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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Alain Colcer on 24 Sep 2015, 14:16
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Just that, since i don't quite grasp all the religious and political views of all houses, what heir would be the best in the interest of the Federation?.
My character cannot compete in the trials, but it would be interesting to financially support those champions who will fight in the name of the heir who better suits the Federation interests.
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depends to a large degree on what you think the federations interests are. Also depends on the strategy of the federation.
Maybe Tash-Murkon or Kador? But what do you hold to be the 'interests of the federation'?
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depends to a large degree on what you think the federations interests are. Also depends on the strategy of the federation.
Maybe Tash-Murkon or Kador? But what do you hold to be the 'interests of the federation'?
I guess he means a more liberal ruler?
And if thats the case then maybe not Kador as iirc Kador went and invaded a Gallente system? I'm pretty ignorant too...
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IIRC Kador had quite the dramatic love affair with a Gallentewoman, so he might be partial to the Feds. Or extra, extra bitter.
;)
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My ISK is on Kor-azor having the best interests towards the federation as they seem to value peace over anything and are being more open about who they let in..valuing them based off their standings with either the state or Federation and of course the empire
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From the postings of the Stewards, Kador and Kor-Azor are openly accepting pilots from any bloodline if they are worthy.
Kor-Azor on the surface seems like the smart choice for the Fed, but if people can get over Uriam Kador's moronic little jaunt into Solitude then he might not be terrible either.
Not sure about Tash-Murkon.
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It's worth looking up the histories of the heirs in question (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Amarr_Heirs), but you should consider also not just how the new Emperor might treat foreign nations, but by how their election might cause unrest and weaken the Empire itself. There's no good option for the Fed here, but just varying degrees of bad.
Merimeth Sarum is right out as an option, as he is rather young, impetuous and very eager to both prove himself and break out of Jamyl's shadow. An Emperor Merimeth would be a champion of the Reclaiming and a very bad turn of diplomatic relations with the Fed.
Yonis Ardishapur is also patently not good for the Fed, being a highly-devout religious conservative. He is both intelligent and highly popular, and could easily bring the Empire into a new state of unity and strength that could be turned outward against the Empire's enemies, but his election would also cause friction with the newly re-integrated Khanid Kingdom.
With Articio Kor-Azor, he was closely allied with Jamyl's reign (even serving as Imperial Chancellor, the #2 spot in the Empire's hierarchy). He has a long history of carelessness, mental instability, sadism and violence. Most of it has been suppressed since his cleansing torture, but it's unlikely that it did much to help his sanity, despite what his public change of behavior suggests.
Catiz Tash-Murkhon is the least interested in warmongering, and most likely to encourage peaceful relations with the cluster at large. Her Udorian ancestry is a point of controversy among conservative Amarr, but she is the embodiment of what a progressive / liberal Amarrian Empire could be, but her family's extensive trading links and contracts with the State could be problematic for the Fed.
Uriam Kador, like Catiz, has had several progressive initiatives to modernize his realm, and could be well-disposed towards foreign powers. I don't know if anything ever actually came of Kador's personal invasion of Ratillose, or if it was just CCP derping, but it weakened his standing in the Empire and put him at odds with the Sarum.
Finally, there's Garkeh Khanid, a man so narcissistic that he became the only Heir in history at that point to defy millenia of tradition and choose his own life over his religious duty, and successfully rebelled against the Empire. Despite being brought back in "no harm, no foul", and given all his rights, status and privileges back, an election of Emperor Khanid would undoubtedly cause substantial internal turmoil within the Empire.
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When considering Catiz, people should remember she was one of the voices in favor of a renewed military reclaiming.
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I'd offer Kor Azor or Kador as the two most likely to be supported by Pro-Federation outside entities.
As I understand it the Tash-Murkon have a very close relationship with the Kingdom and State too and despite their more liberal policies don't actively direct their efforts toward democratic pursuits.
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There's no good option for the Fed here, but just varying degrees of bad.
The above basically nails it, i don't want a heir who goes rampant on a new reclaiming campaign, nor one that shuts down all insterstellar trade.
A heir that might fit the federation interests might consider the following:
-trade to be the intelligent choice, but protectionist of the empire economy first
-liberal beliefs (as long as everyone believes in one true god, the rest is just details)
-less forced slavery, more about "servants" recognition and emancipation
and so on...
Kor-Azor sounds like an option...not sure if it fits what i'm trying to communicate.
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Probably Kor-Azor...
Tash Murkon can be a bit of a loose cannon when it comes to what she declares... She can say one day that she is fully behind economic treaties and the likesand the following day that a reclaiming could be cool after all for the economy too...
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And then Aritcio decides that the Gallente are mistreating their population and need some good ol' Amarr Batman bashup... ?
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Best hair option for the Gallente? That pouffy pompadour looking do. Best hair, by far!
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Kor-Azor is the most diplomatic heir, and he even asks for his champion applicants to have high Gallente Federation standings.
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The more progressive and liberal, the better.
Anyone but Khanid.
Khanid would be BAD for Fed relations. Very good for State relations, but he would take zero crap from Roden.
It would be a mutually bad relationship all around.
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First read this as "Best hair option for the Federation".
Seems like a very valid question actually.
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First read this as "Best hair option for the Federation".
Seems like a very valid question actually.
A very dumb question, really. If you don't know the answer to -that- is Aldrith, you probably shouldn't have a capsule license... >.>
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We don't all want to be mistaken for a girl from behind.
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To disagree with Sin a little bit, Khanid becoming Emperor would most certainly throw the Empire into turmoil and introduce a great schism. Would war break out, Amarr against Amarr?
Wouldn't that be the best for the Federation, after all?
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If you hope to weaken the Empire, go for Khanid. It can also backfire entirely if he starts being more than just friends with the Caldari though.
If you hope for more agreements with the Empire, go for Tash Murkon. It can backfire entirely since she is fickle.
If you hope for better diplomacy, maybe Kor-Azor since his House has always been the traditional ones for that... It can backfire since it's well... Aritcio. We don't really know what are his views on foreign relations, though his announcement for the trials seems to go in that direction...
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To disagree with Sin a little bit, Khanid becoming Emperor would most certainly throw the Empire into turmoil and introduce a great schism. Would war break out, Amarr against Amarr?
Wouldn't that be the best for the Federation, after all?
Nah.
There'd be a lot of butthurt from the Conservatives, but since he's already been ratified by the Privy and Theology Council, they'd have to accept him. They wouldn't like him though. I think he'd iron hand everything at first to address the Drifter threat. After that? He's old school True Amarr. The alliance with the State is what Khanid needed to survive. He may decide to cool things off if he doesn't need them.
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Well.. I'd say the two finalists in the trials - Tash Murkon and Kor Azor, were the best two for the Federation. It will be interesting to see how things play out of CCP let's the storyline develop consistently.
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indeed, it is quite surprising to actually see in retrospection this thread as this was some kind of "foretold" on the ouctome.