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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #1 on: 29 May 2015, 12:23 »

I've always preferred "Jameel" over "Jamal", but whatevs.

Also, dat gurl has totes gone bat shit craycray giving entities which go against one of the core Amarrian beliefs of not having clones super leet shield technology.

Furthermore, this move to try and recruit as many capsuleers over to the Empire's side lends some interesting support when you account the whole Jamyl being possessed by a space demon thingy trying to protect itself.
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #2 on: 29 May 2015, 12:31 »

Is her space demon working with the drifters, or trying to protect itself from them?
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #3 on: 29 May 2015, 12:31 »

Perfect piece of news ICly, will definitely help me further my agendas.
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« Reply #4 on: 29 May 2015, 12:34 »

Perfect piece of news ICly, will definitely help me further my agendas.

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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #5 on: 29 May 2015, 12:46 »

I guess I am weak on this part of the Lore, but how is it a treaty violation?
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #6 on: 29 May 2015, 14:12 »

CONCORD directives indicating all new technology must be shared among the four empires.

I'm of mixed feelings on this. On the one hand, it's nice to see lore pieces relating to new technologies being released again; on the other, I'm also sort of feelig this exemplifies the "enforced stupidity" of NPC factions that we've come to see recently - which I've made no secret that I find to be an incredibly painful aspect of CCP's new plotlines.
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #7 on: 29 May 2015, 14:27 »

If she released it to all capsuleers, doesn't that, by definition, mean the empires all get access to it too?

Something isn't confidential once it's placed into general circulation...
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #8 on: 29 May 2015, 14:27 »

I guess I am weak on this part of the Lore, but how is it a treaty violation?

Because only CONCORD (and probably stations and stuff unshootable in space) were authorized to use it as far as I understand it. It was developed by Lai Dai and the Amarr in a joint effort too.

Jamyl breaks two treaties : the one with CONCORD, and the one with Lai Dai, which was probably not consulted either.
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #9 on: 29 May 2015, 14:29 »

Perfect piece of news ICly, will definitely help me further my agendas.

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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #10 on: 29 May 2015, 15:00 »

Ientities which go against one of the core Amarrian beliefs of not having clones

It's one of the big myths that there is such a belief amongst the Amarr:
There isn't.

I guess I am weak on this part of the Lore, but how is it a treaty violation?

Because only CONCORD (and probably stations and stuff unshootable in space) were authorized to use it as far as I understand it. It was developed by Lai Dai and the Amarr in a joint effort too.

Jamyl breaks two treaties : the one with CONCORD, and the one with Lai Dai, which was probably not consulted either.

That seems to be the implication. It's why I have to agree with Esna on the 'forced stupidity' part. I guess it will be used as a starting point for cooling relations between State and Empire and the eventual, already announceafaik, breaking up of the 2 vs 2 structure in favour of a 'free for all' one.
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #11 on: 29 May 2015, 15:23 »

Ientities which go against one of the core Amarrian beliefs of not having clones

It's one of the big myths that there is such a belief amongst the Amarr:
There isn't.

Except there is such a belief. It's not a myth. What it is though is a belief that has two sides.


With regard to the actual development, I'm a bit annoyed as I can no longer claim that Amarr always upholds its treaties. Thanks Jamyl. This is certainly going to lower Sami's opinion of her quite a bit.
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #12 on: 29 May 2015, 16:25 »

Ientities which go against one of the core Amarrian beliefs of not having clones

It's one of the big myths that there is such a belief amongst the Amarr:
There isn't.

Except there is such a belief. It's not a myth. What it is though is a belief that has two sides.

There is not such a belief, no: There is no core Amarrian belief that clones are not to be had.
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #13 on: 29 May 2015, 16:25 »

[accidental doublepost]
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Re: Erry Day Jamyl Trollin DED
« Reply #14 on: 29 May 2015, 16:42 »

Ientities which go against one of the core Amarrian beliefs of not having clones

It's one of the big myths that there is such a belief amongst the Amarr:
There isn't.

Except there is such a belief. It's not a myth. What it is though is a belief that has two sides.

There is not such a belief, no: There is no core Amarrian belief that clones are not to be had.

What do you define as a core belief? Directly prohibited in the Scripture? Then no, there isn't, except for royalty. But there is certainly enough of an opposition to it that it is mentioned multiple times in PF that many Amarr are opposed to it out of belief that it denies the soul.
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