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Ulphus

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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #75 on: 02 May 2012, 22:25 »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War

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Anaya was the main architect and supporter of a military solution for the long-standing claim over the islands,[14] calculating that the United Kingdom would never respond militarily

Sounds to me like they didn't think they'd have to fight at all, let alone lose...

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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #76 on: 02 May 2012, 23:10 »

Eh-- m'self, I'd have little if any problem with FW if it had proved to be a bit more dynamic. Imagine the possibilities if the Cartel developed a militia of its own, or the Covenant. Imagine the merry chaos....

But no: four militias, two sides, endless stalemate, whee.

Mind you, it's the sort of "stalemate" long stretches of WWI were: tens of thousands perish, and the line stays right where it was. That's rather a horrifying meat-grinder to be thrust into-- if, that is, you can die.
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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #77 on: 02 May 2012, 23:18 »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklands_War

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Anaya was the main architect and supporter of a military solution for the long-standing claim over the islands,[14] calculating that the United Kingdom would never respond militarily

Sounds to me like they didn't think they'd have to fight at all, let alone lose...

Close enough--they knew if it came to a fight they'd lose. 
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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #78 on: 03 May 2012, 12:06 »

It might be worth noting that this whole I-RED thread on the IGS is a response to this thread here on Backstage.

Don't like friendliness in your EVE? Please, keep giving us reasons to set you red. :)

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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #79 on: 03 May 2012, 12:23 »

EDIT: Moved this to its own thread.
« Last Edit: 03 May 2012, 14:08 by Saikoyu »
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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #80 on: 03 May 2012, 12:39 »

Also, it's worth noting that this recent I-RED endeavor is slowly teaching me that I hate playing a loyalist to any faction or organization.

Call me weird, but I hate being judged based on something far out of my control like TCRCs, TonyG, or Dropbear's AJ mess. Maybe I'm just pissy that Ishukone was turned into the cluster's punching bag and it makes me want to go pirate and reset standings with everyone. I'd probably be happier if I was judged based on my own actions IC, which makes me admire Jade and Silas and other players who forge their own reputation unrelated to PF ridiculousness.

I'd rather be hated for who I am than hated for who I associate with.

Luckily, I have no diplomacy or policy power within I-RED, so we won't be going pirate. But rest assured, I'd reset everyone if I could. xD

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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #81 on: 03 May 2012, 12:44 »

Also, it's worth noting that this recent I-RED endeavor is slowly teaching me that I hate playing a loyalist to any faction or organization.

Call me weird, but I hate being judged based on something far out of my control like TCRCs, TonyG, or Dropbear's AJ mess. Maybe I'm just pissy that Ishukone was turned into the cluster's punching bag and it makes me want to go pirate and reset standings with everyone. I'd probably be happier if I was judged based on my own actions IC, which makes me admire Jade and Silas and other players who forge their own reputation unrelated to PF ridiculousness.

I'd rather be hated for who I am than hated for who I associate with.

Luckily, I have no diplomacy or policy power within I-RED, so we won't be going pirate. But rest assured, I'd reset everyone if I could. xD

Friends-and-family loyalists, best loyalists. *nodnod* :cube:
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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #82 on: 03 May 2012, 12:48 »

Also, it's worth noting that this recent I-RED endeavor is slowly teaching me that I hate playing a loyalist to any faction or organization.

Call me weird, but I hate being judged based on something far out of my control like TCRCs, TonyG, or Dropbear's AJ mess. Maybe I'm just pissy that Ishukone was turned into the cluster's punching bag and it makes me want to go pirate and reset standings with everyone. I'd probably be happier if I was judged based on my own actions IC, which makes me admire Jade and Silas and other players who forge their own reputation unrelated to PF ridiculousness.

I'd rather be hated for who I am than hated for who I associate with.

Luckily, I have no diplomacy or policy power within I-RED, so we won't be going pirate. But rest assured, I'd reset everyone if I could. xD

Ideals and morality loaylists, best loyalists. *nodnod*

Also, this thread PLEASES KHORNE.



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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #83 on: 03 May 2012, 12:50 »



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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #84 on: 03 May 2012, 12:51 »

Also, it's worth noting that this recent I-RED endeavor is slowly teaching me that I hate playing a loyalist to any faction or organization.

Call me weird, but I hate being judged based on something far out of my control like TCRCs, TonyG, or Dropbear's AJ mess. Maybe I'm just pissy that Ishukone was turned into the cluster's punching bag and it makes me want to go pirate and reset standings with everyone. I'd probably be happier if I was judged based on my own actions IC, which makes me admire Jade and Silas and other players who forge their own reputation unrelated to PF ridiculousness.

I'd rather be hated for who I am than hated for who I associate with.

Luckily, I have no diplomacy or policy power within I-RED, so we won't be going pirate. But rest assured, I'd reset everyone if I could. xD

Katrina do not dispair!!! Ironically it can sometimes be MORE fun and mentally rewarding for coming up with the twisted logic necessary to defend X factions behavior and actions.

Look at Rodj having to do mental RP gymnastics around Jamyl for years and still maintaining the high ground.  :)

These days with the dearth of IC news its never been easier to 'do your own thing' as we aren't given as many ic 'guidelines' as we used to.  I think IRED has a great niche and have been playing the long-game for years, and the PF has been pretty in-line with the direction John took things years ago. 

It's a good place to be, and like I said earlier just pretend it's real and how would you as a representative combat some of our nit-picking and arguments?

But... if you should ever grow tired and want to fly your own flag just pick up the phone ;)


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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #85 on: 03 May 2012, 12:58 »

Good points, you all.

I'm still new to the rough-and-tumble RP style of EVE. I'm trying to figure out how I can spin the TCRC argument.

The best I have so far is that Ishukone simply doesn't give a damn about the slavery issue. They had a product to sell, and wanted to sell in bulk. Holders were the most likely to buy in bulk, so Ishukone offered a discount to encourage that. I figure that's not going to go over well with Matar blues (of which color we have few left from any faction), but the only other alternatives are denial or confirming we're evil slaver enablers on purpose.

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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #86 on: 03 May 2012, 13:01 »

All kinds of weird and wonderful twists of reasoning and Moebius logic to justify things IC?

Just you wait until live events mess about with Ishukone heavily. c:
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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #87 on: 03 May 2012, 13:04 »

Katrina you might have success simply admitting to the past actions that happened -years- ago, and point out about the changes in leadership and direction over the last few years, and how you are trying to move forward, corp pr speak yadda yadda....

And yea as was just said, may you have the benefit and fun experience of having your cherished faction dramatically changed by sudden and 'what the hell?' PF :)

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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #88 on: 03 May 2012, 13:10 »

Yeah I am dreading to see how CCP will play out Templar One's developments.

Ishukone is now an Enemy of the State.
Ishukone is now an Enemy of the Empire.

Not sure if this will be a good thing or bad thing. Not sure how the RP community will treat this drastic official shift in policy.

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Re: Let there be WAR!
« Reply #89 on: 03 May 2012, 13:15 »

Yeah I am dreading to see how CCP will play out Templar One's developments.

Ishukone is now an Enemy of the State.
Ishukone is now an Enemy of the Empire.

Not sure if this will be a good thing or bad thing. Not sure how the RP community will treat this drastic official shift in policy.

Status quo until 'we' have any IC knowledge of any of this.... considering templar one happened quite a while ago in-game and we've yet to hear of anything you should be in good shape for a while yet.

Doesn't mean you can't start laying some IC prep-work for when the other shoe drops and ishukone are persona-nan-grata state side.

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