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Author Topic: Is Crucible the first Eve expansion with no new PF or 'plot' advancement?  (Read 5280 times)

Akrasjel Lanate

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New plot advancement would be cool, CCP mentioned that there fleet roam was some kind of "test" for something later this year as i remember.
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Rodj Blake

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I don't particularly like it when they release a flurry of news stories on patch day and then ignore the PF until the next expansion.

But it's still better than ignoring the PF during a patch and then ignoring it again afterwards.
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Julianus Soter

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The empires are battling the Sleeper threat? where? >_>
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Re: Topic of progressing the storyline in a big jerk for every expansion then dropping it dead

While I agree it can be unsavory, there are two things that I see being big factors. 'Main' story progression happens as needed by the development team to explain the new shinies they're developing. FacWar as a lowsec boost? Empires go to war \o/, etcetra. Living world style progression, the kind we would prefer, I think doesn't receive any great attention because there is little resource allocation to it. That may change, as the idea is still under the shadow of Aurora I think.

The bigger of the two factors is that living world style progression wouldn't reach all the players in the game. If I hadn't participated in roleplay, and kept to the Nullsec lifestyle instead of leaving it, the entire story arc behind Incursions would've been a mystery. It wouldn't have registered on any of my radar, and frankly I would have seen the sudden return of the Sansha as being a big 'story jerk' anyway.

When you think of plot advancement, you have to decide who you are advancing the plot for. To the Nullsec players, the plot may not appear to advance at all because all the progression happens outside their play area. Consequentially what little value they may have for the storyline is degraded even further, since they are never involved in it, etcetra. The flipside happens for Empire dwellers if the story progresses in Nullsec.

The idea of a whole war in a single down time (Empyrean Age Expansion) can be distasteful, but it is the most suitable way of delivering the story to every player in the game.
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Maybe I have been blinded, but with the introduction of Site One, canonization of CPF Blue and the Fiction Portal on the horizon I think Crucible is making a major step for EVE Prime Fiction. That item descriptions now have links to evelopedia is a great step for a more coherent story setting. We also still do not know what that Forlorn Hope vitoxin research site is about; maybe its delay is forcing the delay of the Crucible trailer?

Oh, and that CCP Dropbear has been reallocated to Iceland might be a let down for him, but will do wonders for the Storyline team (I hope).
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I haven't seen anyone mention this buy Myyona, but Site One will be introduced as an actual location in Eram. Thats pretty good for the story right?
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The whole "Expansions come with a major storyline attachment" is a fairly new thing, actually. Many of the "classic" EVE expansions (RMR, Rev I/II, Trinity) had little if any newsworthy notes encapsulated in them. Incarna didn't have anything either.

Mind you, the "classic" expansions also had the benefit of having news stories constantly being thrown out around them, so having an expansion wasn't seen as an expected point for plot advancement because plot was happening all the time anyhow.
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Dominion was the first for me with no storyline development, if one counts the Kador invasion of Solitude as the storyline development for QR.

Also, I posted this in OOC yesterday but either 1) nobody cared or 2) nobody was paying attention to the channel. But OMG SO EXCITING  :D

http://twitter.com/#!/cloisterphobe

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@EVE_Rhavas Maybe not today w/all that's going on, but aiming for the 1st chron releasing tomorrow #tweetfleet #eveonline
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AND...

Fiction wiki polish done. Launch planned a few days after Crucible, together with the new EVElopedia design.

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Maybe if CCP loved delivering fluff via news stories as much as some of us do, they could lead up to expansions with bits of PF.

Then they could have their cake and eat it too, and just release the actual "war" or whatever on patch day.
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Related:

Just checked on Amazon and Templar One is coming out on the 6th December. I'm guessing we'll have a whole lot of new PF to absorb after.....

I'm trying extremely hard to resist speculation on what we can expect from the Tony G plot ... must.... resist....

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Hey, it's been a while. Maybe he read some chrons?

Have a little hope, eh? The crushing of it is the source of our bittervet powars.
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Hey, it's been a while. Maybe he read some chrons?

Have a little hope, eh? The crushing of it is the source of our bittervet powars.

The Cardinal is correct! I shall sequester myself and pray to Zombie Jamyl for guidance. Via Telepathy.

Couldn't resist.

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Expect nothing; be genuinely surprised when something does come :)
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Akrasjel Lanate

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Eram is was there
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I might have a pre-release copy of Templar One...

And it might be disappointing in terms of PF (at least so far).
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