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Author Topic: Your frigates have crew  (Read 20113 times)

Victoria Valadeus

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Your frigates have crew
« on: 31 Jul 2011, 18:26 »
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Minimum Crew is the bare minimum number of personnel required to operate the vessel with only basic functions (i.e., assuming no modules fitted).



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Amarr: Mid-range
Caldari: Mid- to upper-range
Gallente: Lower-range
Minmatar: Upper-range

Needed to get that out of my system.

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Kybernetes Moros

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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #1 on: 31 Jul 2011, 18:38 »
Yeah. For people who've RPed players who have been happy to lose frigates because of the lack of deaths, though, from years before this information was released, it doesn't seem like much of a stretch to assume that those 1-3 people can be covered with drones or whatever. The higher complexity of, say, a cruiser forbids it, but when it's the choice between a slight handwave and a good many older RPers retconning much of their characters?
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Casiella

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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #2 on: 31 Jul 2011, 18:49 »
I can hand wave 1 person pretty easily with no heartache.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #3 on: 31 Jul 2011, 19:13 »
At least there won't be anyone who can say 'Frigates don't have crew and urdoinitrong if your frigates have'em.' anymore.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #4 on: 31 Jul 2011, 19:16 »
... Yeah. Frigates have a small enough crew complement that I'd think it would be acceptably handwaveable for a well-trained capsuleer (like, specced into frigs and/or high-SP, for example) could handle smaller frigates without crew.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #5 on: 31 Jul 2011, 19:18 »
I think it depends on the frigate. I've previously played that something like the rifter has no non-pod-pilot crew, and something like the cheetah (or other electronics platform or scanning ship) has half a dozen electronics specialists etc.

This isn't really a change for me.

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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #6 on: 31 Jul 2011, 19:33 »
Quote from: Ulphus on 31 Jul 2011, 19:18
I think it depends on the frigate. I've previously played that something like the rifter has no non-pod-pilot crew, and something like the cheetah (or other electronics platform or scanning ship) has half a dozen electronics specialists etc.

This isn't really a change for me.

This. It was explicit said long before Tony-G came along that the Rifter has no crew besides the Capsuleer. It was in the original artwork. If anyone is reconning previous established lore, it's Tony Gonzales... not us.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #7 on: 31 Jul 2011, 20:05 »
Frigates are crew in the grand galactic spaceracer!
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Casiella

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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #8 on: 31 Jul 2011, 21:27 »
See, it's just CCP catalyzing conflict... ;)
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Graelyn

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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #9 on: 01 Aug 2011, 05:39 »
This topic is silly.

Really.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #10 on: 01 Aug 2011, 05:48 »
The survivor rate is kinda cool. Haven't seen that before.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #11 on: 01 Aug 2011, 06:31 »
I love when PF rears its ugleh head and people hand wave it away.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #12 on: 01 Aug 2011, 07:10 »
 I see nothing that says the Capsuleer is not including in the crew listed.  This makes it very possible that the crew of 1 is the capsuleer.
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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #13 on: 01 Aug 2011, 07:23 »
Quote from: orange on 01 Aug 2011, 07:10
I see nothing that says the Capsuleer is not including in the crew listed.  This makes it very possible that the crew of 1 is the capsuleer.

Actually if you take a look at the Shuttle row you'll see the "with capsuleer" section has a zero in it, making it clear that the capsuleer is not included in the crew section.

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Re: Your frigates have crew
« Reply #14 on: 01 Aug 2011, 08:04 »
Very neat, I like these numbers. Also makes it clear that stuff like modules, i.e. a gun battery, require dedicated gunnery crews, etc.
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