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Title: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 11 Oct 2016, 20:40
I am currently putting together materials for a short story or short serial project. My intention is to set the story on Villore, the current seat of government of the Gallente Federation. However, I have a very hard time finding any kind of lore bits about Villore despite the system's importance.

Does anyone have any sources for me to refer to? It could be PF, wiki articles, even player-created stories. I do not mind collaborating with other writers to ensure that whatever I am writing is consistent with what's already around.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Nissui on 12 Oct 2016, 11:54
Source: nothing.
Chronicles: few mentions in name only.
Region description: a joke.
Senate/Supreme Court corp descriptions: nothing.

Can't say I can blame you for the trouble, seeing what there is to work with. Maybe focus on FW alliance history, like GMVA. Certainly more viable than PF. Failing that, make shit up. Who's to refute you, CCP?
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 12 Oct 2016, 20:50
Source: nothing.
Chronicles: few mentions in name only.
Region description: a joke.
Senate/Supreme Court corp descriptions: nothing.

Can't say I can blame you for the trouble, seeing what there is to work with. Maybe focus on FW alliance history, like GMVA. Certainly more viable than PF. Failing that, make shit up. Who's to refute you, CCP?

They don't even have a 'capital city' name!

Story's mostly about baseliners though, so I guess I must put my Bullshit level V to good use.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Alain Colcer on 13 Oct 2016, 12:58
didnt the eve fiction portal had something about it? backstage had a copy of it...
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 13 Oct 2016, 19:09
didnt the eve fiction portal had something about it? backstage had a copy of it...

That was the first place I searched. All I got out of it was the Gallente Federation centre of government moved from Gallente Prime to Villore. That's it.

Source has no details whatsoever.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Louella Dougans on 15 Oct 2016, 00:36
(https://media.makeameme.org/created/politicians-politicians-everywhere-2e78nu.jpg)
(http://www.thequotepedia.com/images/93/politics-is-the-art-of-looking-for-trouble-finding-it-everywhere-diagnosing-it-incorrectly-politics-quote.jpg)

As the central political world of a multi-stellar system, there are going to be all kinds of politicians, lobbyists, campaigners, pressure groups, disgruntled petitioners, and agency officials, everywhere.

And journalists too.

Every nightclub, bar, restaurant, or other social venue, is likely to be crawling with them, all looking for the angle that'll get them to their political goals, squashing their rivals beneath them.

It's also likely to be among the higher-tech Gallente worlds, so drone police, hovercars, avant-garde fashion, and things of that nature, are going to be pretty common, I think.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 15 Oct 2016, 02:11
I'm also thinking that since there is those Black Eagles folks running around now, there's probably cameras everywhere. Discrete and well-hidden cameras.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Vieve on 21 Oct 2016, 07:22
I did some digging through the old blog stuff (which I off-lined, but I've failed to delete it all yet).  Here's some random Villore-related text that may or may not be useful.  "Garda" is a name I used for a suburb of the capital.

She hadn't missed Villore Prime's suburban artificial gardens-within-a-desert views, but she couldn't deny that she'd gotten a nice one.

[...]

It'd take even the best of them an hour to get to the building from the spaceport through early rush traffic -- not that she could say for certain that the Party wouldn't risk hiring resources that were already planetside. It didn't seem likely, considering that it was difficult to breathe on Villore Prime without tripping over a reporter, but...

[...]


"Spaceport," she told the cab's AI, which was a blank orb of greenish light until it identified her language choice. It then mutated into a blandly pleasant blend of male and female Gallente features.

"Arrivals or Departures?" it chirped.

The door shut, and the auto-harness buckled her in.


[...]

She was dreaming of home again. Garda, in ruins: its tidy tan-and-sienna-and-ochre-and-white cube houses, lush walled gardens and quiet streets after an orbital bombardment.

I've lost the original links to the pictures that inspired me, but here are some other ones:

Single Family Home (http://www.cubebreaker.com/desert-home-courtyard/ (http://www.cubebreaker.com/desert-home-courtyard/))
Office Building (http://www.contemporist.com/2013/10/06/dear-ginza-building-by-amano-design-office/dg_061013_04/ (http://www.contemporist.com/2013/10/06/dear-ginza-building-by-amano-design-office/dg_061013_04/))

The general take I had when decorating that bit of my sandbox was that Villore was the Federation's Brasilia.  It was designed to be the government center, whereas governmental centers more or less evolved on Gallente Prime, in the messy way things do.  So, it's a bit too clean, a bit too sterile.  The cities probably do have slums, but they've no doubt been turned into living art installations (convenient for politicians to pose in front of when they want to look like they care about social issues).
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 21 Oct 2016, 23:22
Every bit helps. Villore Prime's the capital city of the planet, I take it?

Story's going to take place in the city centre, featuring a Minmatar diner, and the slums or the Old Town district or whatever passes for it, in an abandoned automotive or semiconductor factory or warehouse or somesuch.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Vieve on 23 Oct 2016, 06:21
I was using Villore Prime as the name of the planet.  I believe there's another planet in the system named Moroses and it's possible that others there are also named (were I in-game these days, I could check, but I'm not).


I think the capitol might have a name, but I can't remember where I saw it.




Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Veiki on 23 Oct 2016, 10:48
I remember the seat of government in Villore being something like Libertalia or something equally gauche like that when they moved the capital from Luminaire.Don't quote me on that.

Given that, other cities are probably called things like Federalopolis, New Gallentia, and Las Libertad.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 23 Oct 2016, 21:36
I also like to add that my general impression of a Gallente city is the core worlds is that the general architecture follows a neo-Art Decor motif. Kind of like Transistor's Cloudbank.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Vieve on 24 Oct 2016, 11:49
Libertopolis.  The only reference I can find to it anymore is in Mark726's Eve Lore Survival Guide, which seems to think it's the name of the planet -- eh.  I'd definitely check the planet name in game.  That is, if I could.

Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Persephone Alleile on 26 Oct 2016, 09:14
Umm, I believe it's just called Villore IV in-game. But yeah I've seen the name of the capitol listed as Libertopolis somewhere or other.

As for architecture I'd imagine there's a lot of crystalline carbonide fronted buildings and curvy shapes that the Gallente seem to love.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Louella Dougans on 26 Oct 2016, 10:55
"Villore IV (better known as Libertopolis) is the symbolic capital world."

from: http://wiki.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?title=Government_of_the_Gallente_Federation&oldid=191814

there is a lot of stuff here :O
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Tressith_Sefira on 26 Oct 2016, 11:35
"Libertopolis  does seem to unfortunately be it's name, lol (and looking in game does not confirm planet name cannons or nicknames, as pointed out). And the link provided is most of what I know as well...  If the capital was named once, I haven't come across it, either I don't think. I know I never did get through everything that was/is available though.

The presidential seat also has another branch in lowsec, Ladister.

"Something something Ladister?" "

-My friend Aedre Lafisques
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Veiki on 26 Oct 2016, 12:28
So much freedom, all in one city.

It's like the U.S renaming Washington D.C to Freedom City of Liberty and having a pair of bald eagle statues clutching desert eagles towering over the drive into it.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Xepharious on 26 Oct 2016, 12:46
So much freedom, all in one city.

It's like the U.S renaming Washington D.C to Freedom City of Liberty and having a pair of bald eagle statues clutching desert eagles towering over the drive into it.

Perhaps the name itself was meant as a weapon against Caldari/Amarr. I can just imagine some Amarr lord trying to keep from dry-heaving while trying to utter the name.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Aradina on 26 Oct 2016, 14:18
So much freedom, all in one city.

It's like the U.S renaming Washington D.C to Freedom City of Liberty and having a pair of bald eagle statues clutching desert eagles towering over the drive into it.

Perhaps the name itself was meant as a weapon against Caldari/Amarr. I can just imagine some Amarr lord trying to keep from dry-heaving while trying to utter the name.

Giggling. You mean giggling.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Persephone Alleile on 26 Oct 2016, 14:50
I know a good cafe on Freedom Avenue in the Equality district of Libertopolis. Fair trade only of course.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Tressith_Sefira on 26 Oct 2016, 16:17
"I saw there were some questions about the Fed capitals?

We have four for the record

One symbolic, and then one for each branch of the government.

Libertopolis on Villore IV is the symbolic capital
 
Ladistier is the Executive capital

Villore is the Legislative capital

Parts is the Judicial capital"

-My friend Xun Yu
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 27 Oct 2016, 02:32
I know a good cafe on Freedom Avenue in the Equality district of Libertopolis. Fair trade only of course.

This is a joke, isn't it? Or you are actually serious?

So, we are going to pen Libertopolis down as the name of the capital city and the Villore IV itself, aren't we?
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Xepharious on 27 Oct 2016, 06:32

Giggling. You mean giggling.

Whoh.... I didn't even know Aradina was on here!?  Epic first post.  8)
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Alain Colcer on 27 Oct 2016, 10:33
Egalopolis (from "Egalite", french for equality).
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Persephone Alleile on 27 Oct 2016, 11:09
Is there also a Fraternopolis?
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 27 Oct 2016, 11:23
Is there also a Fraternopolis?
I misread this as Farternopolis and was about to comment that that is another name for Villore "because politicians" but then I read it again and went :|
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 27 Oct 2016, 18:26
"I saw there were some questions about the Fed capitals?

We have four for the record

One symbolic, and then one for each branch of the government.

Libertopolis on Villore IV is the symbolic capital
 
Ladistier is the Executive capital

Villore is the Legislative capital

Parts is the Judicial capital"

-My friend Xun Yu
Taking "separation of powers" serious literal, huh?
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 27 Oct 2016, 21:48
I really wasn't going to write about high-stakes political action, but hey, still something good to know about.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Louella Dougans on 27 Oct 2016, 23:19
Story's going to take place in the city centre, featuring a Minmatar diner, and the slums or the Old Town district or whatever passes for it, in an abandoned automotive or semiconductor factory or warehouse or somesuch.

I was thinking about this earlier, and relating to my own experience of working for local government...

There are probably a lot of facilities on Villore that will be owned by a government department, that have been lost in paperwork shuffling, such that higher levels of management are no longer aware that they own that particular facility.

Especially when there's departmental reorganisation.

So, it'd be possible there'd be a warehouse or a vehicle maintenance workshop or something, where the staff as well have been lost in paperwork shuffling, officially they were to be re-assigned, but somehow nobody told them that. They still turn up to work at the vehicle workshop, but there's nothing to actually do, since the vehicles are now going for maintenance to a different facility, except sit around and play cards or some such, but hey, they're still getting paid, because the payroll system recognises their attendance, so they're not going to rock the boat by asking questions.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 28 Oct 2016, 01:03
Story's going to take place in the city centre, featuring a Minmatar diner, and the slums or the Old Town district or whatever passes for it, in an abandoned automotive or semiconductor factory or warehouse or somesuch.

I was thinking about this earlier, and relating to my own experience of working for local government...

There are probably a lot of facilities on Villore that will be owned by a government department, that have been lost in paperwork shuffling, such that higher levels of management are no longer aware that they own that particular facility.

Especially when there's departmental reorganisation.

So, it'd be possible there'd be a warehouse or a vehicle maintenance workshop or something, where the staff as well have been lost in paperwork shuffling, officially they were to be re-assigned, but somehow nobody told them that. They still turn up to work at the vehicle workshop, but there's nothing to actually do, since the vehicles are now going for maintenance to a different facility, except sit around and play cards or some such, but hey, they're still getting paid, because the payroll system recognises their attendance, so they're not going to rock the boat by asking questions.
Sounds like I can use this apparent activity as cover for illegal activity. If they are willing to get their free salary they won't snitch on the other guy using the facility for illegal purposes.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 25 Jan 2017, 03:46
As about twenty site users probably know by now, I have started a fic that is set on Villore. As I am brainstorming the details for chapter 2, I had come to a realisation that I might probably need to name the public transport stations after politicians and would like to ask for advises on how to fabricate Gallente politician names.

Also, I had the idea that the main character will be travelling between districts via Hyperloop train to suggest the scale of the city. However, here's where I realise I might be hitting the plausibility ceiling. Would it be sensible for Libertopolis to have the square kilometers of the Sprawl (from Neuromancer and its sequels)?

Adding on, the Rust District is just a nickname. I need to come up with another Gallente name, preferably a politician's, to use as its official name.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Persephone Alleile on 27 Jan 2017, 15:51
Hey Elmund, I enjoyed chapter 1 :).

Some thoughts: In terms of the layout of Libertopolis I personally envision a planned Federal District type city (the example that comes to mind is Brasilia). Monuments, official looking gov't buildings, parkways, orderly streets, etc. I think it would be reasonably large but maybe not among the biggest of Federation cities.

As for a name for the Rust District, if I'm to assume Rust refers to Matari immigrants you could go with Josefia Harner who I believe was the Prez during the Minmatar rebellion. Or you could go with Jen Yiona who's presidential reforms included moving the capital to Libertopolis.
Title: Re: On Villore
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 27 Jan 2017, 22:40
Hey Elmund, I enjoyed chapter 1 :).

Some thoughts: In terms of the layout of Libertopolis I personally envision a planned Federal District type city (the example that comes to mind is Brasilia). Monuments, official looking gov't buildings, parkways, orderly streets, etc. I think it would be reasonably large but maybe not among the biggest of Federation cities.

As for a name for the Rust District, if I'm to assume Rust refers to Matari immigrants you could go with Josefia Harner who I believe was the Prez during the Minmatar rebellion. Or you could go with Jen Yiona who's presidential reforms included moving the capital to Libertopolis.

I had in mind that Rust District was and still is the centre of heavy industries on the planet. However, due to poor PR and everything (you know, towering chimneys of smoke that are really just emitting large plumes of steam), the majority of the locals (other than the most desperate) will not want to live in it. Then the waves of Matari immigrant showed up, found the place to their liking (very cheap housing and the job availability in the factories), and went on to live in it and made the place their own. Now it's all bare ferroconcrete apartments with tribal stylings under the shadow of massive factories.