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[Ciarente]

...yet the more they change, the more they stay the same.

I think I just found out why some folks believe in justified homicide

PS: I think "Because (s)he was stupid as shit, your honor" should be valid justification if you can prove it.

Or s/he was talking during the movie...

[Kyoko Sakoda]

I actually did this about a year or so ago and it's been on my FTP since. I suspect I haven't changed in at least a few years.

The interesting thing I notice is that most all respondents here lean socially libertarian. That's cool, because what irks me more than anything politically is the up-down battle, not the left-right battle. It really grinds my nerves when people describe Obama as a socialist, or any Republican other than Ron Paul a libertarian.

So then we're all uber-intelligent, dirty hippies?

[Casiella]

So then we're all uber-intelligent, dirty hippies?

I am.

[Havohej]

Hippies!  Where's Eric Cartman when you need him!?  :p

[Koronakesh]

Yay purplez \o/

[Casiella]

I think that's pretty much where most Americans say they are. (Whether they actually are remains open to debate, of course.)

[Kamiko Hautala]

I think that's pretty much where most Americans say they are. (Whether they actually are remains open to debate, of course.)

Where Kesh showed his compass result? I don't think that most Americans claim to be like that, just based on party alignment; there are more Democrats in the US than Republicans, but philosophy wise I would say that a very large majority are socially libertarian in some way. There are also a lot of centrists and independents.

[Casiella]

I mean, you hear a LOT of people say, "I'm fiscally conservative but socially liberal". Many folks don't quite adhere to at least one of those, depending on the person. Sometimes neither of those.

[Seriphyn]

I'm not going to take the compass test, but recently I've begun to think I am more in line with the non-extremist wings of the BNP...and the strangest thing about this is that I am not ethnically British. You might see a pic of me on the RL pic thread; I'm south Asian looking (though I'm half-white)...

Yeah...wierd that.

[Casiella]

The BNP has non-extremist wings?

[Natalcya Katla]

I thought the UKIP was the somewhat less extremist wing of the BNP. 

[Kamiko Hautala]

The BNP is pretty much all psycho. I won't debate anyone on that, it's a bunch of angry white Englishmen who think the immigration is so out of control that they'll look down upon anyone that wasn't there when the country was founded.

I consider the UKIP to be somewhat like the Tea Party movement.

[Kyoko Sakoda]

Here's just what I notice in my travels:

In America the conservatives lean authoritarian because of a long military tradition. I won't go so far as labeling them 'imperialist' but they certainly tend to view America as necessary for the security of democracy and free trade. The "defense of liberty" is their main concern, and the military tends to be the biggest government institution they support, along with law enforcement and finally public education systems. The liberals here lean libertarian, which in this context tends to mean more government oversight of the economy and spending on domestic problems, infrastructure, welfare, and leaving other countries to do their own thing. The liberals tend to be centrist on the global stage, and by no means socialist, although many support some mild form of socialized medicine.

I like to think that many Americans are center-right, and a lot more libertarian than the politicians we vote into the legislature. That is, citizens want our government to start dealing with the problems at home, and less abroad, or at least that's the trend.

Unfortunately, typically credible grassroots movements tend to get hijacked by our two-party system. The Republicans are hijacking the much more libertarian and fiscally conservative Tea Party Movement right now. In reality, both parties spend enormous sums, and the only difference is their budget priority.

Because of the 60 votes in the Senate necessary to pass any non-fiscal legislation, and excessive lobbying of corporations, there is little room for a third and fourth party, which in my opinion is unfortunate.

Interestingly in the UK it seems to be the case of authoritarian liberals and libertarian conservatives. A classic case would be net neutrality and the DMCA bill that just passed over there.

Also, the BNP is just whack.

[Kamiko Hautala]

Here's just what I notice in my travels:

In America the conservatives lean authoritarian because of a long military tradition. I won't go so far as labeling them 'imperialist' but they certainly tend to view America as necessary for the security of democracy and free trade. The "defense of liberty" is their main concern, and the military tends to be the biggest government institution they support, along with law enforcement and finally public education systems. The liberals here lean libertarian, which in this context tends to mean more government oversight of the economy and spending on domestic problems, infrastructure, welfare, and leaving other countries to do their own thing. The liberals tend to be centrist on the global stage, and by no means socialist, although many support some mild form of socialized medicine.

I like to think that many Americans are center-right, and a lot more libertarian than the politicians we vote into the legislature. That is, citizens want our government to start dealing with the problems at home, and less abroad, or at least that's the trend.

Unfortunately, typically credible grassroots movements tend to get hijacked by our two-party system. The Republicans are hijacking the much more libertarian and fiscally conservative Tea Party Movement right now. In reality, both parties spend enormous sums, and the only difference is their budget priority.

Because of the 60 votes in the Senate necessary to pass any non-fiscal legislation, and excessive lobbying of corporations, there is little room for a third and fourth party, which in my opinion is unfortunate.

Interestingly in the UK it seems to be the case of authoritarian liberals and libertarian conservatives. A classic case would be net neutrality and the DMCA bill that just passed over there.

Also, the BNP is just whack.

By authoritarian liberals I assume you mean New Labour. I know the Lib Dems support a weaker government when it comes to enforcing laws that jeopardize civil liberties, and they want the majority of CCTVs gone. In my opinion, the Tories in the UK are just in it for the money banks give them.

[Lillith Blackheart]

So then we're all uber-intelligent, dirty hippies?

I would suggest half of that is debatable.