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[Silas Vitalia]

Running any more than a few NPC missions will quickly break all kinds of believability if you are trying to RP. 

You can't talk about the missions with anyone (how many 1000's of damsels have been rescued?)

You can't possibly have killed that many ships and crews without single-handedly bringing these conflicts to a screeching halt from depopulation.

I'd take missions as a springboard for more interesting stories that you come up with yourself. Use the plots you are given as a kernel for a good idea maybe?

If you over-analyze any of the missions things fall apart extremely fast, and it's extremely problematic to get on anyone for the actions the do in a mission considering their limitations.

[Bacchanalian]

So why do so many missions then?

[Bong-cha Jones]

Some people enjoy them?

[BloodBird]

So why do so many missions then?

Reputation grind, ISK rewards, loot, salvage, time-waster with friends? Just because people RP and like their consistent IC reality, don't mean they should stop running missions for whatever reason or benefit anyone else might run them for - it just means they are likely to avoid talking about them for reasons that are well-covered in this tread.

[Graelyn]

Other shitty MMOs have lots of players because of the grind/reward mechanic that they offer. It appeals to some deep machination of the lizard brain. Missions in EVE appeal to those who come to EVE just for that.

Yes, it's a massive waste considering the depth available in the sandbox, but then, so are the millions playing WoW/ToR. It's what they want. *shrug*

[Bacchanalian]

Well...then why do people not RP NRDS but actually act NBSI because it's more fun/rewarding?

[Graelyn]

I could explain that to you for a low, low price.

[Ulphus]

Well...then why do people not RP NRDS but actually act NBSI because it's more fun/rewarding?

I think it comes down to consistency and suspension of disbelief.

It would be very hard for my SOD to RP that I'm NRDS and yet shoot everything that moves, at least partially because I hold with the "things that happen in space really happen" school of RP. If I shoot at you in space, I can't just pretend that I didn't shoot at you in my RP once I've stopped flying my ship for the night.

On the other hand, if I run a mission and it's the 15th time the damsel has to be rescued it damages my SOD to talk about it. It's a limitation of the game, not the world, so my SOD suffers less to pretend that I didn't just run exactly the same mission as last week, than if I RP that I've rescued the damsel 15 times and I wish her legal guardians would put her in a secure facility or something. Ideally, missions would be infinitely varied so I never had to avoid talking about them, but I don't see that coming anytime soon.

And to be honest, I've done NBSI and I've done NRDS, and NRDS (at least the flavor of NRDS I do now) is not less enjoyable to me.

[Jev North]

This space contained a rant about how - suspension of disbelief issues aside -  it would seem silly to, when claiming not to do certain things, to routinely do those things in space anyway and then bluntly deny they happened. It was removed because it could be interpreted as retroactively slamming someone who simply set out with a different idea of what's "real" in the game.

[Bacchanalian]

Well...then why do people not RP NRDS but actually act NBSI because it's more fun/rewarding?

I'm NRDS and yet shoot everything that moves, at least partially because I hold with the "things that happen in space really happen" school of RP.

Missions happen in space.

[Ulphus]

Missions happen in space.

Yep, which is why if I go missioning I'll say I'm missioning (unless in character I'm feeling a bit ashamed for missioning instead of shooting amarians, but that's IC lying, not pretending the world is different than it is) and I'll even go so far as to say I'm shooting Angels or rogue drones or whoever the target is, but I won't delve down to talk about specific details about the mission.

As far as the original post is concerned, if I do a mission that involves shooting civilians, or Gallente, or whoever, then my character really did a mission that involved shooting those people. To prove it, I don't think it's enough to say "you ran a bunch of missions, so you must have run that specific mission at some stage".

Warp to the mission site, see wreckage, see me warp away? Fair cop. Otherwise, not convinced.

[Kiki Truzhari]

Missions happen in space.

Yep, which is why if I go missioning I'll say I'm missioning (unless in character I'm feeling a bit ashamed for missioning instead of shooting amarians, but that's IC lying, not pretending the world is different than it is) and I'll even go so far as to say I'm shooting Angels or rogue drones or whoever the target is, but I won't delve down to talk about specific details about the mission.

As far as the original post is concerned, if I do a mission that involves shooting civilians, or Gallente, or whoever, then my character really did a mission that involved shooting those people. To prove it, I don't think it's enough to say "you ran a bunch of missions, so you must have run that specific mission at some stage".

Warp to the mission site, see wreckage, see me warp away? Fair cop. Otherwise, not convinced.

That's pretty much my take on it as well.

[Lyn Farel]

Well...then why do people not RP NRDS but actually act NBSI because it's more fun/rewarding?

For the exact same reasons. Some find pretty decent IC excuses while others do not care, and that is the limits of their RP RoEs, when you start to have a huge gap between your IC claims and what you do in space. Has been the case in 90% of the corps I have been until now, excluding my own and AM ofc.

[Dame Death]

s far as the original post is concerned, if I do a mission that involves shooting civilians, or Gallente, or whoever, then my character really did a mission that involved shooting those people. To prove it, I don't think it's enough to say "you ran a bunch of missions, so you must have run that specific mission at some stage".

Warp to the mission site, see wreckage, see me warp away? Fair cop. Otherwise, not convinced.

Ja didnt say that, what she did was point out a certain mission and ask if they had ran it, whicch they admitted they had.

[Ulphus]

Ja didnt say that, what she did was point out a certain mission and ask if they had ran it, whicch they admitted they had.

Which is where I think you went wrong. If we work from the assumption that there isn't really only 10 different missions in FW, you can't therefore list them all by name, nor can you assume that someone running a mission with the same code-name as one you've run, ran the same mission you did. Sure, OOC you can, but not IC, as far as I'm concerned.

Where Kikia went wrong is in answering in the affirmative, since I don't think the question made sense from an IC perspective.