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Author Topic: Informality and the use of first names among strangers  (Read 2418 times)

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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #15 on: 10 Apr 2013, 18:26 »

So how do you address a stranger if you can't use Mr/miss ?

If you don't know their name? "Excuse me." (Or the Norwegian equivalent, anyway.)


"Hey," also works.  Assuming you're playing a character who'd use "Hey."
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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #16 on: 10 Apr 2013, 18:26 »

For whatever reason, my characters have always combined gender-specific honorifics with a person's first name. Not really sure why.
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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #17 on: 10 Apr 2013, 22:09 »

Something inside me, the player, screams to answer "Huh ? Do I know you ?"
I actually do that sometimes. I did it when Istvaan approached Ché at the Silas' festus, which prompted an entertaining response from Istvaan.
I don't usually do it in The Summit or other channels where I just assume that they can see who is connected and who is broadcasting, but when interacting with characters in the flesh, he will likely ask the question, if only in thought. The main reason is that he has trouble remembering names and faces.
But it does not matter wether the first or last name is used in this case, it will get the same response from Ché, and he actually prefers to be be called by his first name. For this reason, he is more likely to think he might have talked with someone before if they use his first name.

Ché can also forget if someone has allowed him to use informal address, and will then revert to formal address to be on the safe side.
If Ché wants to address someone he doesn't know, but he heard someone else addressing that person by first name, he will sometimes use that name if it's urgent, or if he mistakes that name for a surname.
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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #18 on: 11 Apr 2013, 15:44 »

Something inside me, the player, screams to answer "Huh ? Do I know you ?"
I actually do that sometimes. I did it when Istvaan approached Ché at the Silas' festus, which prompted an entertaining response from Istvaan.
I don't usually do it in The Summit or other channels where I just assume that they can see who is connected and who is broadcasting, but when interacting with characters in the flesh, he will likely ask the question, if only in thought. The main reason is that he has trouble remembering names and faces.
But it does not matter wether the first or last name is used in this case, it will get the same response from Ché, and he actually prefers to be be called by his first name. For this reason, he is more likely to think he might have talked with someone before if they use his first name.

Ché can also forget if someone has allowed him to use informal address, and will then revert to formal address to be on the safe side.
If Ché wants to address someone he doesn't know, but he heard someone else addressing that person by first name, he will sometimes use that name if it's urgent, or if he mistakes that name for a surname.

I do the same thing. Shin'll give someone a jaundiced look and say something like "Pardon me, but do I know you?"

Shin is a bit of an odd duck, though. She used to be extremely informal with everyone, and still tends to behave this way. At the same time, Zaitsev groomed her extensively while she was in the Omerta Syndicate, so she sometimes falls back into these extremely old-fashioned modes of Caldari etiquette.

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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #19 on: 11 Apr 2013, 16:36 »

Morwen generally tries to be friendly and polite when she interacts with people. (Obviously this isn't always how it ends up, but she makes an effort at it, honest!) As a result, here's how she does it:
- If someone does not introduce themselves otherwise or have an outwardly obvious preference, she will opt for a first name if she can find it.
- If she can't find a first name, she'll go with the most appropriate title she can find (this sometimes ends up being "Miss" or "Mister", but may vary based on the person's origin/affiliations) and surname. For example, Amarrians who she can find out are Holders or similar, she will often opt for Lord/Lady <surname> first.
- If someone is already being actively addressed in a particular manner and appears to approve of it or at least be comfortable with it, she will start with that right off the bat.
- If someone asks her to use a particular form of address, she will always attempt to remember to use that instead.

As for people addressing her, she's similar there.
- She generally prefers people use her first name, and will typically introduce herself by her first name only, except when it's business.
- She'll accept people using her surname if a title is attached to it. Whether it's Miss, Mlle., Director, Captain, Pilot, Saategashira (her old Veto rank), or something else appropriate she doesn't care, as long as one is used. She gets intensely annoyed by people using her last name without a title, because she associates it with people who (in her mind) did not treat her very well or very kindly.
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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #20 on: 13 Apr 2013, 03:57 »

I'm not shy about correcting people to call Lasairiona, Lasa instead. But I don't care if people call me Lasa or Miss Raske. If people have an issue, they should say so!
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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #21 on: 13 Apr 2013, 07:48 »

If memory serves, I have managed to avoid this issue so far. Might have slipped once or twice (though not as I can recall) but I usually make an effort to start on a last-name basis, and while I have not done 'face to face' RP in quite a while, I try to keep in mind that when you meet someone in the flesh, there is no convenient auto-ID running to tell you who and what they are. You ask, unless you recognize them from somewhere else.

Have also avoided this happening to me mostly by the fact that my new char bio is not done yet so I have not updated the in-game bio since before I started to actively RP on BB again. I should look into fixing that, I guess...

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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #22 on: 13 Apr 2013, 08:07 »

You have no head-ware giving you an auto identification when out of pod? :o
Inherent implants does provide that as a standard with all their memory augmentations and they have a great customer service. ;)
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Re: Informality and the use of first names among strangers
« Reply #23 on: 15 Apr 2013, 19:38 »

Seems I miss all the interesting threads these days, the days fly by too fast. :bash:

From Sak's perspective, while she enjoys being given flattering titles, they're irrelevant in the end.  The only true titles that mean anything in the long-run are a person's name, and their family's name.  They are diminished or reinforced with every fight, every argument, every joule of energy sunk into effort and exertion.  Even then, what other people think of you is irrelevant, but for the few you respect and care about, and above all else, yourself.

Not to mention that at the end of the day, why be formal?  All capsuleers are demigods, roaming the skies with fortunes and weaponry that could level empires of old.  Why address someone as "Miss", or "Mister", other than to just be polite?  Even then, why is it assumed that one is being impolite if a first name is used?  In short, she doesn't care about titles, and if someone gets offended by that, fine by her.

... of course, she'd be the first one to go on about how she's some goddess of death, and how her lethality and beauty should make her important.  Just a bit egotistic, right? :P
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