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[Ulphus]

Maybe its just personal bias when a majority of rp'ers act like 0.0 is unimportant ...

Uh, is 0.0 important? Mostly nothing that happens out there affects my character except as it drives different entities to retreat to lowsec from time to time where they shoot at us and vice versa.

Why should my character care?

[Lyn Farel]

Unimportant is a bit strong and exagerated, but it surely does not affect a lot of us. And that is clearly a secondary thing compared to PF and NPC factions related stuff, for most RPers.

[Syagrius]

“The Summit” was my first experience in Eve RP.   

I don’t frequent the channel anymore as one of its moderators and I are on the outs. 

That being said, not having “The Summit” to rely on for my “IC Fix” of Eve RP, pushed me into other more rewarding RP environments and improved my overall RP experience. 

After all there are only so many rapes, murders, suicides, and drunken ramblings one can survive. 

But still to be honest on occasion there is good RP in The Summit, I have seen it. 

It’s just too bad other stuff gets in the way.

[Desiderya]

And I miss having a go at "Nice uncle James" with Des. 

[Graelyn]

I don’t frequent the channel anymore as one of its moderators and I are on the outs. 

That's a terrible reason to cut off an avenue of RP.

[Rodj Blake]

As far as political forums, they're a worthy idea, but there is little room for them in-game. Get enough RPers together, there's going to be an argument about whose faction is better than whose. The only way to prevent that downfall is to use moderators or spokespeople, and that gets too complicated. As soon as things are complicated enough to take organizational effort, the players shirk and stop using the channel.

Exactly.

But why wouldn't enemies argue about stuff rather than enjoying a brandy and a cigar together whilst discussing the weather?

[Senn Typhos]

As far as political forums, they're a worthy idea, but there is little room for them in-game. Get enough RPers together, there's going to be an argument about whose faction is better than whose. The only way to prevent that downfall is to use moderators or spokespeople, and that gets too complicated. As soon as things are complicated enough to take organizational effort, the players shirk and stop using the channel.

Exactly.

But why wouldn't enemies argue about stuff rather than enjoying a brandy and a cigar together whilst discussing the weather?

That's sort of the point, actually.

[Esna Pitoojee]

As far as political forums, they're a worthy idea, but there is little room for them in-game. Get enough RPers together, there's going to be an argument about whose faction is better than whose. The only way to prevent that downfall is to use moderators or spokespeople, and that gets too complicated. As soon as things are complicated enough to take organizational effort, the players shirk and stop using the channel.

Exactly.

But why wouldn't enemies argue about stuff rather than enjoying a brandy and a cigar together whilst discussing the weather?

I think the assumption is that, if you get enough people together, it'll degenerate into a standard, been-done-since-2003, "no u" style arguement - i.e., people useing lots of red herrings, random insults, and long-since-recycled arguements, rather than an honest discussion about the realistic "good" and "bad" points of a give faction.


EDIT: To clarify the above, it's not that I feel such arguements are bad. Rather, it's that nobody's invented a new arguement in ages - most of the arguements I see barely touch on some of the most recent PF, preferring instead to go with the old "...well you bombed our planets with chemical weapons!" "But you enslaved us first!" etc etc. over and over again.

[Caellach Marellus]

The thing is a lot of the old arguments have never been resolved. Factions still at war, Sansha's Nation still enslaving the galaxy, Amarrians still wanting to enslave the entire galaxy, does God exist, does God agree with the Amarrians, are all Gallente just drug abusing sexual deviants and have the Civire really regressed backwards to looking more like apes?

The point is, people's characters are built around these things, they aren't going to change their opinion or belief system because "That's old, find something new to believe passionately in." Yes the arguments go around in full circle, but every so often something new comes out of it.

And yes while you've "been there, done that 1,001 times" newer players and characters haven't. It's hardly right to dictate what should and shouldn't be debated on the basis of how many times you've seen it happen. If you want a new subject, bring it up yourself to get people interested in it. It doesn't help that the Summit seems to be the only stable constant source of public RP either, I can't honestly think of any other channel that is open to all of New Eden where someone can enter and get involved in IC interaction with the exception of diplomatic channels relating to specific corps and alliances.

[Syagrius]

I don’t frequent the channel anymore as one of its moderators and I are on the outs. 

That's a terrible reason to cut off an avenue of RP.

Be that as it may and your “opinion” is appreciated.   But the frequent threats of preemptive muting that stem from that sour relationship tend to be off putting.   

[Caellach Marellus]

I don’t frequent the channel anymore as one of its moderators and I are on the outs. 

That's a terrible reason to cut off an avenue of RP.

Be that as it may and your “opinion” is appreciated.   But the frequent threats of preemptive muting that stem from that sour relationship tend to be off putting.

I believe the best case would be to PM Graelyn evidence of such.

[Graelyn]

On the fucking double.

[Syagrius]

On the fucking double.

Well to be honest I did ask for your advice and assistance just after the initial occurrence via eve mail.  As I didn’t get a reply I didn’t bother, several months later when it occurred again.   

The purpose of my original post wasn’t to pass judgment.  Simply to answer the question asked, yes the Summit can be an avenue for RP and occasionally a good one, but there are certainly many others.   

While I consider the matter closed, ergo I no longer visit “The Summit” I would be happy to discuss it in game.