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Saede Riordan

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Hidden Symbology
« on: 11 Mar 2011, 10:31 »

I'm really not sure if this is in my head or not, but it seemed interesting enough to share

Something really interesting I've recently noticed:
look at these two symbols next to each other:

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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #1 on: 11 Mar 2011, 10:47 »

To follow up...

http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1003/Amarr_symbols.JPG

The six symbols from Signs of Faith chronicle.
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #2 on: 11 Mar 2011, 12:50 »

By Jove I think you're onto it.  ;)  Though uh... you might want to double check which one is the chicken and which one is the egg.

Just food for thought.
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #3 on: 11 Mar 2011, 12:53 »

By Jove I think you're onto it.  ;)
All we have is a rough shape in common, not onto anything yet :p

Wonder what the shape is supposed to be. A bull? The devil?

edit: Ho'dup... a bull?

From Ray of Matar:

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Mattmar rose to his feet and the conductor placed a black mantle around his head and shoulders, covering him completely. It would be removed once the mark had appeared. Everyone waited in anticipation; the minutes ticked by. Finally the conductor declared that the mark had appeared and removed the mantle. Mattmar looked down, then turned towards the crowd. The bull-mark, the horned triangle, was sitting squarely in the middle of his chest. It was the ultimate place for such a mark. Mattmar beamed with pride when the crowd enthusiastically applauded. He took his place on the plateau among those already tested, his haughty manners disgusting Karin.

Oh god connections! The voluval being a secret Jovian genotype monitoring method is starting to make more sense... :|
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #4 on: 11 Mar 2011, 12:57 »

edit: Ho'dup... a bull?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk

AMAR.UTU, or AMAR.UD.

Amarrian... Udorian...

Also, Marduk being associated with the planet Jupiter...
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #5 on: 11 Mar 2011, 13:20 »

Viddy viddy intedesting...

It would seem we keep coming back to the ancient Babylonians. I hate to bring it up, but... Enheduanna was from around that era :F
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #6 on: 11 Mar 2011, 14:44 »

So we have one basic shape, seen a number of times in different guises. That shape is a hollow polygon, with horns. Something interesting is that each shape is distinctive enough that other cultures stop seeing it within each other. People don't normally look at the Angel and Jovian symbols side by side. People don't normally make the connection between the amarrian symbol and the Ray of Matar. I think its obvious the Jovian symbol came first, and , however, my mind comes back to something that, yes, I know has been discussed before:

Quote from: Dominations corp description
Little is known about the identities of the leaders of the Angel Cartel, though it is understood they come from all the races.

And this:

Quote from: heaven chronicle
The majority of the Jovian population relocated in the Motherships. Those showing any sign of the Disease were left behind to die.

Being Left behind to die, does not me that they did.

But lets step back from that. I think...fuck, holy crap.


half the symbols in eve can be reduced to a horned hollow shape.
Jovian symbol, Cartel symbols, Amarrian symbols, Ray of Matar, Guristas Bunny, Blood Raider Skull, Ammatar Mandate, Thukker Tribe

But I don't think these are of...well, what we think of as Jovian...in origin. I think its something older then this. We're going deeper.

In the symbols we all see in eve, the horns or crescent all feature the polygon dot across or below the horns, which makes sense, looking at it in the context of the "Signs of Faith" chronicle. (incidentally this is something I think I unconsciously realized when designing the Risen Angels symbol, since its "risen" angels, the dot is above the horns)
where else is the dot above the horned shape?
The Oruze Construct.
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #7 on: 11 Mar 2011, 15:15 »

I see the diverse spread of this symbol as subtle evidence of Jovian meddling in each of these societies.

Brings up another question: what is the enemy of the bull? Did Marduk have some kind of antagonist-god?

Enheduanna was a priestess of Inanna, whose sign was an eight-pointed star.

edit: Aaaaaaaaaand how many points would this have, if the circle were complete?
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #8 on: 11 Mar 2011, 15:37 »

Everybody check their totems.
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #9 on: 11 Mar 2011, 18:10 »

Hehehe, you're missing the point.   :twisted:

The Jove?  No no no...

"7 The sefrim offered unto the emperor a present from God as one brother to another: Ametat the Scepter and Avetat the Crown, showing the great pleasure God had in the earthly work of the emperor."
- The Scriptures, Chapter I of the Epitoth

::Whistles innocently.::

In other words, if the Amarr and the Gallente have languages that share root words, and those root words are from the first settlers of New Eden...
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #10 on: 11 Mar 2011, 18:46 »

Hehehe, you're missing the point.   :twisted:

The Jove?  No no no...

"7 The sefrim offered unto the emperor a present from God as one brother to another: Ametat the Scepter and Avetat the Crown, showing the great pleasure God had in the earthly work of the emperor."
- The Scriptures, Chapter I of the Epitoth

::Whistles innocently.::

In other words, if the Amarr and the Gallente have languages that share root words, and those root words are from the first settlers of New Eden...
I'm not following :|
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #11 on: 11 Mar 2011, 20:57 »

Its a symbol, within two symbols, that's a larger symbol in total.

You just got INCEPTION'D.
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #12 on: 11 Mar 2011, 23:39 »

Sometimes thoughts of my wife manifest themselves as runaway trains.

Also, seriously Nikita.  You understand the implications, right?  The real, ultimate, most dire realization of it all, correct?  The deepest, darkest secret of the EVE storyline?

You have all the evidence.  The poison apple, waiting for you to eat, as Hona says in The Burning Life.

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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #13 on: 12 Mar 2011, 01:24 »

This is getting silly.
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Re: Hidden Symbology
« Reply #14 on: 12 Mar 2011, 01:51 »

I think I get it.
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