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Mizhara

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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #45 on: 03 Nov 2014, 10:12 »

It'll make webbing friendlies into warp a bit of a pain.
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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #46 on: 03 Nov 2014, 10:36 »

I'd made a suggestion that some people seemed to like on Twitter but ofc it's obviously too late to really make a difference ingame for tomorrow:
- Freely allow intra-corp aggression (as it is now)
- Apply penalties (sec hits, concordokken, whatever) on destruction of a corpmate's ship, IF the Limited Engagement timer between the two corpmates was caused by aggression from one corpmate to the other. (That is, when you aggress someone you are given a Limited Engagement with them. If this happens, a kill results in a penalty.)
- However, if those two corpmates had a Limited Engagement with each other prior to the initial aggression (ie, a duel), then any ship (or pod) destructions that occur subsequently between those two players for the duration of the Limited Engagement go unpunished/sanctioned.

There's a few holes in it, like what happens if two corpmates are just screwing around w/o a duel and one accidentally destroys the other (a "forgiveness" mechanic would be useful here - give the 'victim' 24-48h to reverse the penalty applied to the other person), or if a third party comes along and blaps one of them, etc.

In the end, I guess, the issue is a question of how to balance the risk, and CCP has decided that the simplest method is to just prevent direct-consequence AWOXing wholesale. Which I guess is fine in some ways (though I think it excessive) but for non-hostile aggression between corpmates there's always the duel thing. And it totally fucks RVB up the ass, which is definitely not cool. :\

Miz: use a duel. I've had to do that (hauler alt is not in Morwen's corp and hasn't been for ages), it works and is annoying, but it still is better than nothing.
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Mizhara

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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #47 on: 03 Nov 2014, 10:44 »

I keep forgetting duels exist now. Thanks.
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Esna Pitoojee

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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #48 on: 03 Nov 2014, 10:46 »

It also makes intra-corp tournaments a fair bit harder to set up.

Back in KOTMC we had a really fun frigate free-for-all involving dozens of frigates spit out of an orca for people to hop into and start shooting.

If we were doing that now, we would have one of two options:
- Everyone duels everyone else, and we pray nobody forgot any connections.
- We all go suspect by yanking from a can or something, although this requires finding an out-of-the-way system to do it in where we know we won't be scanned down and blapped by someone looking for easy kills.

Even then, there's the possibility we might end up wrecking our faction standings, depending on how that loss works.
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Lunarisse Aspenstar

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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #49 on: 03 Nov 2014, 11:06 »

The consensus - which I agree with - seems to be that sending it straight to CONCORD is a bad idea. Giving someone who shoots a corp member suspect would seem like a better way to balance out the need for protection against the need for flexibility.

On a superficial level the CSM idea had some appeal but then more I thought about it the worse and worse it sounds in practice.  ILAW usually has a fun corporation tournament every year including a free for all.  I'd go with marking suspect (with no standings/sec status loss) if something *had* to be done, but (wearing my director hat here) just making it easier to kick people should be sufficient (and aren't they doing that?)
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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #50 on: 03 Nov 2014, 11:23 »

Would that proposed thunderdome PvP deployable structure solve some of these issues?
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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #51 on: 03 Nov 2014, 11:44 »

Would that proposed thunderdome PvP deployable structure solve some of these issues?
Sure.

If it ever makes it off of Duality and onto TQ.
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1) The number of capsuleer women who are bisexual is greater than the number who are lesbian.
2) Most of the former group appear lesbian due to a lack of suitable male partners to go around.
3) The lack of suitable male partners can be summed up in most cases thusly: interested, worth the air they breathe, available; pick two.

Lunarisse Aspenstar

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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #52 on: 03 Nov 2014, 15:41 »

On the corp pvp, one interesting suggestion I saw was in the main forums:

"Make being able to engage corpies a global on/off option, within the corp, for a specific member or role. Then the corp could use it as needed for pvp practice or internal discipline etc ..."
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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #53 on: 04 Nov 2014, 14:25 »

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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #54 on: 04 Nov 2014, 14:28 »

The fuck did I just read
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Re: CSM minutes
« Reply #55 on: 04 Nov 2014, 15:39 »

The fuck did I just read

Sex.

Also, your boxers are missing.
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