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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 19:51  
Started by Gesakaarin - Last post by Sakura Nihil
I find the best conversations come out of things that we can change, like relationships, fights we had, people's opinions on things, etc.  These things are fluid and can evolve over time, focus on them rather that static things that CCP won't touch for years at a time.

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 15:47  
Started by Gesakaarin - Last post by Graelyn
What the hell else is there to talk about?

"How about that political situation that will never change?"
"Still there."
"Grr."
"Making ISK?"
"Yup."
"Me too."
"Are we ever going to fight each other?"
"Sure, my 3 pilots and your 4 pilots can burn down the Galaxy."
"lol"

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 14:28  
Started by Stutzer - Last post by Utari Onzo
I. Basic Info
  • Characters: Utari Onzo, Kailen Heleneto, Miguel Onzo, Thiago Gallius + others
  • Primary Character: Utari Onzo. Don't even think about getting much, if any, RP time with the others.
  • Owned Channels: N/A
  • Preferred Channels: The Good Word

II. RP Style
  • Amount of RP (light, medium, heavy): Medium to Heavy. I try to tie almost all my in game actions into my RP, and likewise try to let my RP influence the kinds of in game actions I'd take.


  • Views on RP combat and injuries: Good stuff when done well.


  • Views on IC romance: Been about as big a part to my character's development as just about every other interaction. I will continue to be open to exploring this side of my character till I eventually win EvE or life, which ever comes first. And since it seems most people are clarifying here on the whole ERP thing, I will engage in ERP under the strict caveat that it's tied into the character development. That is to say, my character is legitimately interested in exchanging bodily fluids with your character and not just having ERP for the sake of someone PMing me wanting fap material on tap.


  • Views on non-romantic RP (family ties, etc): Absolutely enjoy them. Already have strong ties with a couple of characters through oaths and the like.


  • Views on lore: Prime Fiction is King, but just as with scifi and Science, learn the laws and understand them. Then you may bend them at your leisure.


III. Other Info
  • Languages: English
  • Timezone: UK/EUTZ
  • Active Cycle: 16-17:00 > 22-23:00 eve time most weekdays. Mostly day EUTZ weekends. You may need to poke me for RP out of game though if I'm on a 'thin' week for logging in, I get bored of eve easily these days.
  • Contact info: EvEMail, private conversation, shooting me in space, slack (much harder as I deleted it from my phone but still have it on my PC)
  • Additional Details: Interact as you will with me IC both positive and negative, but be classy OOC. I have little time or patience for OOC bitching.

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 13:09  
Started by Gesakaarin - Last post by Stutzer
I guess I can wade into this just a bit. It will end up being a ramble and might miss the point entirely.

By now I suppose it is clear that I, as a player, am highly sequestered from the sort of activity that might give rise to this conversation. Part of the reason I thought a playstyle thread would be useful is that it would provide an OOC tool (for those who wish such a thing) to allow players to curate the content available when they play. Incidentally, this touches on my primary gripe with the Discourse forums, but that is another matter. In any case, yeah, it is metagamey, but as much as some of us would like to have a slow-building, organic, and complex narrative experience, the RL time simply isn't there. Few things are more disappointing than wasted time.

Some players see themselves as a wallet balance, or as their Jabber/Mumble privileges, or a series of brackets and flashing lights against a background nebula, or an alliance logo, or a K/D%, or even as their Carbon sculpt. They log in to acquire whatever validates their justification for playing, and it's not inherently vicious that those things don't necessarily overlap between players. I certainly won't fault them for finding enjoyment in a thing and seeking it out, but I also don't have to involve myself in it. I think that players with disparate interests can interact in enjoyable ways as long as there is some OOC communication and willingness to 'transgress' the notion of the sandbox.

I do realize that I contradict myself, since the curation of my own desired content involves a measure of self-alienation from potential communication. It is merely a measure of efficiency.

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 09:19  
Started by Julianni Avala - Last post by Lunarisse Aspenstar
If Luna even had an inkling of this IC, given her suspicions to date about a certain monocle-wearer and the blogged about lead character - #smugface #soapopera

Ofc I am sure it's something completely different than what she suspects!

Keep up the fun stories!

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 05:22  
Started by Julianni Avala - Last post by Utari Onzo
Is this the spoiler for a new season of Spoops?

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 05:06  
Started by Julianni Avala - Last post by Kasuko
Schemes!

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 01:57  
Started by Julianni Avala - Last post by Julianni Avala
Booooooop!

New post!

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 on: 26 Jun 2017, 01:53  
Started by Gesakaarin - Last post by Gesakaarin
legitimate RP upsets them beyond the keyboard.

There is no such as "legitimate RP" in an environment where the only consensus is not what does or does not constitute either a) legitimate RP or b) illegitimate RP but rather only that the phrase, "You're doing it wrong," As forbidden, means there exist no mutually held standards and thus questions of legitimacy in RP are to be considered wholly irrelevant. Equally so, there can't be, "Good" RP or "Shit" RP just RP without any semblance of quality or attribution to a commonly held standard.

I can't agree that the two are incompatible, because we have over a decade of evidence that the two have co-existed in EVE.  If you want an example, look at Star Fraction, circa... I want to say 2007?  Around the time we were on campaign against PIE/CVA/AM and pre-Alliance Tournament IV...  It was chock full of RPers, some of whom were in the first category (I'd argue like Bacch, Ituralde, Cosmo, and a few others) and others who were in the second category (like Jade, Tyzz, and myself).

I will note they were all in the same Alliance, which misses my central point: The differences in RP styles and the potential end results of such once you introduce the conflict dynamics inherent to the gameplay within Eve.

If a confrontational dynamic occurs within RP with people who are so wholly incapable as to be able to separate themselves from their own character, and who believe that since they RP in that fashion, then that's how everyone else must RP then they're probably going to think that by their own standards the people they disagree with must also believe in what their character believes, and are for all intents and purposes the player themselves.

This makes any semblance of OOC/IC separation coming out of the mouths of such people nothing more than a trite platitude to cover up their own lack of creativity and when they try to pillory others -- their own hypocrisy. Never seen such "Roleplayers" in action? Damn, I guess you've never been accused of being a RL people smuggler for roleplaying a POW exchange with Sansha's Nation; or on that note accused of being a RL abduction specialist for a messianic cult; or maybe the assumption you're a member of the far right and "redpilled" because your character happens to be a Caldari who believes in supporting an authoritarian regime.

The fact that a lot of roleplayers over-invest emotionally in the their characters that they're wholly incapable to divorce themselves from their own avatars certainly isn't any news to me. The whole method of my accused trolling with Veik the past few years has been wholly dependent on taking advantage of this failure point with people who cannot discern what is real and fake, what is fiction and what is true not just with their own characters but with my own -- all the while remaining fully in-character.

The fact that it has proven so effective, that the outpourings of salt so copious from so many means that regardless of any professions to the contrary the method of personal self-insertion into a character is the prevalent methodology of RP among the community and as a result is completely, wholly, and irrevocably defunct due to people incapable of taking a step back from their character, looking at a mirror and asking themselves the question, "Maybe it's not other people trolling me, I'm just trolling myself?"

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 on: 25 Jun 2017, 22:23  
Started by Gesakaarin - Last post by Sakura Nihil
I can't agree that the two are incompatible, because we have over a decade of evidence that the two have co-existed in EVE.  If you want an example, look at Star Fraction, circa... I want to say 2007?  Around the time we were on campaign against PIE/CVA/AM and pre-Alliance Tournament IV...  It was chock full of RPers, some of whom were in the first category (I'd argue like Bacch, Ituralde, Cosmo, and a few others) and others who were in the second category (like Jade, Tyzz, and myself).

It's not a problem, in my mind - regardless of whether your character reflects yourself OOG, or if they're far removed from yourself in personality, when you RP them, you RP them to the best of your ability.  No one's going to be perfect, especially when it comes to minutia (such as their favorite drink, type of music they enjoy, holos they watch, etc.), so you fill in the gaps as best you can with what you are familiar with IRL, and assume there will be future analogues in EVE.

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