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Worldbuilding: Fan Clubs!
Aria Jenneth:
So, trying to do Sojourn: Federation posts is being a little hard. Aria's going to be shifting focus from general statements to specific explorations, and one bit that we've never developed much is something that's likely to be ... uh, pretty widespread in the Federation.
It's pretty well-established, if not very well fleshed-out, canon that capsuleers are celebrities. At a guess, capsuleers in general have both fans and anti-fans, who watch developments with avid interest. There are probably newsletters, focus articles, and so on. The tabloids probably have all sorts of fun-- much of it made up, as it seems likely that being "capsuleer-specialized paparazzi" is a singularly dangerous job.
More generally, it seems likely that most capsuleers have at least a small individual following, while well-known ones probably have a larger, possibly much larger one.
I can think of two ways to do this, and actually I'd like to try merging them. Firstly, each of us probably has some idea of what we'd want and/or expect in a fan base-- so, a brief description of size, makeup, etc., for your own seems appropriate.
However, no one gets to pick their fans, so input on other people's fan bases is also accepted-- but, this being a game, the player whose character is under discussion has veto power. We can start separate threads for different characters if it takes off.
Ideally, I'd like to see any given post address two characters: typically, one's own, and someone else's.
Sound good? I'll start.
Aria:
She's little, she's cute, she's curious, she's publicly visible, she has an exotic background, and she's an amnesiac-- of course Aria has a fan club ... which is probably kind of a problem.
I think most capsuleer fan clubs would be concentrated in the Federation, and Aria's would be no exception. Being formally an enemy (PY-RE, etc.) might slow things down a little, but she's apolitical enough that she's likely not seen too much as an "enemy capsuleer." Generally, club members might be those with an interest in intercultural exploration, alternative (especially Achur) spirituality, and so on. Serious club members might mirror her penchant for wearing black. She probably attracts either bookish/intellectual sorts or people who admire intellectuals ... in one way or another.
And, there begins the bit Aria would probably find mortifying. If I say "fanfic" ... yeah.
Mostly, the issues this would create would be subtle. Embarrassing doujinshi aside, as with many capsuleers, she likely has some trouble escaping attention if moving in heavily-populated areas.
A possibly more dangerous issue is that she's not the only edition of herself. Her old self was also quite visible, but would have attracted a much darker following-- posthuman-cultists, etc.. Aria's fairly publicly declared her intention to undo the "damage" her prior self did; her old self's club may not appreciate that.
Pieter Tuulinen:
I think Pieter's fan club would (obviously) be concentrated in the Caldari State, but he likely has a following in the Federation as well. (A bit like Irwin Rommel-- an unambiguous enemy who nevertheless commands respect.) Federal attention might not quite rise to the level of "fan club," but more keenly interested observers with the occasional straight-up admirer.
Someone has inevitably "shipped" him with Andreus Ixiris. Probably several someones.
Lyn Farel:
Alright, that's a good idea... However, I'm pretty poor at tabloid representation, I think..
Lyn:
She probably has shifted a lot between her early days as a pro-active capsuleer trying to fit in every faction she came in, taking model, and rapidly growing as a CONCORD enforcer, albeit in her own way. I suppose fans could have seen her as an alternative to the rigid and corrupted form CONCORD could at times wear, while anti-fans would have seen her just like them as a puppet. It has also to be taken in the pre-TEA context when we were still in the aftermath of Doriam and Heideran, and that what she did was a lot more expected than today (meaning, building bridges between opponents, and routing out unlawfulness).
Now though, I would expect that her fanbase to have shrunk a lot. She is mostly inactive in space bare a few minimum things, and her delusions on capsuleer duties, while probably fitting with a lot of baseliners, also combine with a perpetual indecisiveness always prey to doubt and too much objectivity for the sake of objectivity. Since most fanbases are driven by emotion, I don't see her attracting a lot of people, even less than in the past when she was mostly quiet in her shadows. For those she does though, she might be a quiet figure in a lot of scholarly places as well as posthumans that don't hold traditional faction in very high esteem.
But mostly, I would expect that her loss of capsuleer fame (if she had any in the first place, but at least she was active) means that she is not very much considered by fans unless it's in more embarrassing fictions and kinks, especially since she might draw the dandere trope around (because of Shrinking Violet).
I would expect her to mostly draw ire from most of the imperial masses in the Empire, while probably having a certain attraction in unconventional educated circles, and especially scientific venues where traditional beliefs are probably often eschewed in favor of something different.
I suppose that most of her interventions since TEA have probably also made her a target for the average caldari masses, but maybe that her good relationship with I-RED actually bears different results in liberal circles.
For the gallente, she probably have a lot more fans since she spent half her upbringing here. Probably in two different ways: the few fans that love cultural exchange, especially when it's exotic, and the embarrassing ones that love exotic for exotic sake.
As for the minmatar, they probably hate her for most of them due to her being Ammatar by birth, for that not many of them probably know of her admiration for Midular.
Luna:
I think Luna probably has many fans in the Amarr Empire and is probably the role model of all the young amarrian ladies and children. "I want to be like Lunarisse Daphiti when i'm a grown up!"
She might also have inspired a lot of cheesy romance / cloaks and daggers / political B-series, especially in the Federation, about amarrian Holder politics. As well as probably having been shipped with Aldrith Shutaq, the other Amarrian role model Aldrith Shutaq, especially now that he has been made Holder by Aritcio.
Aria Jenneth:
--- Quote from: Lyn Farel on 15 Nov 2015, 05:05 ---Luna:
I think Luna probably has many fans in the Amarr Empire and is probably the role model of all the young amarrian ladies and children. "I want to be like Lunarisse Daphiti when i'm a grown up!"
She might also have inspired a lot of cheesy romance / cloaks and daggers / political B-series, especially in the Federation, about amarrian Holder politics. As well as probably having been shipped with Aldrith Shutaq, the other Amarrian role model Aldrith Shutaq, especially now that he has been made Holder by Aritcio.
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But he's married-- to an admiral, no less! If their love were ever discovered....
Heeehehehehee. Yeah, the Federation would be all over that. So might a fair few Amarr. People are people, and people are pervs. Especially those who aren't supposed to be. Actually, being as the Amarr outlaw pornography generally, the stuff that is there probably makes a bodice-ripping extramarital romance look pretty tame by comparison.
Hrm. There's a question: lurid romance novels and the like (laden with "good bits") are a traditional method of circumventing societal norms forbidding straight-up smut. The Amarr are moralistic and prudish, but do you suppose the MIO, etc., might choose to overlook the content of such things? If so, the majority of "fanfic" in this area might even be Amarrian-- albeit probably written under a pen name, for safety's sake.
Does that seem likely to you?
--- Quote from: Lyn Farel on 15 Nov 2015, 05:05 ---Lyn:
She probably has shifted a lot between her early days as a pro-active capsuleer trying to fit in every faction she came in, taking model, and rapidly growing as a CONCORD enforcer, albeit in her own way. I suppose fans could have seen her as an alternative to the rigid and corrupted form CONCORD could at times wear, while anti-fans would have seen her just like them as a puppet. It has also to be taken in the pre-TEA context when we were still in the aftermath of Doriam and Heideran, and that what she did was a lot more expected than today (meaning, building bridges between opponents, and routing out unlawfulness).
Now though, I would expect that her fanbase to have shrunk a lot. She is mostly inactive in space bare a few minimum things, and her delusions on capsuleer duties, while probably fitting with a lot of baseliners, also combine with a perpetual indecisiveness always prey to doubt and too much objectivity for the sake of objectivity. Since most fanbases are driven by emotion, I don't see her attracting a lot of people, even less than in the past when she was mostly quiet in her shadows. For those she does though, she might be a quiet figure in a lot of scholarly places as well as posthumans that don't hold traditional faction in very high esteem.
But mostly, I would expect that her loss of capsuleer fame (if she had any in the first place, but at least she was active) means that she is not very much considered by fans unless it's in more embarrassing fictions and kinks, especially since she might draw the dandere trope around (because of Shrinking Violet).
I would expect her to mostly draw ire from most of the imperial masses in the Empire, while probably having a certain attraction in unconventional educated circles, and especially scientific venues where traditional beliefs are probably often eschewed in favor of something different.
I suppose that most of her interventions since TEA have probably also made her a target for the average caldari masses, but maybe that her good relationship with I-RED actually bears different results in liberal circles.
For the gallente, she probably have a lot more fans since she spent half her upbringing here. Probably in two different ways: the few fans that love cultural exchange, especially when it's exotic, and the embarrassing ones that love exotic for exotic sake.
As for the minmatar, they probably hate her for most of them due to her being Ammatar by birth, for that not many of them probably know of her admiration for Midular.
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Hrm. You're likely right about the ebb and flow of the thing. Lyn comes off as profoundly frustrated by multiple persistent aspects of the world, and frustration isn't especially inspiring.
Considering her vocally unorthodox take on the Amarrian faith, there may even be calls for her (and even SFRIM generally) to be investigated for heresy. But, yeah, I could see her views being intriguing to certain of the more reformist students, etc.. That same fierce independent-mindedness may act as a partial antidote to the dandere/Shrinking Violet tropes.
Lyn Farel:
Oh yes, that sure seems likely, even without pen names for the author... I would expect Amarrian censorship not to bother and smile/grin at that kind of things as long as it remains harmless, especially with a comedy value, or a lurid side.
I mean in our own history, we had plenty of more or less scandalous works that got a lot of success with more daring things breaking the norms and limits, or being outright shocking, as long as it remains in a non political tone... I'm not even sure the Amarr are that much into heavy handed censorship to begin with...
I would expect them to frown heavily upon pleb novels and other works though. You know, much like people praised the usual works of Shakespeare and what was considered to be of good taste and paramount to the 'best', while frowning a lot on pieces like Figaro that were, after all, written with a more laid-back, vulgar approach, and so outright labelled as "for the uneducated plebs".
Which didn't prevent the aristocracy to go watch the play and have a lot of fun.
Or, like every musical piece that wasn't german/austrian/italian was considered of low caliber and vulgar too. I would expect foreign stuff to often fall in that category in the Amarr Empire.
Velarra:
Over the course of the past year I've been sporadically adding flesh to Vel in her DED profile via post modifications. Further I'm not that prone to sharing Vel's IC life too much in OOC environments. Equally i tend toward a balance between the extremes of Grim Dark & Sesame Street in how i see Eve / tend to play things out. Yet fan clubs? Personal IC PR & Consequences? There's thought.
Vel:
Well, in recent years she's spent an awful lot of time in logistics ships or battleships when taking vessels into counter Sansha operations. While her kill report record is hardly stellar, with many more losses than capsuleer ship kills, on average her crews typically survive their tours. Those who've been lost or medically incapacitated have received generous retirement packages, funeral services, end of life insurance coverage payouts to family/next of kin, and personally handwritten letters of condolence. Even if the unavoidable time required to do so for the several battleship crews might have been excessive.
Velarra doesn't generally go out of her way to play the stage be it on the summit or other venues for its own sake and that i suppose would lead her into being viewed through the lens of some of the trope territory suggested earlier by Lyn.
Aside from counter Sansha operations, she's been somewhat off the pop-culture radar i would suppose. There really are so many other much more flamboyant and publicly active Capsuleers to love or loathe. At worst there was a story that she spent a night partying with a popular local rock band, while on Sortet IV. The story made the local Sortet IV tabloid rounds a bit, yet ultimately nothing ever really came of it beyond the fact that someone vaguely fitting her description was poorly photographed in the same hotel the band was staying at and having a rather wild party into the early hours of the morning. Velarra's Federation based publicist eventually released a small location specific statement on Sortet IV denying Velarra's presence at the hotel suggesting it was all simply a matter of the band seeking attention through association.
Outside of empire space, within purely baseline circles she certainly has been forward at a personal level about engaging with Curses' civilian populations. In particular she has focused on linking her Capsuleer reputation, and ties to the Angels with her overseeing the development and awareness of social, health and educational services/institutions for the betterment of the baseline populations in the region. Whether it has been via providing vaccination programs or other health services, made known of via numerous local media sources, new school openings, and related employment opportunities, she has certainly focused on playing the role of a socially acceptable Angel within less militant circles.
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Morwen:
I'm going to suggest that there are likely those who look quite favorably upon Morwen for her past humanitarian relief efforts, as well as organizational talents of a scientific sort. In particular involvement with AJ, and even Syne if one's a fan who appreciates the sciences and the good Capsuleers can be responsible for when disasters occur.
I would imagine these things would be tempered by her earlier history of piracy and acute martial prowess.
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I'm really the sort who tends to fade into the RP scene and then slip away losing track of who's involved in what or RPing which story arc. As a result i'm a little out of the loop of everyone's characters and respective histories to fairly select someone to develop a fanbase for. Here's hoping the above is respectfully decent.
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