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Nmaro Makari

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Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« on: 09 Jul 2011, 10:43 »

Some of this is just thinking out loud, and I will freely admit when I dont know what Im talking about.

Basically, I'm hoping the next big expansion will advance the storyline of the 4 empires a bit more than has been the case. Essentially, what was left after the Empyrean Age was a big cliffhangar over the 4 empires, so heres how I would plan it out if I were in that position.

Amarr Empire:
In YC11, eve time, the the Khanid Kingdom was brought closer to the Empire when they were offered a seat on the Privy Council, which they accepted. Their seat is mostly by the newly created post of "Lord Councillor" which is the title given by the Empire to Khanid II. HOWEVER it does not grant him status as a Royal heir, despite being almost equal in privelages on the council to one of the 5 heirs.

So therefore, I would try to develop this angle to the Empire. The general idea for any events in the Eve universe would revolve around:

1) The fact that many Khanid want to return to the Empire
2) The new post of "Lord Councillor" indicates which way the wind is blowing.
3) The Tash-Murkon family. Presumably, they would not be so happy about a challenge to their status as one of the Royal houses?
4) Empress Jamyl Sarum. The idea would be to portray her as playing a shrewd politcal game behind the scenes, with the intention of creating a stronger Empire.

Minmatar Republic: (Admittedly this is my field of interest)
In YC11, the Republic faced a whole new politcal challenge in the wake of a Thukker led invasion of the Empire, and revelations about the Nefantar and Starkmanirs. The challenge was left as an ongoing struggle to re-intergrate the Nefanter and Starkmanir, many of whom went somewhat native under Imperial Rule. Thukker, Nefantar, and Starkmanir are technically part of the Republic but in reality they have an autonomous existence in the Great Wildlands, and are not included in the list of Republic NPC corps.

I belive that any developments would be around this theme of social conflict and attempting to build a Republic of Seven Tribes. Going further, I would consider:
1) Attitude of the Thukkers. Autonomy seems to suit many of them just fine, and they have no intention of becoming part of a quasi-democratic mess, as they percieve it. For them, tribal traditions are enough. Potentially, this could cause a split in the tribe.
2) Social problems which are a byproduct of Nefantar and Starkmanir intergration.
3) Maleatu Shakor. I belive he should be portrayed as an idealist, who is unwilling to compromise in his wish to have a Seven Tribe Republic, but also that he is constrained by circumstance, which agitates him and frustrates the other tribes and his followers.
4) The long awaited Tribal assembly. Will it happen?

After the Empyrean age expansion, the focus for most Matari or Amarr players was basically foreign policy, Tribes and the Slavery issue. So I would just thicken the background to that, and basically these developments would encourge Matari and Amarr aligned players to look inwards as well as outwards.

Gallente and Caldari.
I will admit here that I know too little about the state of either to make an effective judgement. On top of that, Gallente-Caldari problems seem to be much more complex and far less clear cut than they are for the Amarr-Matari thing. I mean, to illustrate this, the Federation has to deal with a State Titan in its home system, and the State has to wrestle with the awkward situation on Caldari Prime. However I would like to see some developments
1) The Intaki. Maybe some activity from the Syndicate?
2) President Roden. Honestly, Roden is pretty much a big, bald enigma at this point. Some development portraying his attitudes might be nice
3) Unrest in the State. Surely not everyone is content with Heth becoming de-facto head of state? Particularly because such a position would have been inconcievable and irreconcilable with Caldari Doctrine a few years ago.
4) More detail on the politcal scene of both sides. For example, what is signifcant about the Supreme Court in the Federation. Or what the development of Executor of the State means for Megacorporations in the State?

CONCORD.
They've had their station blown up, but they still patrol high sec. Some detail and changes regarding CONCORD would be welcome.

A CONCORD capsuleer militia maybe?  :lol:

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Alain Colcer

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Re: Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« Reply #1 on: 09 Jul 2011, 11:30 »

It's good to see you have interest in this topic in particular, cause for many (not just RPers here) the empire storylines are their "context" ingame and they try to place themselves within such enviroment.

Personally i have lost any faith CCP or the people in charge of the universe description and storyline will be able to advance it any further, their work has been put down in priority, and their focus should be more in line with commercial expansions and whatnot......so it leaves little room to actually keep an ongoing tempo on the whole universe that the games portray.
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« Reply #2 on: 09 Jul 2011, 13:09 »

It's good to see you have interest in this topic in particular, cause for many (not just RPers here) the empire storylines are their "context" ingame and they try to place themselves within such enviroment.

Personally i have lost any faith CCP or the people in charge of the universe description and storyline will be able to advance it any further, their work has been put down in priority, and their focus should be more in line with commercial expansions and whatnot......so it leaves little room to actually keep an ongoing tempo on the whole universe that the games portray.

Honestly Im still a little hopeful.

And even then theres probably more than 100 people on these forums alone with near-encyclopedic knowledge of the EVE universe, many of whom are talented fiction writers.

Im hoping that CCP might delegate to the players a little.
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« Reply #3 on: 13 Jul 2011, 06:16 »

Past experience tells me that there will be no major advances to the storyline until an expansion demands it, and then it will all happen in the space of a single day.

Also, the way in which it happens will probably seem mildly ludicrous.
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Re: Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« Reply #4 on: 13 Jul 2011, 07:09 »

Past experience tells me that there will be no major advances to the storyline until an expansion demands it, and then it will all happen in the space of a single day.

Also, the way in which it happens will probably seem mildly ludicrous.

The bitter is strong in this one.

And so is accuracy, I'm afraid. I agre with this assessment of the score - odds that we will be positively surprised are quite low, sadly. Don't mean it could not happen.

As far as story-line changes goes, I'd love to see a 'phase 2' of FW and it's story, after they get to fixing it's issues and ease of exploitation. This will never happen.
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Re: Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« Reply #5 on: 13 Jul 2011, 08:10 »

Past experience tells me that there will be no major advances to the storyline until an expansion demands it, and then it will all happen in the space of a single day.

Also, the way in which it happens will probably seem mildly ludicrous.

Yea, this.
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« Reply #6 on: 13 Jul 2011, 10:19 »

We do need the FW storyline to advance.  It seems faintly crazy, the war has gone on for several years and nobody seems to have 'won' anything.  But yes, I will be pleasantly surprised (amazed) if anything does move. 
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Re: Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« Reply #7 on: 13 Jul 2011, 11:25 »

We do need the FW storyline to advance.  It seems faintly crazy, the war has gone on for several years and nobody seems to have 'won' anything.  But yes, I will be pleasantly surprised (amazed) if anything does move.

Well, apparently the DUST chronicle mentions that there's a system in the Ammatar Mandate that's been under Minmatar occupation for some time, which is kind of  :psyccp: considering that the Mandate isn't a signatory of the Yulai Emergency War Powers Act and thus not a member of the current conflict...
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« Reply #8 on: 13 Jul 2011, 17:22 »

I've just been talking to Verone on MSN about this.

You know, what truly fucking astounds me about :psyccp: is that they bought out White Wolf Publishing, a company that - in my opinion - produces without contest the best-written gaming literature in the RPG genre, and yet they have not tapped into that creative resource. If you pick up any sourcebook in the Mage: The Awakening or Vampire: The Requiem lines, any one of them, there's an opening story on the first ten pages. This story is a fully-fleshed story that will be readable by almost anyone, and will explain all the core concepts of the setting that need to be explained for the story to make sense - and it will do it intuitively, succinctly and without breaking narrative flow. Trust me - you will get more out of reading the first ten pages of Invictus or The Silver Ladder than you will out of reading every book Anne Rice has ever written. We are talking fifty-carat-diamond-in-the-rough here, folks - White Wolf knows their shit.

There was talk of White Wolf adapting EVE IP into a roleplaying game. I can tell you this - if they put Bill Bridges, Ethan Skemp, Matthew McFarland, Conrad Hubbard or a combination of the above on the case, it will rock your fucking world. Personally I would vote Matthew McFarland to replace TonyG as CCP's IP Manager.
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Re: Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« Reply #9 on: 13 Jul 2011, 17:25 »

I figure the White Wolf folks are plenty busy already, judging from their Twitter posts.

And the EVE RPG was cancelled, something I intend to ask about when EVE Vegas rolls around in a few weeks.
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« Reply #10 on: 13 Jul 2011, 17:28 »

And the EVE RPG was cancelled

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Re: Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« Reply #11 on: 14 Jul 2011, 09:16 »

Honestly Im still a little hopeful.

Im hoping that CCP might delegate to the players a little.

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« Reply #12 on: 14 Jul 2011, 09:25 »

This thread made me think of this post from the "predictions for 113" thread.



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Ghost Hunter: Several billion miles, Master.
Kuvakei: That's gotta be a record.

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Kuvakei misses the ball
Kuvakei: In the middle of MY INVASION?!

Honestly, nothing concrete - some tying up of loose ends that have been left lying about, at least - the Hilen Tukoss/Arek'jaalan storyline seems to be promising in this regard.
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Re: Storyline Predictions and Hopes
« Reply #13 on: 14 Jul 2011, 09:56 »

Honestly, nothing concrete - some tying up of loose ends that have been left lying about, at least - the Hilen Tukoss/Arek'jaalan storyline seems to be promising in this regard.

That channel is possibly the most interactive I've ever seen an actor be with the general masses, though I suppose the sansh actors were, but that was with a more limited group - specifically, the sansha roleplayers.

With the Arek'jaalalalalalaaala channel, we've got direct access to an actor that can answer questions and send out mails with projects based on player suggestions. Props to him for putting up with the sometimes absurd mess that results when you put so many people in one channel, and props to anyone that can keep paying attention when it gets dragged off topic so horribly.
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« Reply #14 on: 14 Jul 2011, 19:04 »

He actually wants to talk to Andreus about his... condition... in a private one-on-one chat. Never seen an actor do that before.
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