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[19:52:48] Ghost Hunter > angel actors are spotted
[19:53:08] Ghost Hunter > garsk agalder and adwa hurren
Apparently they were in Amarr itself, talking in local in cryptic text. I don't have any of the logs, but much people flipping out to me.
SO HOW ABOUT THEM ANGELS?
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OMGOMGOMGOMG
Garsk Agalder > ---ning compl---drawin---stem.
Adwa Hurren > ----nfirmed.
Both Dominations.
*Does happy little fangirl dance*
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iiiiiiinteresting
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WTB Commentary from live event actors if they've fixed the 'CONCORD Police can instagibb our supercarriers at the slightest mean look we give them'.
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I found Garsk Agalder for you
From: Ansbivand Boe
Sent: 2011.05.23 20:09
The sleazebag Awesome Dude is currently in the Amarr system, Throne Worlds constellation of the Domain region.
With regards,
Ansbivand Boe.
I found Adwa Hurren for you
From: Chaiga Sumy
Sent: 2011.05.23 20:13
The sleazebag Cute Chick is currently at Amarr VIII (Oris) - Emperor Family Academy station in the Amarr system, Throne Worlds constellation of Domain region.
with regards,
Chaiga Sumy
One in space one in station, both logged out unfortunately.
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OMGOMGOMGOMG
(More coherent reply may follow in the future.)
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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
Giggles, squees............... *does a happy dance*
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Not the only new NPCs to appear lately...
Here's hoping there's something exciting in the pipe.
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Cool...
Angels hmm...
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Not the only new NPCs to appear lately...
Curious remark.
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Not the only new NPCs to appear lately...
Curious remark.
Yeah Ken, you're gonna need to elaborate upon that.
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>.>
<.<
All science is applied. Eventually.
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Not the only new NPCs to appear lately...
Here's hoping there's something exciting in the pipe.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1515757 ?
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Hm, if this is going to be more magical-hax of the empires, then perhaps it'll tie into the ending of the sansha arc
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Hm, if this is going to be more magical-hax of the empires, then perhaps it'll tie into the ending of the sansha arc
They mentioned about going into the Sansha epilogue to tie up that story arc. There were also mentions of looking at changing the Incursion faction around.
If speculation is to pan out, it'll probably be the downfall of the Sansha as someone else takes up the galactic mantle of hurp durp Incursions.
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Urf, can we get something more interesting than massive NPC swarm attacking with an ensemble cast of cryptic/enigmatic bullshit? And can we get something for all the factions to prevent massive bandwagoning onto one?
/me breathes
But I expect to be proven wrong.
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Urf, can we get something more interesting than massive NPC swarm attacking with an ensemble cast of cryptic/enigmatic bullshit? And can we get something for all the factions to prevent massive bandwagoning onto one?
/me breathes
But I expect to be proven wrong.
Here's to hoping.
ALSO
Amarr NPC Actors confirmed, two of them are apparently lost in W-space.
Deten Bouras
Chana Arech
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OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG
SQUEEEEEE!!!!!!
/me takes a breath.
Interested to see where this goes. Hopefully there will be more than just one faction represented.
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Oops.
:bear: (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1509048)
Also, Seriphyn... things haven't really been that cryptic, but there has been concerted effort from certain individuals in the RP community to make it seem like there's a lot of cryptic b.s. going on.
The evil demon is a thought experiment into the idea of a grand deceiver. Some entity capable of keeping you inside a fake world, akin to the idea in the film The Matrix. Descartes used it to invoke a sense of scepticism, to make the point that disproving such an idea is no easy task, and that if it is true, then there is really very little we can be sure of. This is why he comes out with the famous "I think therefore I am" line. That's all he can be sure of if there is indeed, an evil demon deceiving him about everything else.
There's an intentional correlation with that idea and a similar one outlined by Ior Labron, but Lebron takes it a step further. He asks, what if the evil demon one day dropped the charade. Labron essentially argues that if you knew this entity had the power to reveal the truth, to liberate you from your prison, then you should surely question their intent, and be wary in considering them a liberator. The idea is a simple one, being; if they have the power to tear down the world of lies you have been living in, then surely they had a had in its creation too.
:twisted:
Sometimes, answers can be staring you in the face (http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1515757&page=1#2), and the only way to see them is to step back and look at the big picture.
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It was heavily hinted at fanfest that the next Live Event arc would be much more concerning w-space. Something along the lines of one guy on the live event panel saying that the events and lore wouldn't be so open, but rather more "apocryphal" and the other guy going "I see what you did there, eh? Eh?"
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Hm, if this is going to be more magical-hax of the empires, then perhaps it'll tie into the ending of the sansha arc
They mentioned about going into the Sansha epilogue to tie up that story arc. There were also mentions of looking at changing the Incursion faction around.
If speculation is to pan out, it'll probably be the downfall of the Sansha as someone else takes up the galactic mantle of hurp durp Incursions.
I'd heard a similar rumor, however from what I've seen in mission text and the limited PF on the Cartel... Full scale invasions like the ones the Sansha are using doesn't fit their Modus Operandi, well at least on the same scale. Honestly, the Sansha are the only ones I could picture taking the invasion aspect as large as they are. Serps don't have the firepower/fleet sizes, the Gurista are too tactically minded to spread themselves that thin, the Blooders would have little to gain aside from blood/chaos, Mordus is a merc force, and the Syndicate is mostly businessmen that aren't welcomed in the Federation because they like to deal in shady things....
EoM is feasible, but I can't picture them having the resources available for the same scale of attacks.
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I could see the blooders doing incursions, but yeah, Cartel incursions would make me go >_<
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If they're exactly the same as current incursions (maybe with new ships), then that would suck.
If they're doing an entirely new series of live events, complete with all the sandbox RP that went on last year, then that would rule.
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If they had the Blooders attacking The Bleak Lands trying to 'reclaim' their space from old times... that would be pretty cool to see.
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That would throw an interesting wrinkle into FW.
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Hm, if this is going to be more magical-hax of the empires, then perhaps it'll tie into the ending of the sansha arc
They mentioned about going into the Sansha epilogue to tie up that story arc. There were also mentions of looking at changing the Incursion faction around.
If speculation is to pan out, it'll probably be the downfall of the Sansha as someone else takes up the galactic mantle of hurp durp Incursions.
I'd heard a similar rumor, however from what I've seen in mission text and the limited PF on the Cartel... Full scale invasions like the ones the Sansha are using doesn't fit their Modus Operandi, well at least on the same scale. Honestly, the Sansha are the only ones I could picture taking the invasion aspect as large as they are. Serps don't have the firepower/fleet sizes, the Gurista are too tactically minded to spread themselves that thin, the Blooders would have little to gain aside from blood/chaos, Mordus is a merc force, and the Syndicate is mostly businessmen that aren't welcomed in the Federation because they like to deal in shady things....
EoM is feasible, but I can't picture them having the resources available for the same scale of attacks.
Truly intergalactic attacks would fit perfectly in only ever being the Sansha's M.O. Rogue Drones is another possibility, if not better since they're machines.
It'd be interesting if they had smaller, storyline instigated incursions, I think. The Blooders invading the Bleaklands is a good example. The Angels invading the Skarkon constellation to truly take it over would be another. Serpentis have a thing going with Intaki, last I checked. Guristas just love ruining the State's day, etc.
In that way, everyone gets their own slice of the pie and some due attention with the Incursion system.
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Garsk Agalder > ---ning compl---drawin---stem.
Adwa Hurren > ----nfirmed.
Hello, victims!
A new story-arc would be great, but I'm silently hoping (and expecting to be let down, mind you) they will use the chance to tie up old treads from arcs they have not touched.
For instance, if more pirate factions get involved, I'd love to see the EoM being revealed publicly as the perpetrators behind that titan frying the Intaki colony, and such.
They could use the chance to tie up lots of stuff, from when AURORA was around too.
This holds much possible promise. But basically, I will love just gunning these two down, if nothing else.
*EDIT* Horrible typos. Dead now.
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EoM is feasible, but I can't picture them having the resources available for the same scale of attacks.
I believe someone at CCP said that EoM were going to be the Incursion faction originally, and then someone planted a True into the meetings who then made a suggestion about Sansha. :P
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I think it will definitely be Angels, in fact, I found the following sign outside my place of employment yesterday...
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I think it will definitely be Angels, in fact, I found the following sign outside my place of employment yesterday...
explain
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Confirmed so far ICly that it was two Amarr and two Angels. All of them very powerful and all VIPs.
A wormhole in the Amarr home-system? Scary indeed.
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* starts pondering wich side hes gonne join this time around then flips a coin *
Evil or not to be Evil.. that is the question... oh wait.. nevermind i'm allready quite evil...
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Today's Dust514.com quote is particularly interesting when juxtaposed with these mini-events:
"I KEEP TELLING THEM! I SAW AN ENTIRE BLOODY GOLDEN FLEET HEADING FOR THAT WORMHOLE, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO LISTEN."
- JERONUS VIE, CAPSULEER
Perhaps the empires have found something worthy of such effort pre-Dust launch? Perhaps the technology that will soon™ make immortal soldiers possible?
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Today's Dust514.com quote is particularly interesting when juxtaposed with these mini-events:
"I KEEP TELLING THEM! I SAW AN ENTIRE BLOODY GOLDEN FLEET HEADING FOR THAT WORMHOLE, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO LISTEN."
- JERONUS VIE, CAPSULEER
Perhaps the empires have found something worthy of such effort pre-Dust launch? Perhaps the technology that will soon™ make immortal soldiers possible?
Well, these recent events certainly give weight to Nikiruu's theories.
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I really doubt the angels will open wormholes and steal thousands of people, if you ask me, whatever their agenda is it will not follow the same trend as the sansha incursions.
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Today's Dust514.com quote is particularly interesting when juxtaposed with these mini-events:
"I KEEP TELLING THEM! I SAW AN ENTIRE BLOODY GOLDEN FLEET HEADING FOR THAT WORMHOLE, BUT NO ONE WANTS TO LISTEN."
- JERONUS VIE, CAPSULEER
Perhaps the empires have found something worthy of such effort pre-Dust launch? Perhaps the technology that will soon™ make immortal soldiers possible?
Consider the novel Templar One's preview bits indicate the Amarr have played with soldier cloning technology in the past, I am speculative.
However, the nature of the wormhole itself is worth considering - No wormhole that occurs leading to W-space naturally has enough mass to hold an entire Golden Fleet. Ergo, something else made it.
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However, the nature of the wormhole itself is worth considering - No wormhole that occurs leading to W-space naturally has enough mass to hold an entire Golden Fleet. Ergo, something else made it.
With a wink and a nod, I concur.
There's only two factions with the manpower and single-minded focus to develop the technology, and the reasoning to use it: The Amarr and Sansha. There's also one faction that could fill in any missing pieces, and they apparently have two operatives in Amarr space right now: The Cartel. Put it all together, and you have a slowly evolving, and fully logical and well thought-out storyline. It's finding all the relevant pieces, and building a coherent picture that's difficult.
So, we have been given the answers; the proverbial "42" in the form of chronicles, and novels. All that's left is figuring out what the questions were, and why (most) capsuleers are oblivious to them.
For instance, how do you keep parity with demigods? It's not by having better ground soldiers. CONCORD has the answer, but the Empires can't influence them. It's actually rather intriguing if you can follow the line of reasoning, and the fact that wormhole tech provides a great reasoning behind gathering Sleeper databases and AI tech.
I'm also pretty sure that those who have the mind to see the entire picture would understand the necessity of keeping up the illusion; once you see past the curtain, do you really want to ruin the surprise for the rest of Oz?
-Nikiruu was here- :bear:
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However, the nature of the wormhole itself is worth considering - No wormhole that occurs leading to W-space naturally has enough mass to hold an entire Golden Fleet. Ergo, something else made it.
In this context, the witness said the word "entire" as more or less a relative adjective. A wormhole leading to C6 can transport quite a lot of ships, probably thousands of subcaps, for instance.
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Well the highest-mass budget wormhole is B041 with five billion kg's. That would be sufficient for about 49 or so Abaddons. . .which would be good enough for 'OMG GOLDEN FLEET' observation.
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I've been considering the potential for the various factions (empire and non-empire) having access to wormhole tech.
The group with the least combat use, but the absolute best practical use would be the Serps. Instant and relatively secure delivery of product whereever they need it, no more running customs officers.
The big four would probably all use it to help "win the war" (maybe, for the love of all things holy, progress the FW story). Guristas are likely to use it to make raiding easier/more varied, same with the Archangels. The Dominations... well, a command/intel corp with the ability to go anywhere anytime, 'nuf said. Blooders would have the ability to diversify their blood stock. Not sure what Syndicate would use it for, but they do dabble in black market trading.
I'm just thinking if they all got the w-hole generator tech, which I'm hoping doesn't happen but we'll see.
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Wouldn't that really be an incremental improvement over cyno generators?
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Not sure what Syndicate would use it for, but they do dabble in black market trading.
Possibly some shifty plan with the SOE (http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=19-04-10)?
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Wouldn't that really be an incremental improvement over cyno generators?
In that they don't require a Cyno at destination, and system wide Cyno-Jammers don't stop them, and they allow massive fleets through rather than single ships at a time.... So basically, Jump Portal Generator on steroids; and theoretically unlimited range (based on Sansha Incursions).
/me should quit speculating... Or I'll sound like one of the people who spend too much time looking here (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_14L8x3vQuvc/S55VDJlj_7I/AAAAAAAAABQ/ng9YX9YRFGY/s400/crystalball.JPG).
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Wouldn't that really be an incremental improvement over cyno generators?
In that they don't require a Cyno at destination, and system wide Cyno-Jammers don't stop them, and they allow massive fleets through rather than single ships at a time.... So basically, Jump Portal Generator on steroids; and theoretically unlimited range (based on Sansha Incursions).
/me should quit speculating... Or I'll sound like one of the people who spend too much time looking here (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_14L8x3vQuvc/S55VDJlj_7I/AAAAAAAAABQ/ng9YX9YRFGY/s400/crystalball.JPG).
* Has an epiphany, suddenly becomes more conductive to following the flow of the story rather than angsting about possibilities.
I had become the thing I hated.
[spoiler]But have I hated the thing I've become?[spoiler](http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/2918/1306468869539.jpg)[/spoiler][/spoiler]
Also, worth noting: Jump Drives in backstory can, apparently, lock onto stars and jump to them without a cynosural. Not pin point accurate, but as this is not represented through in-game mechanics, I wonder if they still retain that ability in fiction?
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The Federation seems to hold the strongest interest in wormhole tech, at the very least from the Gallente doomsday being reverse engineered Sleeper tech. FOR SCIENCE!
Though how much theyll ground it in past chronicles is anyone's guess.
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The Federation seems to hold the strongest interest in wormhole tech, at the very least from the Gallente doomsday being reverse engineered Sleeper tech. FOR SCIENCE!
Though how much theyll ground it in past chronicles is anyone's guess.
All the DDs are reverse engineered sleeper tech Seri. And actually, its the amarr that breaks the mold. They're the exception to the rule, and therefore, have the most vested interest.
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I must have missed that. Where does it say the other doomsdays are Sleeper? The Aurora ominae is in its desc
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Oh...so they don't. I was fairly sure they all mentioned the sleepers.
innnnnteresting.
Nikiruu is right about the Amarr being the lynchpin in all this though. Look at a list of the corporations buying sleeper 'tags.' ♪ ♫ one of the these things is not like the others ♪ ♫
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Nikiruu
She is obviously a weather balloon. (http://dresdencodak.com/2011/04/19/dark-science-09/)
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http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=1996.0
The DUST 514 novel, Templar One is out soon, and it is "backed by cross promotion".
Therefore, these "event actors" are probably part of a promotional scheme for the Templar One book, and for DUST 514 itself.
The characters may make an appearance in the book.
The book probably details how the Amarr become the first to deploy the DUST technology, and the source of it (wormhole-doodadery).
Not optimistic of there being much to interact with, regarding these actors. The book is already written, as it releases within 6 months or so.
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http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=2185.msg31824#msg31824
I wholeheartedly agree Louella.
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Oh I see how it is. Angels are the cooler side of the pillow, huh, CCP?
Fuckin' socialist fascist scientologist apiculturists...
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Oh I see how it is. Angels are the cooler side of the pillow, huh, CCP?
Fuckin' socialist fascist scientologist apiculturists...
(http://randomoverload.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/eecc15a312u-mad.jpg.jpg)
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As a matter of fact I am! Good day, sir! >:I
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I guess I don't understand the issue, Senn?
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Senn is a Serp. He feels unloved.
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But Serps are, like, the Angels' little brothers, right?
/me runs
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They're our security, dammit! We're supposed to function as a TEAM, otherwise, we're gonna have to kill each other, and everyone KNOWS I hate killing people I like. D:
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They're our security, dammit! We're supposed to function as a TEAM, otherwise, we're gonna have to kill each other, and everyone KNOWS I hate killing people I like. D:
Who says that they aren't functioning as part of a team? :bear: Remember, the payload is the message. :yar:
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Wait, you're upset because the allies of your character's faction are getting some attention? From where I'm sitting, that sounds awesome.
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Everyone's got their pet faction that they want to see get some exposure. I'd say its a win for everybody when they do anything to develop the game world, but maybe that's just me. :eek:
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I thought the Serps were the name of the Angels janitorial corp? Or the uncool kids who get invited to the party cus they have the drug hook ups? <runs>
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Well, allies is a weird word. Really there's been not a lot of interaction, at least not since the early days when the two carved out a niche. I guess the Angels are doing their own thing and the Serps are biding their time in Syndicate.
Still, I suppose if the Angels get some attention, maybe we'll get a chance to fight together against the powers of oppression. Oppression of our ability to conduct illegal activities.
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Well, allies is a weird word. Really there's been not a lot of interaction, at least not since the early days when the two carved out a niche. I guess the Angels are doing their own thing and the Serps are biding their time in Syndicate.
Still, I suppose if the Angels get some attention, maybe we'll get a chance to fight together against the powers of oppression. Oppression of our ability to conduct illegal activities.
But oppressing your ability to pestle drugs around and conduct other illegal activities is FUN, damn it :evil:
So is murdering you all and your pets, but that's another matter entierly.
On a less joking manner, I think we would all enjoy more NPC faction exposure, and more activety - not only would it make the game-world more 'alive' but give us all chances to do what we want with whatever factions we like (and don't like).
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Well, allies is a weird word.
I'd liken them to 'business partners' with a close relationship.
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So is murdering you all and your pets, but that's another matter entierly.
You can't murder Senn, I like him!
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To be honest, if criminal organizations are doing things that everyone can see, covert things at that, they would most likely find themselves with a serious credibility issue with their own clients.
The Serpentis, in my view, would be happy to continue their back alley wheeling and dealing and let the Cartel handle the more obviously shady situations. Besides, didn't you hear? There's a rumor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJfiQ43Adsg&feature=channel_video_title) that they had a hand in influencing the Gallente elections.
:twisted:
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I think you misunderstand the word "covert" when it comes to the underground.
There's the "covert" things we do in broad daylight, so people know we do spooky, covert things that they don't know about.
There's the actual covert things that we can't tell you about.
And there's the Covert things that we don't know our leaders do, or want us to do, or are guiding us to do.
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"covert" != "clandestine"
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http://thesaurus.com/browse/covert
I disagree.
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In actual usage they have different shades of meaning which a thesaurus isn't intended to convey. Per NATO/USDOD (http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/dod_dictionary/) (see: "clandestine operation"), for example:
An operation sponsored or conducted by governmental departments or agencies in such a way as to assure secrecy or concealment. A clandestine operation differs from a covert operation in that emphasis is placed on concealment of the operation rather than on concealment of the identity of the sponsor. In special operations, an activity may be both covert and clandestine and may focus equally on operational considerations and intelligence-related activities.
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Shades of meaning, I'll give you that much. But the point remains the same, there's always something going on, and its always on a need-to-know basis. But, as you pointed out before, if the Angels are up to something fun, it might be good news for the Serps too.
Or bad. Or, maybe they won't tell us. Or maybe they'll tell us a lie.
Or, maybe they're planning Sarpati's surprise birthday party and we're not a'sposed to tell anybody 'cause-...
Dammit. =_=
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...because whenever he learns about his surprise birthday party, he shows up naked and embarrasses everyone?
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...because whenever he learns about his surprise birthday party, he shows up naked and embarrasses everyone?
Again, we'd question it, but he'd either kill us or make fun of us for not recognizing the hidden genius of his plan.
See Z, there's known unknowns, and there's unknown unknowns. That's things we don't know that we don't know.
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Holy crap, I look away and this thing reaches five pages. Skimmed it fast, didn't see anything, but is there anyone who's gotten any more info regarding this? I've gotten no responses. Starting to swear at this rate it was some devious plot to get me to actively play again instead of OOG problems dragging me into hiatus because I preferred to sulk instead of HTFU and handle EVE like a boss as escapism method. Ignore if that just didn't make sense. But yeah, updates, anyone?
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http://thesaurus.com/browse/covert
I disagree.
Thesaurus lists words with similar meanings, not necessarily identical :roll:
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http://thesaurus.com/browse/covert
I disagree.
Thesaurus lists words with similar meanings, not necessarily identical :roll:
Thanks, up until now I had no idea what a thesaurus was for. >>
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Ignore if that just didn't make sense.
But I can't. It did make sense.
And now my eyes are bleeding. Damn it!
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Holy crap, I look away and this thing reaches five pages. Skimmed it fast, didn't see anything, but is there anyone who's gotten any more info regarding this? I've gotten no responses. Starting to swear at this rate it was some devious plot to get me to actively play again instead of OOG problems dragging me into hiatus because I preferred to sulk instead of HTFU and handle EVE like a boss as escapism method. Ignore if that just didn't make sense. But yeah, updates, anyone?
Nope. I'm steadily finding myself in more agreement with Lou's "cross promotion" theory, much as I hate to give in to that kind of acceptance.
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Nope. I'm steadily finding myself in more agreement with Lou's "cross promotion" theory, much as I hate to give in to that kind of acceptance.
CCP Headfirst confirming the "less overt" (read: "covert") events playing out:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1512726&page=1#15
Dust 514 quotes mentioning event actors from recent events:
http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=2185.0
I'd say that the cross promotion is in full swing.
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Aha, lovely, thanks!
Sorry Vieve, I'd have thought you of all people could handle some insanity, haha :P
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Aha, lovely, thanks!
Sorry Vieve, I'd have thought you of all people could handle some insanity, haha :P
Insanity has a killer stacking penalty. :P
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Sansha event in Hebisa.
Slave Heavenbound02 showed up with a Revenant, durped around, and some things happened. Dorgiers was apparently there. Couldn't go myself since it was high sec lol
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Meanwhile in Amarr:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1107/Sleepers.png (http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1107/Sleepers.png)
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Meanwhile in Amarr:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1107/Sleepers.png (http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1107/Sleepers.png)
That pic has actually been around for a while. I seem to remember it being posted in one of the DUST threads a while back.
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It was on ccpgames.com's page for Dust 514 for a long time, iirc.
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Now that I see that pic again, I find it like a total artistic disaster. No coherence between the Amarr background and the setting. Does not fit at all together (in similarities or in contrast).
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maybe that's because it's not amarrian technology? Visual cues are important in art.
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That's precisely my point. If they wanted to create a contrast, well, I find it disastrous.
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So my question is, how do you show contrast other than. . .there being a contrast? A stark one perhaps indicates the curious juxtaposition of Amarrian faith and spirituality vs. the advent of a new cyber-warrior cloning facility.
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Hard to explain. :/
I would say both parts of the image do not fit together. Color wise especially, and add to that there is no visual transition (short and sharp or soft, whatever, there is none here) at all between both worlds. It could be 2 images with one in overlay over the other one. For me there is no coherence, be it in contrast or not.