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That docked cruisers are held in place with massive clamps on strategic support sections of the ship, and are disengaged with incendiary explosives? (The Burning Life p. 75)

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Syylara/Yaansu

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #30 on: 25 Jul 2012, 10:07 »
Quote from: Reyd Karris on 25 Jul 2012, 09:32
Well, one interesting thing to note: This is the Empire factions meeting to discuss certain technology, and a meeting called by someone compromised by that same technology.

There's a word for this...

Several, actually :9.
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Morwen Lagann

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #31 on: 25 Jul 2012, 10:08 »
Quote from: Syylara/Yaansu on 25 Jul 2012, 10:07
Quote from: Reyd Karris on 25 Jul 2012, 09:32
Well, one interesting thing to note: This is the Empire factions meeting to discuss certain technology, and a meeting called by someone compromised by that same technology.

There's a word for this...

Several, actually :9.

"It may not make sense at first" are the ones that come to mind for me.
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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #32 on: 25 Jul 2012, 15:07 »
Quote from: Gessenier on 24 Jul 2012, 10:59
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Quote from: 514 chron
"We are about to be pulled out of here in the next thirty seconds," said Jamyl Sarum, looking at the only three colleagues she had in the world. "Three of us will be instantly safe. I do not know about you, Dear Executor."
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Hmm.

The response was telling.
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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #33 on: 25 Jul 2012, 21:27 »
Hmm.

What if they didn't get him out in time? :F
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Reyd Karris

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #34 on: 25 Jul 2012, 22:22 »
Quote from: hellgremlin on 25 Jul 2012, 21:27
Hmm.

What if they didn't get him out in time? :F
He's the only one there that isn't a capsuleer, and there's more than one way to evacuate a room quickly. Some are very messy.

Some involve cloning.

;)
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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #35 on: 25 Jul 2012, 22:36 »
Heth can't clone and transfer, remember? Augmene poisoning.
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Morwen's Law:
1) The number of capsuleer women who are bisexual is greater than the number who are lesbian.
2) Most of the former group appear lesbian due to a lack of suitable male partners to go around.
3) The lack of suitable male partners can be summed up in most cases thusly: interested, worth the air they breathe, available; pick two.

Reyd Karris

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #36 on: 25 Jul 2012, 22:44 »
Quote from: Morwen Lagann on 25 Jul 2012, 22:36
Heth can't clone and transfer, remember? Augmene poisoning.
Exactly.

EDIT: Then again, look at the corp page again. Templis Dragonaurs. That's most likely what she's alluding to. The ambiguity of chronicles still irks me.
« Last Edit: 25 Jul 2012, 22:47 by Reyd Karris »
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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #37 on: 26 Jul 2012, 11:20 »
Quote from: hellgremlin on 25 Jul 2012, 21:27
Hmm.

What if they didn't get him out in time? :F

The chron clearly states the room is empty for at least 1 minute before it blows up.
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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #38 on: 27 Jul 2012, 08:06 »
The room is the Broker.
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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #39 on: 27 Jul 2012, 08:28 »
Quote from: Z.Sinraali on 27 Jul 2012, 08:06
The room is the Broker.
So Istvaan is a sentient room?
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Lyn Farel

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #40 on: 27 Jul 2012, 09:35 »
Quote from: orange on 27 Jul 2012, 08:28
Quote from: Z.Sinraali on 27 Jul 2012, 08:06
The room is the Broker.
So Istvaan is a sentient room?

So Istvaan is a blue female alien ?
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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #41 on: 27 Jul 2012, 09:36 »
Quote from: Lyn Farel on 27 Jul 2012, 09:35
Quote from: orange on 27 Jul 2012, 08:28
Quote from: Z.Sinraali on 27 Jul 2012, 08:06
The room is the Broker.
So Istvaan is a sentient room?

So Istvaan is a blue female alien ?

So Istvaan is a Dominion shapeshifter?

Also:

A man can still dream that Heth didn't make it out before the room exploded can't they?
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Reyd Karris

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #42 on: 27 Jul 2012, 10:33 »
Quote from: Z.Sinraali on 27 Jul 2012, 08:06
The room is the Broker.
The Broker is dead. This is clearly stated in Templar One (and thank freakin' God for that) though I am very hesitant to actually say he's dead for good. Lord knows MacGuffins like him and Isogen-5 just don't disappear.

 :D
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Lyn Farel

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #43 on: 27 Jul 2012, 14:04 »
Maybe the broker = the other ?? The THING IN JAMYL'S HEAD !
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Reyd Karris

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Re: [Chron] 514
« Reply #44 on: 27 Jul 2012, 18:57 »
Quote from: Lyn Farel on 27 Jul 2012, 14:04
Maybe the broker = the other ?? The THING IN JAMYL'S HEAD !
It's a possibility. It would explain why it wanted Insorum (*cough*MacGuffin*cough*) so badly. Another explanation is that he just wanted to make a tidy profit, another that he wanted to limit the Other's power by freeing Jamyl from her Vitoc addiction. The most likely scenario is that it is Grious using Jove tech to manipulate the situation, and vastly underestimating his opponents. Another possibility, considering the links to Gallente militarization, is Roden.

Regardless, it's all pointless to debate. The Broker is definitely a MacGuffin. He is who he is, and it's easy enough to cast any number of characters into his role as the situation justifies. His motives have very little to do with conventional logical reasoning, and he represents something that stands in opposition to the old Ishukone CEO's benevolent philosophy. The fear and hate directed at him is poorly explained, there's no real explanation given as to his past with Ishukone, etc. The "old enemy", this green-eyed monster, the one who orchestrated Gariushi's death?  He represents Greed in a literary sense. Same with Roden, the same with Sarum. There's another green-eyed character in Empyrean Age too.  :bear:

The Broker is completely separate from 514 though. The fact is, the lorespinners at CCP are finally putting a carrot at the end of the stick; I want to know more, and there's just enough clues to get me thinking but not enough to ruin the payoff (and it's not completely MacGuffin of the Week scenarios). They are using characters that, in this new context, make sense. These four individuals are the only ones who can change the course of events, and showing their perspective is necessary. Unlike Empyrean Age, using them to move the plot is justified. We now know the major players, their particular stances, and have a general idea of where they will go next in their journey.

Anyways, 514 will be revealed in time, I'm sure. It couldn't possibly be as simple as an organic chemistry reference.

I'm almost 60% sure of it.

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