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[Kaldor Mintat]

Ok this really needs to be posted, its a true gem...

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/105/index/970146/1

scroll down to the 6th post.

[Mizhara]

Right, I can very vividly imagine that person finishing ME3. The force of the facepalm would launch his/her brains across the room.

[Kaldor Mintat]

Yeah, that's the biggest plothole, really. why on earth did they make such a big fuss in ME2 about dark energy, from Parasini of Noveria talking about it, to Haestrom, to numerous other hints sprinkled through the game AND DLC? And then not even use it in ME3?

It reeks of some kind of weird executive decision tbh.

Drew something that was the writer for that left Bioware and the gaming industry to focus on his novel writing as i hear.

[Caellach Marellus]

Actually there IS dark energy references in ME3.

It requires you recruiting the aid of your biggest fan, it's the ultimate completionist reward in the game.

[Louella Dougans]

[spoiler]

Published years ago by Dr. Conrad Verner, this doctorial dissertation on xenotechnology is a lengthy but intriguing argument that dark energy causes a minute but empirically observable difference in the passage of time. Hotly debated when first published, the paper's theory is supported by recent data. The dissertation illuminates several instructions left by the Protheans on how to build the Crucible.

[/spoiler]

is in ME3

though, every mass effect thing is something to do with dark energy. Dark energy is the thing that makes element zero do stuff.

So maybe the Reapers were wanting to stop all these civilisations using mass effects, because the dark energy use is causing the universe to slow down and die, or something.

YOU MUST DIE SO THE UNIVERSE CAN LIVE, or something. Hence why "preserving" cultures in Reaper form, and general weirdness that would lend itself to the Reaper Plan being "incomprehensible" to mere individual persons.

because, it is a bit of a difficult thing to grasp, that using biotic powers makes the universe freeze to death or something. People would go "surely my personal use of things isn't significant?" and so on.

I dunno, vOv, I'm not really all that bright tbh.

[Morwen Lagann]

Actually there IS dark energy references in ME3.

It requires you recruiting the aid of your biggest fan, it's the ultimate completionist reward in the game.

In other words it is completely unavailable to people who continued an ME1 save to ME2 on PC, because even if you Paragon'd the shit out of Conrad's mission in ME1, it always marks you as having Renegaded it when you import.

[Louella Dougans]

Actually there IS dark energy references in ME3.

It requires you recruiting the aid of your biggest fan, it's the ultimate completionist reward in the game.

In other words it is completely unavailable to people who continued an ME1 save to ME2 on PC, because even if you Paragon'd the shit out of Conrad's mission in ME1, it always marks you as having Renegaded it when you import.

I was able to talk to Conrad in ME3, using a game progressed from ME1 through ME2, so... ?

[Morwen Lagann]

When you import an ME1 save into ME2, it marks you as having taken the renegade route with Conrad even if you didn't; hence the "even had a gun shoved in my face by... Commander Shepard!?" line in ME2.

He's not exactly your biggest fan at that point, which would kinda preclude that option, wouldn't it? I know I saw him in ME3 and took the paragon-ish route in that conversation, but I definitely did *not* get any result like that.

[Louella Dougans]

ah,there's 2 ways to meet Conrad, only one of which will get the dissertation.

[Morwen Lagann]

Yeah, I looked it up. It's odd, because I *know* I completed the requirements for that, so what gives?

I'll have to look at the flags in the save files later and see. Bleh.

[Louella Dougans]

[spoiler]iirc, you meet Conrad when you're involved with a mission to deal with medi-gel dispensers, from a doctor on the refugee section. The doctor talks about 2 things. A person talking about Cerberus, and the sabotaged medigel dispensers.

If you go looking around first, you will see Conrad, and you can talk to him then, this will get you the dissertation.

If you fix the medigel things first, then go back to the doctor, Conrad appears there as well, and then disappears at the end. You cannot then get the dissertation.[/spoiler]

[Lyn Farel]

[spoiler]

Published years ago by Dr. Conrad Verner, this doctorial dissertation on xenotechnology is a lengthy but intriguing argument that dark energy causes a minute but empirically observable difference in the passage of time. Hotly debated when first published, the paper's theory is supported by recent data. The dissertation illuminates several instructions left by the Protheans on how to build the Crucible.

[/spoiler]

is in ME3

though, every mass effect thing is something to do with dark energy. Dark energy is the thing that makes element zero do stuff.

So maybe the Reapers were wanting to stop all these civilisations using mass effects, because the dark energy use is causing the universe to slow down and die, or something.

YOU MUST DIE SO THE UNIVERSE CAN LIVE, or something. Hence why "preserving" cultures in Reaper form, and general weirdness that would lend itself to the Reaper Plan being "incomprehensible" to mere individual persons.

because, it is a bit of a difficult thing to grasp, that using biotic powers makes the universe freeze to death or something. People would go "surely my personal use of things isn't significant?" and so on.

I dunno, vOv, I'm not really all that bright tbh.

I really like that idea, tied to the Big Rip / Big Crush (point Omega) and all, and have already thought about it when I got on Haestrom in ME2, but this explanation would have to be strenghtened to get a little less stretched : like, people using biotics accelerating the death of the galaxy ? Huh... A little too stretched for me. :p

But I love the idea.

[lallara zhuul]

[spoiler]

Published years ago by Dr. Conrad Verner, this doctorial dissertation on xenotechnology is a lengthy but intriguing argument that dark energy causes a minute but empirically observable difference in the passage of time. Hotly debated when first published, the paper's theory is supported by recent data. The dissertation illuminates several instructions left by the Protheans on how to build the Crucible.

[/spoiler]

is in ME3

though, every mass effect thing is something to do with dark energy. Dark energy is the thing that makes element zero do stuff.

So maybe the Reapers were wanting to stop all these civilisations using mass effects, because the dark energy use is causing the universe to slow down and die, or something.

YOU MUST DIE SO THE UNIVERSE CAN LIVE, or something. Hence why "preserving" cultures in Reaper form, and general weirdness that would lend itself to the Reaper Plan being "incomprehensible" to mere individual persons.

because, it is a bit of a difficult thing to grasp, that using biotic powers makes the universe freeze to death or something. People would go "surely my personal use of things isn't significant?" and so on.

I dunno, vOv, I'm not really all that bright tbh.

This would be kind of like making comparisons with individuals polluting the Earth and such.

Maybe it was scrapped because it was too controversial.

 

[Mizhara]

It wasn't scrapped because that particular stuff was never on the table. What did get scrapped was most likely scrapped because it was leaked beforehand. (Remember the Bioware leak? The work-in-progress script was part of it.) That is the general opinion on why it never made it to the game, anyway.

[Caellach Marellus]

When you import an ME1 save into ME2, it marks you as having taken the renegade route with Conrad even if you didn't; hence the "even had a gun shoved in my face by... Commander Shepard!?" line in ME2.

He apologises for that if you didn't really do it.