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[Silas Vitalia]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-10-20-heres-gameplay-of-project-nova-the-eve-online-first-person-shooter

Hey that's a spiffy trailer! That sounds like it could be a pretty cool game....I'd love to go fight some Sansha in a neato narrative or co-op game with today's tech and engine and Eve's great storyline potential!

Hey look it's 20 minutes of.... capturing control points on a generic map with little numbers bouncing off the enemies.

Good god, that looks bad even for a previous-gen game. What in the ever-living......like...even the most boring modern gameplay shooters still look amazing and tons of eye candy and 'oooh wow' moments, what the shit is this.

[kalaratiri]

It is a pre-Alpha. It's barely a game right now, they're just showing off that they have a mostly functioning engine.

[Silas Vitalia]

It is a pre-Alpha. It's barely a game right now, they're just showing off that they have a mostly functioning engine.

cmonnnnnnnn don't kid yourself

It's ok to admit it looks bad

[kalaratiri]

I didn't say it looked good. It's clearly unfinished.

[Mizhara]

... wow that was awful. Did... did they forget it's supposed to be on PC now? They are allowed to have things move as if it's not submerged in treacle. Someone let them know you can have actual fps movement and combat in fps games these days.

[kalaratiri]

Actually I'm wondering if that's from an even earlier version than what's being currently demo'd at Vegas. The Vegas demo had much faster pacing, dynamic movement (sliding across the floor etc) and looks much more exciting. I'll try and find a vod.

[kalaratiri]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/324798459

Starts at 01:07:30 (actual working gameplay from 01:14:50)

Looks like a totally different game to that official footage. There's so much more actual movement to the movement 

[Mizhara]

Yeah that's way better.

... granted, it still looks like a cheap Destiny knock-off with less awesome in it, and I managed to stick with Destiny 2 for a whole week before getting really bored by it, but hey. I'm slightly less leery of this now than I was five minutes ago.

[kalaratiri]

They've been talking about possible Dark Souls style drop-in PvP where you can take the role of a Sansha Boss.

Again, it's literally pre-alpha. You can't compare it to a finished game, because it isn't.

[Aradina]

Is there literally anything that you aren't salty about?

Slow pacing in an FPS, oh the horror.

[Mizhara]

They've been talking about possible Dark Souls style drop-in PvP where you can take the role of a Sansha Boss.

Again, it's literally pre-alpha. You can't compare it to a finished game, because it isn't.

Listen, if they release this particular preview of the game in its current state, then that is what'll be viewed, considered and judged. Of course they may change things later on and if they do then the judgments and considerations will change accordingly but I think it's a bit ridiculous to expect people to withhold judgment on what is being offered by the devs at this time. This is what we've got to consider and look at, and thus that is what'll be commented on and judged. It's not rocket surgery.

Is there literally anything that you aren't salty about?

Slow pacing in an FPS, oh the horror.

Is there any criticism you won't whine about? Someone didn't like shitty console FPS gameplay, the horror.

[kalaratiri]

Judgement is fine, "This is worse than destiny" is dumb.

[Morwen Lagann]

I clicked this thread, read it, and was immediately reminded of the Star Citizen thread, only with the roles reversed in terms of who's posting what.

[Mizhara]

Judgement is fine, "This is worse than destiny" is dumb.

This looks worse than Destiny 2, based on what we've been offered so far.

[Silas Vitalia]

This will be the best-looking FPS of 2010.

But anyway no need for everyone to get their backs up, let's just be realistic about if it looks crappy and if they've learned anything from Dust.  I'm leaning towards no.   It's not going to stray from the class-based drop-in capture the point gameplay, even with a few graphics and gameplay passes.   

I just feel like CCP trying to compete in areas they can't compete in- it's a crowded field with big money backers and they are not going to stand out.   

Why not just license an engine and do some smaller budget off-genre things that are maybe cheap to produce and might give good return for investment? Story based squad shooter like Republic Commando? Turn-based tactical? Narrative adventure game? Who knows?