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[Casiella]

99% of the Fed are just ordinary people.

Occupy Luminaire!

...wait, somebody already tried that.

[Gessenier]

Right, I do believe this has come up in RP multiple times...the Federation's economic system is keeping one planet in a perpetual state of poverty; at the same time, another planet boasts the best living conditions in the cluster, and has a great social safety network even for immigrants.

I think the Federation's economy is definitely two-speed in regards to the fact that the "core" worlds (What I see as mostly the high-security regions of Essence, Sinq Laison and Verge Vendors) are more established as they were colonized early in the expansion drive of the Gallente (And Caldari) from Luminaire. They're home to high-tech industries and high-wage professions that favour the employment of an educated middle-class in the Federation as well as the majority of private sector investments. Disparity arises when less established colonies in the periphery regions like Placid and Solitude cannot compete in the domestic Federal market due to lack of infrastructure, investments and all their talented and educated workers moving to the "Core" where all the potential jobs are. Homeworld systems like Intaki or Mannar are probably the exception due to their historical and cultural significance and the fact they get money pumped into them through other means - NGO's, Philanthropy or investments just because it's the home planet.

But yes, I think every system and planet is different in the Fed but we as players can't see that because we are unable to pull up the records on them.

Yeah, I agree with this too. The general people aren't imperialistic and conquering just for the sake of it. Even despite the OOC metaknowledge of what the elites "are really up to", an individual might have some genuinely sincere reasons for believing in the current course-of-action. 99% of the Fed are just ordinary people.

Pretty much. I never really got the apples-and-oranges kind of logic behind associating Federal Imperialism with the Amarrian brand (Aside perhaps from scoring free propaganda points or what have you). Federal Imperialism is the Imperialism of Capitalism and the requirement of forever expanding in order find and create new markets and resources whilst shutting out potential competitors. Cultural assimilation is a by-product of that process and not the actual goal of how the Federation functions as a capitalist and corporate society [Edit: At the top levels, anyway], in my opinion.

[Natalcya Katla]

Solitude actually has a disproportionately large influence in the Federation, if you read the region description. I picture it as a strategically-located frontier region under heavy development, not as a backwater region in decline. A region full of aggressive hardliners, patriots and opportunists out to plant the flag, build the nation and make fortunes of their own.

[Victoria Stecker]

Texas?

[Natalcya Katla]

Texas?

Much of the old American frontier would serve as a decent analogy, yes. Although possibly with less indigenous inhabitants and/or rival claimants to worry about.

[Vieve]

Texas?

Much of the old American frontier would serve as a decent analogy, yes. Although possibly with less indigenous inhabitants and/or rival claimants to worry about.

I have a similar view on Solitude, though I think it experiences some cultural tension from being sandwiched between Syndicate, the Imperial backwater (also otherwise known as "once upon a time, the systems now known as Solitude may have been a haven for Ni-Kunni border runners and their like") and the Kingdom.  It may also be a key point of entry into the Federation for migrants from those areas, so the local culture may be more a mix of Gallente/Intaki/Imperial races than Gallente/Matari/Intaki/Jin-Mei. 

[Casiella]

(also otherwise known as "once upon a time, the systems now known as Solitude may have been a haven for Ni-Kunni border runners and their like")

My Ni-Kunni border runner thinks that very idea is as preposterous as anything he's ever heard.


>_>

[Natalcya Katla]

I have a similar view on Solitude, though I think it experiences some cultural tension from being sandwiched between Syndicate, the Imperial backwater (also otherwise known as "once upon a time, the systems now known as Solitude may have been a haven for Ni-Kunni border runners and their like") and the Kingdom.  It may also be a key point of entry into the Federation for migrants from those areas, so the local culture may be more a mix of Gallente/Intaki/Imperial races than Gallente/Matari/Intaki/Jin-Mei.

I agree.

On that same note, I quite liked Andreus' take on the ethnic make-up of the various regions of the Federation: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=131157&p=1

[orange]

Solitude always seemed like a great place to setup a development company

[Gessenier]

Solitude also has a very disproportionate amount of Fed Navy, FIO, Fed Customs, and Military-Industrial corps like Roden and Duvolle in the region but there isn't any Fed Admin there which is quite interesting.

I've always had this feeling that Solitude as a region is being used by the Fed as a Military staging area and industrial zone that is strategically situated far away from any potential fighting with the State. It's also a great place to get away from all the damn liberals in the core of the Fed.

[Casiella]

Well, that does sound like most of the western US until you get to the coast.

[orange]

Well, that does sound like most of the western US until you get to the coast.

The west coast of the US has a ton of military & military-industrial complex along it.  Just also has a lot of other people as well.

[Casiella]

I was thinking about the fact that a lot of governmental administration is there, too, though not nearly like the capital region.

[Telsa]

As I'm still getting used to the PF, I have to ask; how adaptable has the Federation been? Instead of imposing RL analogies on fiction, the other way around the fiction reminds me of a liberal nation very willing to change with the times. Also who is perceived to be more hedonistic, Gallente or Amarr?

As a side note on the language discussion earlier did you know India is ranked 2nd in order of total English speakers?

[Morwen Lagann]

Also who is perceived to be more hedonistic, Gallente or Amarr?

Stereotypes pin this one firmly on the Gallente.

However, given the commonly-accepted (afaik) view that there's more to the average Amarrian than is visible in public... well, what happens behind closed doors stays behind closed doors for a reason.