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[Casiella]

That's what I think it means. Maybe if I were at home, I could log into Sisi and check...

[Borza]

I don't understand the issue here. So you can see that (for example) somebody has +6.0 faction standings to the Minmatar Republic, but not their +9.0 to Republic Fleet.

Have I missed something?

Possibly you're right, but it doesn't read that way to me:

Information on a pilot's standings towards NPC corporations is no longer visible from 'Show Info'. You now see the standings information between you and the other pilot and the factions you each belong to.

[Lyn Farel]

Sounds more logical to me. I would even like for people to chose if they want to keep their standings private or public (much like certificates), with the private option by default. Though it would automatically needs to remain public for the corporation directors, its mandatory for obvious reasons (I hope they thought of that ??).

[Louella Dougans]

If it is the same as is on sis atm, You will only see the standings between you/your corp/your alliance and them/their corp/their alliance.

You do not see if X pilot has only standings with the starter agent and is therefore probably an alt.

You do not see that Y pilot has -10.00 with the blood raiders and claims to be one of them.

You do not see the agents that people are missioning for, requiring the use of locators to find people.

[Ghost Hunter]

If it is the same as is on sis atm, You will only see the standings between you/your corp/your alliance and them/their corp/their alliance.

You do not see if X pilot has only standings with the starter agent and is therefore probably an alt.

You do not see that Y pilot has -10.00 with the blood raiders and claims to be one of them.

You do not see the agents that people are missioning for, requiring the use of locators to find people.

If I understand this, all personal standings are invisible to players but corporate and alliance are visible?

[Louella Dougans]

If it is the same as is on sis atm, You will only see the standings between you/your corp/your alliance and them/their corp/their alliance.

You do not see if X pilot has only standings with the starter agent and is therefore probably an alt.

You do not see that Y pilot has -10.00 with the blood raiders and claims to be one of them.

You do not see the agents that people are missioning for, requiring the use of locators to find people.

If I understand this, all personal standings are invisible to players but corporate and alliance are visible?

When you go to "standings" at the moment, there are 3 tabs. "Liked By" "Disliked By" "Relationship".

On sisi, there is only 1, which corresponds to the current "relationship"

This goes for all things.

Pilots, Corporations, Alliances.

You will only see the relationship between you and them.


FURTHERMORE NPC CORPS AND FACTIONS ARE ALSO AFFECTED

You CANNOT see that e.g. Amarr Empire is liked by the Ammatar and disliked by the Minmatar.

[Kohiko Sun]

If it is the same as is on sis atm, You will only see the standings between you/your corp/your alliance and them/their corp/their alliance.

You do not see if X pilot has only standings with the starter agent and is therefore probably an alt.

You do not see that Y pilot has -10.00 with the blood raiders and claims to be one of them.

You do not see the agents that people are missioning for, requiring the use of locators to find people.

Urf. This'll be annoying from the intel and counter-intel side. Point #2 more than point #4 if you don't require limited API from applicants, but #4 was always good for finding silly WTs who don't change their habits during a war.

Probably more annoying will be for corps (like ours) that have certain standings expectations, like for giving insta-JC access for newbies, highsec POS anchoring, or different RP reasons. It's either API verification or take them at their word that they meet, or are working to improve, the wanted standings instead of the simple click and peek that can be done as soon as someone says, "Hi. I'd like a job."

[Ken]

Interesting move.  Considering it, I find this a bit liberating.

[Ghost Hunter]

If it is the same as is on sis atm, You will only see the standings between you/your corp/your alliance and them/their corp/their alliance.

You do not see if X pilot has only standings with the starter agent and is therefore probably an alt.

You do not see that Y pilot has -10.00 with the blood raiders and claims to be one of them.

You do not see the agents that people are missioning for, requiring the use of locators to find people.

If I understand this, all personal standings are invisible to players but corporate and alliance are visible?

When you go to "standings" at the moment, there are 3 tabs. "Liked By" "Disliked By" "Relationship".

On sisi, there is only 1, which corresponds to the current "relationship"

This goes for all things.

Pilots, Corporations, Alliances.

You will only see the relationship between you and them.


FURTHERMORE NPC CORPS AND FACTIONS ARE ALSO AFFECTED

You CANNOT see that e.g. Amarr Empire is liked by the Ammatar and disliked by the Minmatar.

Hnn.

Over all this is a move towards the positive, I think. It will certainly kill what relevancy standings had to roleplayers, thus putting all relevancy upon their reputation.

[Casiella]

Unsure how I feel about it from a roleplay perspective.

From the perspective of intel-gathering, this makes things a little more difficult, but nobody said this would be easy.

[Ulphus]

Probably more annoying will be for corps (like ours) that have certain standings expectations, like for giving insta-JC access for newbies, highsec POS anchoring, or different RP reasons. It's either API verification or take them at their word that they meet, or are working to improve, the wanted standings instead of the simple click and peek that can be done as soon as someone says, "Hi. I'd like a job."

Another possibility is giving them prospect employment for a week and then checking the corp standings with various people you care about. Assuming that you can still see the make up of corp standings, it will show you all the pilots in your corp who have standings to that NPC corp and what those standings are.

Of course, it means letting them in for a week...

[Saede Riordan]

thats a bit annoying, especially since I worked hard for my angel standings >_<

although, maybe there will be a way to claim loyalty to a faction and have it display that...I doubt it though

[Ghost Hunter]

thats a bit annoying, especially since I worked hard for my angel standings >_<

although, maybe there will be a way to claim loyalty to a faction and have it display that...I doubt it though

Medals!

MEDALSSSS

Because CCP don't use them often enough.

[Louella Dougans]

Is it the Full API you need to see standings ?

[Ken]

No, you can see them with a limited API, at least currently.