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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => Player Driven Content => Topic started by: Nissui on 17 Apr 2017, 11:44
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This post left intentionally vague. Details to follow soon™️.
Basically, a spring-summer event for whatever interest is present, wherein data collection from around the cluster will be the focus. Lowsec and Nullsec will be the locations. Being able to create multiple contracts will be helpful for participants, as will good Interceptor/CovOps skills. Alphas and alts are free to join of course.
Key point: there will be no data overlap, meaning participants who produce duplicate data will go unpaid. Coordination with other participants will ensure (hopefully?) everyone is rewarded for their collection. Or... perhaps skullduggery will ensue.
Reward will be in ISK until the PLEX changes, at which point the reward will shift to PLEX granules. That's CCP's soon™️, not mine.
The event ends when I run out of money. Related events will follow thereafter.
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I'd be willing to have I-RED Sponsor the event that way you don't have to run out of isk. Naturally I'm interested.
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Well I'm all about exploration so I'm interested.
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Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Consider me possibly interested.
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Sounds like a fresh change from my normal EVE life. :)
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Exploration is my jam! colour me interested :)
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As a wormhole inhabitant, I'm up for this.
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Reward will be in ISK until the PLEX changes, at which point the reward will shift to PLEX granules. That's CCP's soon™️, not mine.
Guess it's 09 May, then. Will probably take time off work since I have final papers due that week anyway. Will probably post details here before IC posting.
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First, apologies if my interest check was misleading. I understood that ‘Explorers & Couriers’ might not mean the same thing to all players.
Second, this is for fun. Reading on, I would ask that you keep three words in mind: science, fiction, game.
So, the sum of what I am seeking with the event:
- I am buying astronomical observational data of new stellar visuals, grouped by Constellation
- Observational data should be 1+ Data Sheet and/or Report (ingame item will be a prop)
- This item constitutes a ‘Report’, which will be contracted
- ‘Report’ has two additional components: visual capture and observation
- These items together will be compensated, with proof of payment made available as needed
The data will be tabulated in the Stellar Object Melioroptics Augment Dataset, which will be a publicly accessible living document. A sample of the intended document can be found here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FyB4Rq5XKrj_Ih9xu4Ini7RG3uwTZG7G-fQrDAEeKCc/edit#gid=0).
Publishing credit will be given to the reporters should they wish it. Once a Constellation has been documented in the dataset, no duplicate or subsequent Reports for that Constellation will be accepted. Observations can be further corroborated or corrected, but the point is not 100% modern-era astronomical accuracy, but to enjoy a new feature of the game out in space for those who would like to do so. My hope is that people will team up, coordinate, compete, etc.
Here’s how the process will (hopefully) work:
1. Pilot wishes to participate
2. Participating pilot travels to an undocumented Constellation, confirmed by SOMAD
3. Participating pilot performs visual capture using this scheme (http://i.imgur.com/j0kJpu9.jpg)
4. Pilot submits report
4.1 Upload of all visual captures of all stellar objects in constellation to a retrievable galnet link
4.2 Contract ‘Report: [Constellation Name]’ to Hetu Hegirin
4.2.1 EITHER Contract prop item from station within the constellation being documented
4.2.2 OR Contract from bookmark of jetcan containing data sheet within the constellation being documented
5. UIVIU confirms receipt of report and galnet link
5.1 Visual captures are validated
5.2 Coordinates of contract are verified
6. UIVIU processes payment and acknowledges receipt
7. Report is documented in the dataset
“PAYMENT?!” you say. I’m looking into the PLEX granule situation, but that detail should be sorted in the first day or so of the event. For now, I’m leaning toward:
- 5 Granules for visual captures
- 15 Granules for captures + observations
This presumes that I will be allowed to contract Granules at all, which I'm not certain is possible with the Vault. In any case, even the minimum threshold of success should yield a return cover the loss of a scanning frig + modules.
Not all of New Eden will be considered for this event. The following list of exempted Constellations (http://i.imgur.com/M8a7mNa.png) will not be included in this dataset. Anoikis will not be included in this dataset either, but will play a role in the third phase of the program, should we get enough data to proceed with the second phase, which will be detailed, interest permitting. Commas.
I think that’s the long and short of it, but I’m sure there are details I will need to clarify and holes I will need to patch. Please feel free to ask questions if you like and I will try to answer them.
Or maybe it’s just another shit idear. I'm going to bed.
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I think it would be better for participation if you could submit more granular pieces of data (systems instead of constellations). I understand this could increase YOUR workload quite a lot, but maybe you could structure the rewards so that it is more profitable to submit larger sets of data.
I think surveying an entire constellation can be a bit hard to find time for. At least, speaking personally, I would find it hard to fit into my EVE activities.
Anyway, it is fine to start with either approach, and then adjust to the participation: allow smaller data sets if there is little participation, or restrict to bigger data sets if there is lots of participation.
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This is good feedback, thanks Che.
In test, a constellation took about 6-8 minutes to image capture in an Interceptor, about 3 minutes more in a CovOps, each having their own advantages in avoiding obstacles. When providing observations, about 30 seconds per star was sufficient. So the reasoning was that, ideally, 15 minutes work could yield about 30M ISK, which is not too shabby for pilots who like to poke around. They might make more in an anomaly, sure. They could also get carbon. They could also do both anoms and observations in tandem.
Individual stars would have to be somewhat low payout, like 1M, to incentivize 'complete' reports for 5-7 stars. However, there is also no rush to fully flesh out the dataset. Pilots could piece together submissions over time.
I suppose I will sit on this a while longer. Back to work.
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Yes, well, you have to get to the constellation first, though, which is likely the biggest time sink.
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Really like this idea. A great world builder, and one I'm definitely hoping to get my alt, Emiri, involved in. Great job putting it together!
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Sounds fun. I am not sure if I completely understands it, but still fun.
I can also put some isk into the prize pool if needed.
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May I link this in Signal Cartel's forum? Many of our pilots enjoy this sort of thing and it might give you access to a bigger dataset.
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May I link this in Signal Cartel's forum? Many of our pilots enjoy this sort of thing and it might give you access to a bigger dataset.
No permission required, the IGS post is public and at-will.
It would be great to have you all contributing. Maybe not all. (°ー°〃)
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I was just coming to suggest SC for this. You might have your data sooner than you expect... :bear:
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I've posted a summary and a link here. I hope it helps, it's a fun idea.
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Cheers, boss. For the first time, my wallet knows real fear.
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Got to say... this gives me a bit of incentive to run scout around my neck of the woods...
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Oh fun :) Hopefully I will get some time this weekend to work on this.
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Hey, all.
So... I think I've got another installment of this brewing, but it will probably take me a week or so to noodle out the particulars. Couple initial notes:
- Won't be a continuation of SOMAD (though that is ongoing)
- Will involve in-game exploration mechanics
- Will have a similar 'Reporting' scheme to SOMAD
- Fewer individual opportunities mean proportionally larger payouts
If I get a few X-ups in thread I will go ahead and start organizing. If you have questions that won't blow OpSec, fire away.
o7