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[Louella Dougans]

if an alliance is in FW, it means they can replace their customs offices without having to interact with outside persons.

[orange]

Maybe be either a part of FW or hold 0.0 sov?
Preferably with some possibilities to do some small-scale development of lowsec space for the empires.

I think that would be the best solution.

if an alliance is in FW, it means they can replace their customs offices without having to interact with outside persons.

Outside characters really.  But I think that is a good thing, they should have to interact with someone outside their alliance.

[Desiderya]

@Jade

Harsh is relative. A mechanic can not please everyone, so I don't really see that as a broad issue. The requirement to have some meaningful ways to develop and defend space would be a necessity to make a decision between 0.0 sov and the more open FW easier. Not being able to enter 50% of highsec space is a hinderance but as far as I'm aware meaningful 0.0 sov conflicts aren't decided in highsec.
Needless to say that a lot of things are run by non-alliance alts in highsec anyway.

[Alain Colcer]

I really can't project the effect an alliance would have in FW.

They would certainly be interested in claiming the moons of low-sec, or using the POCO mechanic as passive income...but fighting for occupancy or territory? not sure, unless they have something to gain out of it.

In FW current state, i wouldn't want Alliances to be able to participate.

[Hamish Grayson]

PL, goons etc already camp the FW systems with the most action and already own all the moons.   If anything, this might focus them against one side instead of anything that moves.  Maybe.


Plenty of capital fights and POS bashing on the weekends already too so it won't change much IMO.   

[Silas Vitalia]

It depends if FW is supposed tobe 'pvp light' or not.  If it is then this is a bad idea under current game mechanics.

As was my understanding it was designed to be new player friendly, smaller ships, smaller stakes, and this change would put a quick stop to that.

IF they do some serious tweaking to what is allowed in the FW systems ship-wise then we'll see. Doubtful. A completel cyno-ban and possibly POS removal for all FW systems would make a big difference.

To the comment about having 50% of empire space cut off, it won't effect things in the slightest. Most 00 alliances are self-sufficient in null anyway, and all major trips to empire are done with alts anyway as well. 

[Silas Vitalia]

Additionally, this seemed like less of a Chronicle and more of a RP-Patch notes  

I could however see a whole series of adventures for our hapless Interbus employees. That might be funny

[Graelyn]

What are these RP Alliances people keep talking about?

FW already killed that by forcing those groups out of RP for several years. They have grown and changed a great deal since then. They are not the same entities, and a great majority of their members would now laugh at the prospect.

We will simply see FW become the place that defeated Alliances retreat to when pushed out of nullsec. "Ok, go farm FW missions for a few weeks, then we'll take back what's ours!"

I'm not going to say that's a bad thing, but it's what we will get.

[Arkady Sadik]

What are these RP Alliances people keep talking about?

FW already killed that by forcing those groups out of RP for several years. They have grown and changed a great deal since then. They are not the same entities, and a great majority of their members would now laugh at the prospect.

Hey! :-P

[Graelyn]

Tell me I'm wrong, man! 

[Arnulf Ogunkoya]

Tell me I'm wrong, man! 

You are wrong, man. And this would be blatantly obvious if you spent more than five minutes in our alliance comms. Just ask Yulai Federation about how we take descisions for crazy (from their pov) RP reasons.

[Graelyn]

Oh, you're EM....  , never mind....

That might be the last one, really.

[BloodBird]

Oh, you're EM....  , never mind....

That might be the last one, really.

You have seen CVA. Is is really as watered-down as you seem to indicate?

[Graelyn]

CVA has good people and pilots scattered throughout.

However, Outside of Defensores Fidei (who are hardcore clergy), I could count the RPers in CVA on one hand.

[Arnulf Ogunkoya]

CVA has good people and pilots scattered throughout.

However, Outside of Defensores Fidei (who are hardcore clergy), I could count the RPers in CVA on one hand.

And that's a crying shame. But, perhaps, an inevitable result of direct involvement in 0.0 politics.