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[Invelious]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/10/12/pol-amnesty-canada-bush-arrest.html

[Helen Ohmiras]

 

[Mizhara]

If they actually arrest him, I will pop a bottle of champagne. It'll be a greater day in history than the killing of Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein put together. The greatest terrorist leader the world has ever seen, arrested in Canada of all places.

[Crucifire]

Haha, him and Clinton will be in Surrey, and even I stayed out of that place when I lived in Van.

But what an amazing headline that would make.

[Invelious]

They put in a request for Bush's buddy, Donald, when he was coming to talk about his book in Alberta, but im pretty sure Donny got away. Especially sincem,  and im almost certain, that Alberta is willing to become part of the US as is.

[Lyn Farel]

I approve.

A little accountability kthxbai.

Note : my president should be arrested too.

[DA5UN]

They, or a group similar, called on the same thing when Dick Cheney came for a visit.

Didn't make the news so I assume there was no actual arrest in that case.

[Graelyn]

Because Amnesty International is a group that gets things done.

*snerk*

[Z.Sinraali]

AI does get things done. Just not in big flashy ways like say, arresting former presidents. But their research and public pressure campaigns do matter in the world.

[Seriphyn]

Amnesty International is far better than making facepalm-inducing statements like that.

[Mizhara]

I don't count it particularly facepalm inducing. It's never going to happen, of course. There's no accountability for your actions once you get past a certain social and financial strata, after all. However, as a reminder of these facts, this kind of message is extraordinarily effective. It reminds people that there's horrific crimes being committed even in the highest levels of society and also that the system is horrendously broken as accountability becomes a concept that's practically laughed at.

"It can't be a crime if the President does it." is a quote I enjoyed immensely in Transmetropolitan. The distinguishing features between the two primary antagonists being that only one of them was joking when he said it.

Bush may never be held accountable for his crimes, Seriphyn... but there's nothing facepalm inducing about remembering that he did commit those crimes.

[Seriphyn]

True, Mizhara, I think that too but...I feel there are other ways to bring attention to that.

[orange]

...any act by which severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person for such purposes as obtaining from him, or a third person, information or a confession, punishing him for an act he or a third person has committed or is suspected of having committed, or intimidating or coercing him or a third person, or for any reason based on discrimination of any kind, when such pain or suffering is inflicted by or at the instigation of or with the consent or acquiescence of a public official or other person acting in an official capacity. It does not include pain or suffering arising only from, inherent in, or incidental to, lawful sanctions.

That is a broad definition!  It can potentially include all manner of actions and leaves open what the definition of severe is.  Is breaking a finger severe?  How about keeping a detainee up for the same length of time as the guards?

Also, what is a "lawful sanction?"

I think the definition is sufficiently broad that most political leaders or their subordinates serving in an agency which conducts interrogation could potentially be caught under it.

[Akrasjel Lanate]

If they actually arrest him, I will pop a bottle of champagne. It'll be a greater day in history than the "killing" of Bin Laden and Saddam Hussein put together. The greatest terrorist leader the world has ever seen, arrested in Canada of all places.

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It would be cool, but i fear Canada don't have the balls to do that really.

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