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[Laurentis Thiesant]

Australia is at the top of my list of countries to move to

I'm with Jianni, if Abbot ends up becoming Prime Minister, you might wanna think about somewhere else.

He doesn't like boat people. You'll probably end up interned in a camp in the desert or something.

... or in cheap motel accommodation.
However it is we're doing it this week.  

... and yeah, the ISP filter is a bit  , hell, thats why I don't mind the Sex Party. (That and it's fun to scream Sex Party at people and watch them react). Oh, and the policies.

Yeah those were the two biggest issues for my voting this time. No-one else really seemed to understand why I thought manditory internet filtering was such a big deal.

Maybe it's because I'm a gamer or something. Sigh.

Yeah, I guess I'm not actually so concerned about the whole 'boat people' invasion - considering they make up a tiny percentage of illegal immigration. Net Filter, bad idea, yes.

Just replying because we STILL don't have an elected leader. 

[Laurentis Thiesant]

Correction.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/07/3005028.htm

New Govt.

[Valdezi]

I was going to post something similar, but you beat me.

Interesting times ahead.

[Jari Katir]

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.15

Not sure I really like some questions (yes, faith is an issue but really, asking about astrology factors into politics? Come on, Ronny Reagan had one of those) but hey, it falls where I'd expect it to for me and was a fun way to spend some time. Honestly I do dislike how there seems to be no distinction between socialism and communism, though, I think the only thing keeping me from being full hog commie according to this chart is I believe land can be owned 

[Benjamin Shepherd]

I'm still waiting for our hardcore fascist; that is, someone who scores +10,+10.

[Lillith Blackheart]

I'm still waiting for our hardcore fascist; that is, someone who scores +10,+10.

I haven't filled it out in a long time (I hate the questions and refuse to fill it out again because I'm a PITA like that), but I'm probably the closest you get a +1, +7 (x, y).

<--- inhouse Fascist.

Also the X position matters little when you're looking at Fascism as it goes.

[Boma Airaken]

Dangerous thread. Kudos for having the balls to start it.

I don't really get to fit in to the left and right categories.

I believe in flat out anarcho-capitalism, but if I had to "fit in" I would say libertarian.

I don't believe in social programs of any sort unless they are directed at children or the elderly, but thats a sliding scale nobody can agree on.

My family is FAR below the US poverty line and none of us believe in entitlements.

As far as gun control and things like that, if I am a law abiding citizen I see no reason why I shouldn't have a fully loaded F15 parked in my driveway.

All I care about is individual liberty. The rest can suck it.

[Casiella]

I'm genuinely curious, Boma: how do you feel about surveillance, police discretion, racial profiling, and immigration?

[Benjamin Shepherd]

In response to Boma, I feel that social programs are necessary for such a large population, we're almost at the 350 million mark in the United States, and not letting the government assist the public is almost negligent.

My father worked for two of the largest law firms in the world, and was screwed over not by lack of work ethic, but by management perks that higher ups wanted to keep. Long story short, corporations don't have oversight; the government does, that's their job, and it's been their job.

I would promote a more limited government when there was an extremely small number of citizens, but no major nation wouldn't have social programs designed to help with issues other than children.

[Ashar Kor-Azor]

I'm still waiting for our hardcore fascist; that is, someone who scores +10,+10.

I haven't filled it out in a long time (I hate the questions and refuse to fill it out again because I'm a PITA like that), but I'm probably the closest you get a +1, +7 (x, y).

<--- inhouse Fascist.

Also the X position matters little when you're looking at Fascism as it goes.

The assertion here that fascism is concerned primarily with authority isn't really relevant to the discussion, sadly, because more or less everyone here isn't fond of restrictions on self-expression.

This is evident because of their willingness to take advantage of a lack of such restrictions and post on this fucking forum.

In the context of this discussion, fascism can only be sensibly involved in relation to its economic policies and value systems and the spectrum of extents to which it has or hasn't restricted individual liberties for the sake of a conception of a nation rather than the extent to which these liberties are curtailed for the sake of the rights of one's fellows.

The difference between a government's justified restriction of your actions for the safety of others and its restrictions of your actions for the safety of the government and its associated institutions (the 'establishment' of a given nation) is a significant one that's been danced around plenty in this thread. Think on it.

[Benjamin Shepherd]

On a side note, Ashar is of course the one to bring up old as hell posts. wtg.

[Ulphus]

The assertion here that fascism is concerned primarily with authority isn't really relevant to the discussion, sadly, because more or less everyone here isn't fond of restrictions on self-expression.

This is evident because of their willingness to take advantage of a lack of such restrictions and post on this fucking forum.

If that were true, I don't think there'd be as much support for the moderation as there is.

[Vincent Pryce]

[Boma Airaken]

I'm genuinely curious, Boma: how do you feel about surveillance, police discretion, racial profiling, and immigration?

Surveillance? I have a right to be secure in my home and my papers. As soon as I leave said home, mail said papers, transmit something over a network, leave my house, make a cellular or traditional phone call, all bets are off and it is my responsibility to ensure my own security. When it leaves the walls of my domain all bets are off and I do not have a right to privacy.

Police discretion? Tough one. I have some previous law enforcement experience and chose not to continue it due to the fact that I was not able to apply discretion due to possible litigation. A good example: Call at state park about suspicious vehicle. I HAVE to confirm if I am responding. I respond. It is two puppy love teenagers smooching and smoking some pot and enjoying the night in the wilderness.

What do I do? Well, I cite or arrest, because even though I think it is totally harmless and want them to have a totally awesome night, if I don't though, and there is a car accident or any other number of situations that could come into play, I lose my job, I get sued, my life is over, because I responded, did not detain or arrest for posession, intent, and driving under the influence.

Sans the litigation threat, I think law enforcement should have the ability to make a call in the field. LEO's for the most fart are very fair people if treated with the respect they deserve.

Racial profiling? If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck.....well lets just say that I will oppose racial profiling the day that white kids can start a caucasian club at a college and affirmative action becomes noinexistant.

[Benjamin Shepherd]

LEO's for the most fart are very fair people if treated with the respect they deserve.

Hah, you said fart.

Fart. Hah.