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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #1 on: 21 Nov 2011, 07:31 »

Science be praised. \o/
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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #2 on: 21 Nov 2011, 08:15 »

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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #3 on: 21 Nov 2011, 08:16 »

RNA treatments through reconfigured viruses were promising the last years so I guess it was finally to be expected, but I am very glad it is now more than a possibility than before where nobody had a clear idea of when a treatment would be possible.

Anyway emphasis put on the "CAN" : yes, this can be the last generation, but at least for rich countries, because I highly doubt that will be achieved in a close future for third world countries, where the disease is the most active.
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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #4 on: 21 Nov 2011, 12:42 »

This video left me with a big fat grin on my face.

I had a whole lot to say about the South African AIDS/HIV policy, but this video just left me with a big fat grin on my face.

What does give hope is the fact that while the ARV's may not cure the disease, with a 96% decrease in risk of transferal it means that with continued education there is a lot of hope for future generations.

RNA treatments through reconfigured viruses were promising the last years so I guess it was finally to be expected, but I am very glad it is now more than a possibility than before where nobody had a clear idea of when a treatment would be possible.

Anyway emphasis put on the "CAN" : yes, this can be the last generation, but at least for rich countries, because I highly doubt that will be achieved in a close future for third world countries, where the disease is the most active.

RNA treatment with reconfigured viruses. Is this the same process as the current ARV's that are distributed free through clinics, or is it a more advanced and/or experimental treatment?

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Lyn Farel

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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #5 on: 21 Nov 2011, 15:44 »


RNA treatments through reconfigured viruses were promising the last years so I guess it was finally to be expected, but I am very glad it is now more than a possibility than before where nobody had a clear idea of when a treatment would be possible.

Anyway emphasis put on the "CAN" : yes, this can be the last generation, but at least for rich countries, because I highly doubt that will be achieved in a close future for third world countries, where the disease is the most active.

RNA treatment with reconfigured viruses. Is this the same process as the current ARV's that are distributed free through clinics, or is it a more advanced and/or experimental treatment?


I honestly do not know. Too little info in this link. I just know that one the last things I heard about HIV treatment was that cutting a gene in immune cells could offer a new way to treat hiv infections.

But I highly doubt it is the same thing they are talking about here.
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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #6 on: 22 Nov 2011, 11:42 »

Last generation with AIDS, or first generation with terrible zombie virus? Only time will tell.

(Seriously though this is awesome)
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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #7 on: 22 Nov 2011, 14:48 »

I'm a bit torn between whether this is good news or outright horrible news. The good news is of course that those carrying the HIV can be treated. The bad news is that those who would need it the most will not be treated, since they are not rich, influential, or possibly even take care about themselves. The virus can still spread undetected (before the carrier gets tested), and if it is "treatable" with affordable medicine, even the deterrent of getting potentially deadly disease will vanish, which may increase the risk of it spreading. Though I guess there's a good amount of people who are willing to take the risk (such as folks going to doctor to get antibiotics for whatever and then save them just in case they'd get a disease during their trip to Thailand). Of course, governments could budget money for check ups for the people having the greatest risk and provide the treatment to people carrying the HIV. If they have the money. Though the UN could fix that by providing the medicine. Unless, of course, the government doesn't accept such evil communist plots to taint our precious bodily fluids, enable gays or whatever.

Assuming it won't be public domain (serious good karma if the researchers did that), it'll be pretty good business for the corporation to patent it though, since it's guaranteed that the patients will take the medicine for the rest of their lives (if I understood right). Call me a cynic if you want, but the drug industry doesn't want cures, it wants treatments. In the last years, I've heard several times about a potential cure for cancer. But those won't be picked up, since the risk/reward ratio is off. Cures might not pass trials, and even if they do work as advertised, they might not pay enough to warrant pouring more money into trials and further research.
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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #8 on: 24 Nov 2011, 11:51 »

... Assuming it won't be public domain (serious good karma if the researchers did that), it'll be pretty good business for the corporation to patent it though, since it's guaranteed that the patients will take the medicine for the rest of their lives (if I understood right). Call me a cynic if you want, but the drug industry doesn't want cures, it wants treatments. In the last years, I've heard several times about a potential cure for cancer. But those won't be picked up, since the risk/reward ratio is off. Cures might not pass trials, and even if they do work as advertised, they might not pay enough to warrant pouring more money into trials and further research.

I just want to address some of the perceived negativity regarding the study that was carried out.

The study was conducted to test the ability of ARV's to prevent the spread of the virus. It has absolutely nothing to do with curing the virus. The ARV's are the same ones that are currently available free of charge in clinics within South Africa to every person that tests positive with the virus (salute to our government). It is not a new drug, or an experimental cure. It is not patented or held back by what people want to make sound like evil pharmaceutical companies. It is the ARV's currently available for free at South African clinics.

The theory is not to cure the virus, but that may have found is way to prevent new infections though transmission to new born babies (this has been proven effective in the past) and to partners of people with HIV. The virus in already infected persons can be managed so that those people can live ordinary lives and new infections can be prevented. It may be possible to significantly reduce the transmission of the virus which could lead to its end (similar past campaigns with other diseases have been successful, and small pox and polio are not as feared and common as they once were).

Of course, making ARV's available to people who are not HIV positive would require additional funding which may not be available, and it would require additional education regarding the disease and the sigma attached to it. It would also require governments to step up the current ARV roll-out programs and education programs.

But, yes, the study is largely positive.
 

 
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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #9 on: 26 Nov 2011, 10:42 »


The last generation with AIDS?

Not a chance, while shit like this is still happening : http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16117574

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Re: This CAN be the last generation with AIDS.
« Reply #10 on: 26 Nov 2011, 10:49 »


The last generation with AIDS?

Not a chance, while shit like this is still happening : http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16117574

"When I asked how I would know whether I had been cured or not, I was told people respond differently, but "after you had been prayed for and anointed with holy water during the special Sunday service, you will experience some pains in your body or pass urine more frequently or have some diarrhoea".

"This should not alarm you because it means the HIV is coming out of your body," I was told."

Fuck... religion! Seriously, get the fuck out of my god damn medicine!

URDOINITRONG!
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