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[Saxon Hawke]

Hi, my name is Saxon and I'm a metagamer.

Actually, I try to keep my metagaming to a minimum, but I have several "partners in crime" and from time to time we hash out some things to give some structure and context to our role playing.

I see it more as defining the playing field and filling in some gaps in PF so that the role play can take place.

Case in Point: Seri, Damar and I were having some really good RP going and then things started to reach an impasse due to differing interpretations of existing PF and a general lack of relevant PF to begin with.

Seri and I stepped out of character for a moment, discussed the PF, kicked around some ideas and agreed to bring a third party to come up with a compromise of sorts so we could get back to the fun.

So I guess that makes me a metagamer. But truth be told, since I started metagaming and stopped waiting for CCP to answer all my questions I've enjoyed my EVE RP much more.

[Kemekk]

Hi, my name is Saxon and I'm a metagamer.

Actually, I try to keep my metagaming to a minimum, but I have several "partners in crime" and from time to time we hash out some things to give some structure and context to our role playing.

I see it more as defining the playing field and filling in some gaps in PF so that the role play can take place.

Case in Point: Seri, Damar and I were having some really good RP going and then things started to reach an impasse due to differing interpretations of existing PF and a general lack of relevant PF to begin with.

Seri and I stepped out of character for a moment, discussed the PF, kicked around some ideas and agreed to bring a third party to come up with a compromise of sorts so we could get back to the fun.

So I guess that makes me a metagamer. But truth be told, since I started metagaming and stopped waiting for CCP to answer all my questions I've enjoyed my EVE RP much more.

I personally don't define that as metagaming. RP is like writing to me, and it's hard to write about something when you have no background knowledge of it, so I find OOC discussions like that appropriate.

[Victoria Stecker]

Hi, my name is Saxon and I'm a metagamer.

Actually, I try to keep my metagaming to a minimum, but I have several "partners in crime" and from time to time we hash out some things to give some structure and context to our role playing.

I see it more as defining the playing field and filling in some gaps in PF so that the role play can take place.

Case in Point: Seri, Damar and I were having some really good RP going and then things started to reach an impasse due to differing interpretations of existing PF and a general lack of relevant PF to begin with.

Seri and I stepped out of character for a moment, discussed the PF, kicked around some ideas and agreed to bring a third party to come up with a compromise of sorts so we could get back to the fun.

So I guess that makes me a metagamer. But truth be told, since I started metagaming and stopped waiting for CCP to answer all my questions I've enjoyed my EVE RP much more.

I personally don't define that as metagaming. RP is like writing to me, and it's hard to write about something when you have no background knowledge of it, so I find OOC discussions like that appropriate.

It still counts as metagaming, but in this case, due to the lack of a set-in-stone background or PF base and in the absence of a DM to say 'this is how it is', it's the sort of metagaming that is necessary and actually enhances RP that might otherwise fall apart.

[Ciarente]

I've often discussed questions of background and interpretation of PF OOC - I agree it can be very necessary for everyone to enjoy the RP.

To go back to the OP, I assume that most if not all pilots have access to their NEOCOM data whether in pod or not, either through space-iPhone or an implant.

As for encountering situations that may not be metagaming in the Eve context, you'll probably get more useful answers with more specifics, phrased as a hypothetical if you aren't comfortable discussing the precise incidents.

[Tamur]

It still counts as metagaming, but in this case, due to the lack of a set-in-stone background or PF base and in the absence of a DM to say 'this is how it is', it's the sort of metagaming that is necessary and actually enhances RP that might otherwise fall apart.

This 100%. In my opinion, when there are OOC issues between the players, metagaming makes much more sense than avoiding interactions altogether or trying to keep the discussion IC. The first option is detrimental to the community and leaves the questions unaddressed, and the latter method just often seems to make things more unclear, as long as one doesn't break character.

[Andreus Ixiris]

Not that I'm in a position to cause any significant damage by metagaming (right now ), but I will, in any circumstance presented to me, categorically refuse to abandon any game-legal advantage at my disposal if it gives me an edge over an opponent. I would not expect my enemies to do any different.

A well-respected gentleman and veteran of EVE once told me that there are two types of battles in EVE - the honourable ones, and the ones you win.

[BloodBird]

Not that I'm in a position to cause any significant damage by metagaming (right now ), but I will, in any circumstance presented to me, categorically refuse to abandon any game-legal advantage at my disposal if it gives me an edge over an opponent. I would not expect my enemies to do any different.

A well-respected gentleman and veteran of EVE once told me that there are two types of battles in EVE - the honourable ones, and the ones you win.

During most of my EVE-time, those two have been very much one and the same.

Then again, my definition of honor might be somewhat different than then one used by others.

I'm guessing more than one toon under one's control constitute meta-gaming to most here.

Ergo; Hi, my name is BloodBird, and I'm a meta-gamer as well.

[Chowda]

Case in Point: Seri, Damar and I were having some really good RP going and then things started to reach an impasse due to differing interpretations of existing PF and a general lack of relevant PF to begin with.

Seri and I stepped out of character for a moment, discussed the PF, kicked around some ideas and agreed to bring a third party to come up with a compromise of sorts so we could get back to the fun.

From my understanding, this is not necessarily metagaming.  Going OOC to come up with an understanding of what "is" is fine.

Metagaming to me, or at least the major crime of it, is your character having knowledge of things they could not possibly know in the game world.  A classic EVE case would be knowledge of The Broker or knowing Tibus Heth has a serious disease.

The small bit of metagaming I see in this community is when characters of all backgrounds, roles, and places in the universe  flock to an area because there is an opportunity to roleplay.  It's completely understandable, but at times worthy of eye-rolling.

[Kemekk]

From my understanding, this is not necessarily metagaming.  Going OOC to come up with an understanding of what "is" is fine.

Metagaming to me, or at least the major crime of it, is your character having knowledge of things they could not possibly know in the game world.  A classic EVE case would be knowledge of The Broker or knowing Tibus Heth has a serious disease.

The small bit of metagaming I see in this community is when characters of all backgrounds, roles, and places in the universe  flock to an area because there is an opportunity to roleplay.  It's completely understandable, but at times worthy of eye-rolling.

I agree with both points.

[Sinjin Mokk]

Agreed, that the "show info" stuff are things a pilot can find out about another pretty quickly.

Though if you've only just met them, you should take a second to "/me looks at a datapad; hold a hand to his ear; turns to his drone for a second; etc.

One daner is blogs. I keep a note on mine that any knowledge found therin is OOC knowledge and I think this is true for many of the ones I regularly read. I haven't had more than one instance of someone mentioning stuff that was only on the blog, but the other player was cool about it and we did a few second's "rewind' in our conversation. So if you have a blog, plase make a not somewhere what parts are IC and what parts are OOC.

 

[Lyn Farel]

From my understanding, this is not necessarily metagaming.  Going OOC to come up with an understanding of what "is" is fine.

Metagaming to me, or at least the major crime of it, is your character having knowledge of things they could not possibly know in the game world.  A classic EVE case would be knowledge of The Broker or knowing Tibus Heth has a serious disease.

The small bit of metagaming I see in this community is when characters of all backgrounds, roles, and places in the universe  flock to an area because there is an opportunity to roleplay.  It's completely understandable, but at times worthy of eye-rolling.

I agree with both points.

I agree too. Though with extreme moderation with the second point. Does not annoy me when the characters in question are all but politically oriented (more like the average being living his life you find here and there). Which is often the case.