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Hi to all, my name is PV.

I had worked on some pages and would love the hear some feedback. What ever is in your mind. Like: Typos, spelling errors, if a picture or chart doesnt work (in that case plz tell me also the browser. As for example Firefox as some issues), etc... You can log in to the wiki and rework anything you like (I havent log any of my pages) or post it here in the forum. I will try to come here from time to time.

I would also happy for any "food for thoughts", anything, anything as Im almost out of insperation :D. I will try then to work it into the page/pages. Or just let me know, what you havent like: Categories, overall look of the page, evelopedia links (to few or to many), etc...

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Edit: Khanid Zealots/Kingdom Zealots ...
Some more infos and backround music :P http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=5681.msg93251#msg93251
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Re: Khanid Kingdom fanfiction and other shenanigans
« Reply #1 on: 29 Jan 2014, 01:35 »

Speaking of Khanid PF, I've always fancied how a Khanid city would look like. I reckon it would be akin to styles of Amarr cities, but the contrasting schemes would be black structures with blue lighting... come to think of it, that sounds so badass. I wish I could live in a Khanid city. :<
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Re: Khanid Kingdom fanfiction and other shenanigans
« Reply #2 on: 29 Jan 2014, 17:47 »

Speaking of Khanid PF, I've always fancied how a Khanid city would look like. I reckon it would be akin to styles of Amarr cities, but the contrasting schemes would be black structures with blue lighting... come to think of it, that sounds so badass. I wish I could live in a Khanid city. :<

He me too. :D I would love to live in Khanid city.

As you said, Amarr curves put in a Khanid ("dark-grey-metal"-silver plus black bottom") coat. As for the upper-class and the  I though a interior something in the style of Mass Effect 3: Citadel DLC. Where a color full cyberpunk meets a lofty and roomy minimalism (with strong woodcolors or white colors, as contrast to the dark outside). I would think, that the contrast/conflict in the khanid cites is: exterior vs. interior. Where the outside is dark and gets just brighten by artificial light and the inside is actually nice bright and clear. For the upper-class we have the exterior with alot of lights and the lower class are more Bladerunner-ish (meaning less color full, just two -- blue and green -- light colors fight the darkness). Meaning both have artificial light but the upper-class = colorfull cyberpunk, lower class = a cyberpunk with minimalistic color pattern (noir-ish).

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The imperial cities give a traveler the feeling of a grand and majestic empire; this is in the Kingdom not the case. Most of the Khanid cities are relatively rundown and dangerous on the lower and under levels, as well as filthy, polluted, and infested with crime everywhere. The problems had grown, as most recent immigration waves flooded into the cities; and overpopulated a already dense urban areas. Additionally, the Kingdom's megalopolis are most of the time restricted on the surface they can use, but not in the height. In those cities, with their bottomless towers, a new subculture emerged: Dark Khanid.

Which was based on the term Dark Amarr; and the cities lower levels has become the home of this subculture. Those might have been ones nice at one point in time. Classic, even. But now they are filled with prostitution, crash ultra, neon tube lighting, cheap virtual entertainment, snuff Tcmcs, HoloVision commercials (flickering from the facades), broken-down furniture, pilles of rubbish and creates containing who-knows-what, as they still vainly trying to be palatial.

Dark Khanid often draws the picture of a subculture that originated speak in opposition to the new world order without social and personal safety (or rather without the familiar religious safety net). In which the city skylines lost their well known (amarrian) curves, and replaced with Khanid (Caldari) building block efficiency. The working poor commoners and disassociated caldaris are usually the losers in this development, who — often unwittingly — live a life away from the big corporations "in the shadow" of society. This urban subculture combines high tech technology with a low life, which is always on the hunt for money.

Thats how I see the aesthetics. About the culture. Upper-class = Khanid nobility, as well as Caldari Enclaves are somehow disconected from the rest. Imagien it like south Manhatten, where both upper-class live in their world WITH THEIR SOCIAL ROLES AND RULES.

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Caldari Enclaves are boroughs in very large city or urban areas, which are mostly populated by Caldari and Khaldari, and with a high standard of living. Although the Caldari Enclaves expatriate population constitute a small minority, they shape more than hundred years the cities and enrich the economic and cultural life of the Kingdom. Some Caldaris living in the Kingdom, were ones sent by their employers — megacorporations — to the Kingdom for few years or in form of short-term working contracts; but decided to stay in the cities. There are mainly well-paid specialists, scientists and managers and their families. There are also regular young Caldaris studying in one of the universities. Some have worked their way up in the corporate ladder; and are now in the distribution[7], mining[8], R&D[9] and security[10] department of some major Khanid companies. Those are currently only Civire and Deteis, as they are by far the largest part of Caldari immigrants. How spectacular some careers may seen, most of them are offsprings of well-paid, well-educated managers. In that respect the upper-class had borrowed many values and traditions of their Khanid business brethren. Some would even go so far to say, that they become 'Business Holders'; supporting economic freedom, monarchism, legalism and military traditions. Their values are often in line with the profit-, practical-, and realpolitical-orientation of many Holders; their living environment on the other hand is very Caldari. Some cynic would even say, that they compensate their lost values ​​by surrounding themselves with Caldari-furniture, -clothes, and other superficial belongings to a point were it becomes a caricature. Others would argue that the Caldari Enclaves aren't a expression of an 'assimilation guilt'; quite the contrary, they are a physical symbol that the profit-motive of the Khaldari upper-class has become a virtue of the Khanid nobility.
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Re: Khanid Kingdom fanfiction and other shenanigans
« Reply #3 on: 30 Jan 2014, 00:34 »

I've played a Khanid commoner (Zealot bloodline) as a very odd specific sort of thing for awhile that doesn't fit what a person would traditional think of as a "zealot". 

This wiki at this hour on this little sleep is deluging me with too much information at the moment, I'll have to read through it later.

Also don't even see Zealots mentioned on first glance, anyway. 

Beautiful bordering on heretical people that we are.

Arista has always come off as a strange Amarr/Caldari hybrid in behavior, which may fit some of what you wrote about the Commoner demographics.




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Re: Khanid Kingdom fanfiction and other shenanigans
« Reply #4 on: 30 Jan 2014, 01:55 »

I've played a Khanid commoner (Zealot bloodline) as a very odd specific sort of thing for awhile that doesn't fit what a person would traditional think of as a "zealot". 

This wiki at this hour on this little sleep is deluging me with too much information at the moment, I'll have to read through it later.

Also don't even see Zealots mentioned on first glance, anyway. 

Beautiful bordering on heretical people that we are.

Arista has always come off as a strange Amarr/Caldari hybrid in behavior, which may fit some of what you wrote about the Commoner demographics.

Yeah sorry, totally forgot the Zealots link. I have try to press the Zeolots in to the political group "Kingdom Zeolots", as for me they arent a demographic diversification like commoners (in my chart, I call it subdivision). But If you find a way for me to include them more, or just stuff what you like to add.... just tell me. Im myself not happy about the small Zeolots arcitle  :(.
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Re: Khanid Kingdom fanfiction and other shenanigans
« Reply #5 on: 30 Jan 2014, 13:48 »

Well they are what they are.  Zealot / Unionist / Cyberknight - one of three subcategories.

Officially there could be a huge diversification within that single subcategory - and realistically should be, as not every Khanid Zealot is a member of the 'cult of Tetramon (either lay person or otherwise - and besides I think someone had pointed out that they may have been annihilated out of the lore anyway, I don't remember atm).

Basically you have space for diversfication from a monotheism that isn't *too* diversified, but possibly at times enough that it could make someone in a Theology Council nervous (if it were in Empire). 

We get into the thoughts of 'religious diversity in Empire' itself at that point, as we ae RPers have decided that, yes, a priest in a huge megacity Basicilica is going to be a little different in how they present thing than one in a backwater planet agrarian compound or something, but at the end of the day, both of those priests would refer to the Empire approved 'flavor of the decade' cliff notes of Scripture Empire/Empress is pulling on at the time.

Then you have this full body of literature in the Kingdom (the full body of the Scriptures gathered by the cult of Tetramon for it's preservation and whatnot, I'm sure there are people who can correct me and explain bits of this better) and as I have taken it, also the comprehension from that same scripture and indeed all of Amarr history (because insightfulness) that the Scriptures are a living document "written daily by living people" who will not know (nor can they) the impact of their words and actions on the future.  I usually play Arista on those lines in how she carries herself - that basically any of the faithful are potentially scripture-quotable for the future. 

Her closest real life comparison is Kahlil Gibran - basically, a religious mystic, which they tend to be misunderstood even today.  "How can you be this but then make up your own stuff?" 

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In my youth I was told that in a certain city every one lived according to the Scriptures.

And I said, "I will seek that city and the blessedness thereof." And it was far. And I made great provision for my journey. And after forty-days I beheld the city and on the forty-first day I entered into it.

And lo! the whole company of the inhabitants had each but a single eye and but one hand. And I was astonished and said to myself, "Shall they of this so holy city have but one eye and one hand?"

Then I saw that they too were astonished, for they were marvelling greatly at my two hands and my two eyes. And as they were speaking together I inquired of them saying, "Is this indeed the Blessed City, where each man lives according to the Scriptures?" And they said, "Yes, this is that city."

"And what," said I, "hath befallen you, and where are your right eyes and your right hands?"

And all the people were moved. And they said, "Come thou and see."

And they took me to the temple in the midst of the city. And in the temple I saw a heap of hands and eyes. All withered. Then said I, "Alas! what conqueror hath committed this cruelty upon you?"

And there went a murmur amongst them. And one of their elders stood forth and said, "This doing is of ourselves. God hath made us conquerors over the evil that was in us."

And he led me to a high altar, and all the people followed. And he showed me above the altar an inscription graven, and I read:

"If thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out and cast it from thee; for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off and cast it from thee; for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell."

Then I understood. And I turned about to all the people and cried, "Hath no man or woman among you two eyes or two hands?"

And they answered me saying, "No, not one. There is none whole save such as are yet too young to read the Scripture and to understand its commandment."

And when we had come out of the temple, I straightway left that Blessed City; for I was not too young, and I could read the scripture.

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I notice you seem to be lumping Zealots in with Unionists in how your'e writing that - and they're not, not really.

I have never fleshed the thought out enough to make any sort of corrections to that, save that there are surely zealots in the Kingdom who do not pupport the Unionists poilitical movements, specifically because it is the Theology Council which would be the doom of them were they re-encapsulated back into the fold of Empire.  That above Gibran parable from 'The Madman' explains it nicely. ;)


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« Reply #6 on: 30 Jan 2014, 14:32 »

This is some nice stuff.

On a side-note, I've still often wondered why the Kingdom sought re-integration with the Empire. In my mind, the Kingdom Holders have enjoyed a lot of freedom and autonomy compared to their Imperial cousins that I thought they'd be loathe to give up. Re-integration with the Empire brings the threat Kingdom Holders be brought into the auspices of the Theology Council and the Emperor etc.

Then again I've always bemoaned the lost opportunity of having the Kingdom look towards the State for protection and sign some defence pacts to become an autonomous overseas Protectorate or something which would have made State-Empire relations interesting to say the least.
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« Reply #7 on: 30 Jan 2014, 15:13 »

I do know a lot of the Kingdom Khanid RPers are unionists.

I only know this because I'm told there are a lot of Kingdom Khanid RPers besides myself and Makkal, but they're unionists.

Odd, I thought.  I'm pretty out there, I don't hide myself as a player, none of them have even contacted me for any reason whatsoever.  But, see -- I'm not a Unionist. 

I see why though - it is difficult from a basic gaming "looking for people to RP with" to find a consistently populated group of people to play with as a Kingdom Khanid on a 'factional' level that is at all relevant to the goings on in the game world unless the confrontation is antagonistic.

I'm reminded of an invitation I recieved once for a tea party IC.  In said invitation, it was plainly stated that loyalists to the Kingdom were not invited (yet oddly the invitations were sent to myself and Makkal).  Okay, it gave the pair of us a chance to RP and be appropriately snarky in the fun stern letter writing Amarrian way which was fun and good arpees, but ultimately it meant we also were not invited to an RP event.  A lot of Kingdom players end up in that sort of jam - they have no one or very few they can really "relate to" in a non confrontational way on a factional level as Kingdomers unless, of course, they're Unionist.  When it literally gets in the way of being able to RP I can imagine it makes some roleplayers change their character's tune so they can at least have some fun talking to people and not feel like an outsider all of the time (which is defined plain as day in Prime Fiction, like I told you Veik the whole bit about breing treated with suspicion).  Kudos for people RPing correctly but againat the same time, these are characters usually that were created without the intent of them being treated as traitors or villans to the extent that it excludes them from RP opportunities.
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Re: Khanid Kingdom fanfiction and other shenanigans
« Reply #8 on: 30 Jan 2014, 15:43 »

Well they are what they are.  Zealot / Unionist / Cyberknight - one of three subcategories.

Officially there could be a huge diversification within that single subcategory - and realistically should be, as not every Khanid Zealot is a member of the 'cult of Tetramon (either lay person or otherwise - and besides I think someone had pointed out that they may have been annihilated out of the lore anyway, I don't remember atm).



I have done what? Ehm in my book I havent: "Khanid Zealot is a member of the 'cult of Tetramon (either lay person or otherwise - and besides I think someone had pointed out that they may have been annihilated out of the lore anyway, I don't remember atm" I hope I havent something totally moronic, because it sounds like a huge error  :(. But were have I done it, I mean which page do you mean?


Well they are what they are.  Zealot / Unionist / Cyberknight - one of three subcategories.
Basically you have space for diversfication from a monotheism that isn't *too* diversified, but possibly at times enough that it could make someone in a Theology Council nervous (if it were in Empire). 
"diversfication from a monotheism"?
I notice you seem to be lumping Zealots in with Unionists in how your'e writing that - and they're not, not really.
? It is a catercory system, and as I explained in a page above the large cleavage are not Zealost vs Unionists. It is Zealots vs Corporatists or in other words... spirituality vs reality or lets say religion vs money grapping. :D I hope I have understand you? Or was the critque about something else about the categories of political groups? As Im not a native englisch speaker thats why it is harder for me to understand what you want me to change. :(

I think it would be better if you write down, what you want me to do, and where the zealots stand in comparsion to others. Are they like one of "corporate factions in the state" aka a bloc of government politics or do you see it more as Demographic-thingy?

I love your Ideas, but sadly as for now, I actually dont know where should I put all the new Ideas and input. :(
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« Reply #9 on: 30 Jan 2014, 15:49 »

This is some nice stuff.

On a side-note, I've still often wondered why the Kingdom sought re-integration with the Empire. In my mind, the Kingdom Holders have enjoyed a lot of freedom and autonomy compared to their Imperial cousins that I thought they'd be loathe to give up. Re-integration with the Empire brings the threat Kingdom Holders be brought into the auspices of the Theology Council and the Emperor etc.

Then again I've always bemoaned the lost opportunity of having the Kingdom look towards the State for protection and sign some defence pacts to become an autonomous overseas Protectorate or something which would have made State-Empire relations interesting to say the least.

Thats is actually not the case (or as I see it. For me the Kingdom is independent).... ehm has Eterne still not change his page. If so... I think is time for to send another hate mail to those people  :D.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/index.php?title=Publius_Valerius_%28Character%29&oldid=170067

Edit: I see Abraxes has change some stuff.... but Eterne stills likes to play games.... that he can have  :P. By the way, can some pump one of the CCP guys to change this white-power stuff (from ISD CKang aka CCP Eterne), to as I said a pragmatic "power-fantasy". Im 100% sure that some people in CCP ignore anything I say, just for the sack of...... I would even made a save bet that CCP Eterne would rather kill himself before changing one of "his" pages to one of my complains.

So I would love, if someone else could point the finger to this. So that I have read less "arrrggg" as I meantion here:  https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2373830#post2373830

"I cant highlight this point enough. As I really dont try to get to modern and really try to get modern (last centrey) ideologies out if the way. Otherwise you will very fast find players which dont see the current war as a continuance fight against a rebellion and its offspring the Republic; they will very fast see it as a fight against the minmatar race. So one of my main goals is to dont give a reader the feeling that those groups conflict around modern cleavages. And if people start with that (miss using), you will very fast find post which arent well-thought-out, which could to very nasty conlucions."

And I cant highlight "very nasty conlucions" enough. The best example would be the slavery discussion on this forum. Which was so much derp. I dont think that those people are racist, they just dont know what their comments meant in the end. But that can be easly avoided.

In general, I think: Racism and social darwinism are way to modern clevages for the Empire and Kingdom (they arent sothern slaveholders. We dont need a TonyG-ism 2.0.). Always when I read some white-power amarr RP. it remebers me on Vettes comment in Dromund Kaas (was the slave killing mission), aka SWTOR (to lazy to search for a link. But if someone likes to know what I meant I can search it.).

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« Reply #10 on: 30 Jan 2014, 16:03 »

Sadly either do I, as writing wikis is not my forte ad I haven't done a research paper in years.

Diversification in a monotheism is like the variations of Christianity as a RL example, and if you start to bring in an even larger picture you could even branch of to 'child religions' (same groundwork added resources, completely different explanations for the same statements, etc.)
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« Reply #11 on: 30 Jan 2014, 16:06 »

Sadly either do I, as writing wikis is not my forte ad I haven't done a research paper in years.

Diversification in a monotheism is like the variations of Christianity as a RL example, and if you start to bring in an even larger picture you could even branch of to 'child religions' (same groundwork added resources, completely different explanations for the same statements, etc.)

uff. I think that would be out of my scope too.... as Im not a sociologist or theologist. Writting stuff about politics and economics is way easier for me as I then can just pull stuff out of reality and add it to the space opera which EVE is  :D. For example for me is it easier to add Youth Bulge, then Legalism (theology). Because I dont know much about the latter. But it would be cool if someone could do a "Legealism page about the amarrian faith".

Or in other words to connect Infinite growth with Gunnar Heinsohn is way easier for me.
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« Reply #12 on: 30 Jan 2014, 16:16 »

I'm sure there are people far more qualified than I.  I just spew out half poetic mysticisms in game all the time. ;)
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« Reply #13 on: 30 Jan 2014, 20:48 »

This is some nice stuff.

On a side-note, I've still often wondered why the Kingdom sought re-integration with the Empire. In my mind, the Kingdom Holders have enjoyed a lot of freedom and autonomy compared to their Imperial cousins that I thought they'd be loathe to give up. Re-integration with the Empire brings the threat Kingdom Holders be brought into the auspices of the Theology Council and the Emperor etc.

Then again I've always bemoaned the lost opportunity of having the Kingdom look towards the State for protection and sign some defence pacts to become an autonomous overseas Protectorate or something which would have made State-Empire relations interesting to say the least.

Thats is actually not the case (or as I see it. For me the Kingdom is independent).... ehm has Eterne still not change his page. If so... I think is time for to send another hate mail to those people  :D



I didn't mean the Khanid Kingdom all of a sudden becoming part of the State and becoming Caldari but more just a general desire on my part to see more reason for interaction with the frankly, "Cooler Amarr" that I see the Kingdom is. Imperial Amarr just don't have that sense of style the Kingdom has since Khanid II basically said, "You know what, fuck you Empire, I'm taking this Titan right here and doing what I want. So long, and thanks for all the slaves."
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« Reply #14 on: 30 Jan 2014, 21:35 »

This is some nice stuff.

On a side-note, I've still often wondered why the Kingdom sought re-integration with the Empire. In my mind, the Kingdom Holders have enjoyed a lot of freedom and autonomy compared to their Imperial cousins that I thought they'd be loathe to give up. Re-integration with the Empire brings the threat Kingdom Holders be brought into the auspices of the Theology Council and the Emperor etc.

Then again I've always bemoaned the lost opportunity of having the Kingdom look towards the State for protection and sign some defence pacts to become an autonomous overseas Protectorate or something which would have made State-Empire relations interesting to say the least.

Thats is actually not the case (or as I see it. For me the Kingdom is independent).... ehm has Eterne still not change his page. If so... I think is time for to send another hate mail to those people  :D



I didn't mean the Khanid Kingdom all of a sudden becoming part of the State and becoming Caldari but more just a general desire on my part to see more reason for interaction with the frankly, "Cooler Amarr" that I see the Kingdom is. Imperial Amarr just don't have that sense of style the Kingdom has since Khanid II basically said, "You know what, fuck you Empire, I'm taking this Titan right here and doing what I want. So long, and thanks for all the slaves."

"I didn't mean the Khanid Kingdom all of a sudden becoming part of the State and becoming Caldari" No I dont meant that too :D and I havent read that in our comment, that it would be your wish. :) Nevertheless I think both relations are interessting.

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As for the other side: "Khanid Kingdom all of a sudden becoming part of the Empire" Is for me so mind boggling stupid. It violates laws of nature and the lore. Having two conflicting paradigms ("God's law above man's law"; "Man's law is above God's law") in a above and below arrangement is so fucking mind-blowing retarded... I dont know were to start. And those two folks (Eterne, Caul) by good I never talked to such..... I could give hunderts examples like west berlin having a place in the west german parlament... those f***s wouldnt listen. By the way, I made a post now. Im curious how long my bann will be this time (last time, it was for linking my private mails with Eterne and a forum-bann for calling morons, what they are ... morons.).... Fun Fact: I good longer banned as The Mittani with his Jägerbomb.... I wouldnt be shocked right now If they sack my account soon totally. CCP Dropbaer ones said on this forum.. he dont belive that CCP will "go full retard" with the IP. Sadly, I think thats the case.... I mean what have we and the lore gain with Eternes statement? Nothing. Fucking nothing. Just that now for every Kingdom citzien is the own KING a persona non grata.
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but more just a general desire on my part to see more reason for interaction with the frankly,

That was one of my goals to flesh out more the ideas and ideals of the Kingdom, and to look what have both sides in commen... profit-motive etc.... AND DO THIS BEFORE THE SOURCE BOOK comes out. And that soon, because my vacation is over on monday (most likely I will take a break again. As for me EVE is to time consuming and has to few casual gaming elements. Everything is a journey.
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