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Title: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 20 Apr 2015, 21:18
Hello All,

So this is an idea I have had kicking around in my head for a little bit, and after a few interactions in-game I have had and interactions I have seen occur, I believe there would be some interest in it.

I will place two caveats here: Firstly I am sure this has been done before, as almost everything has, however this does not diminish the enjoyment or the unique stories that might emerge from this iteration; secondly I am well aware that peace in New Eden is impossible from an OOC perspective, this doesn't mean as characters in the universe we are aware of this.

So what is it I am suggesting? A conference of capsuleers from each of the main empires, and preferably with representation from the more minor "legal" factions, where the participants come together to negotiate and develop a "pathway to peace." This "pathway to peace" would be a proposal outlining the steps and necessary features for lasting peace in New Eden, as conceived by those characters involved.

It would not be a legal document obviously, but simply a proposal. Further a feature which I think will make it interesting will be the fact that the negotiation process will be "private" with characters signing an agreement not to disclose the negotiations (of course people can choose to break that agreement, and it will lead to some cool conflicts and RP I am sure); so that way at the end of the conference everyone involved steps out with one voice and one vision.

However do not take this to mean I am intending the conference to produce a proposal, if throughout the event we cannot reach a consensus then the peace conference fails. And this is not OOCly a bad thing as it will give us all some amazing stories to develop and react to, how would someone who dreams of peace react to the failure of it for example. Just as the success of it would also give development and things for hardliners to react and interact with.

This is the broad outline of what I am proposing, the actual event would run for a month or more with a dedicated channel. We would have lots of fun I am sure arguing over seating arrangements, size of flags, and of course if we get past those things discussing and describing the proposed pathway itself :D

So consider this a little interest check, if your character would be interested post here and we can work out ways to approach broaching the idea ICly. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Sarro Azizora on 20 Apr 2015, 21:23
I believe this would be a wonderful event to take part in. Count me in of course.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 20 Apr 2015, 21:24
I believe this would be a wonderful event to take part in. Count me in of course.

Hehe nice to know Arkon ain't going to be alone from those peeps in the Tribunal in organising this :D
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Astera Zandraki on 20 Apr 2015, 21:38
Count me in! humanitarian interventions for everyone!
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 20 Apr 2015, 21:40
Count me in! humanitarian interventions for everyone!

I am going to look forward to seeing you negotiate that XD Either way awesomesauce, glad to hear that the idea holds interest :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 20 Apr 2015, 22:44
I'm not sure how Morwen might go about expressing interest in something like this, given things, but it might be something up her alley given past work.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 20 Apr 2015, 23:17
In the longer run, it might be worth considering longer-term, more indirect methods of encouraging peace.

The Nobel Committee doesn't directly stump for causes, IIRC, but the Peace Prize is dynamite, politically (so to speak).
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 20 Apr 2015, 23:21
I'm not sure how Morwen might go about expressing interest in something like this, given things, but it might be something up her alley given past work.

Awesome to hear that :D We will have to put on our thinking caps and find a way, but I am sure it is possible. :)

In the longer run, it might be worth considering longer-term, more indirect methods of encouraging peace.

The Nobel Committee doesn't directly stump for causes, IIRC, but the Peace Prize is dynamite, politically (so to speak).

That is something that might emerge from the conference as something to be done. Also on the subject of the Nobel Peace Prize those awarded it do actually stump for causes as you say, see the World Summit of Nobel Peace Laureates. :)

So think of the conference more in the vein of that than a peace award, which New Eden already has an analogue for. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Sahriah Bloodstone on 21 Apr 2015, 00:14
This sounds like an intriguing idea. I believe Sahriah would be interested in anything that may affect her line of work but I am unsure if she would be welcome considering her job really revolves around people not getting along. Either way I am looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 21 Apr 2015, 01:40
That's an interesting idea.

I guess that we could also have people showing up that actually want war and will do anything to put the negociations in jeopardy out of political agendas, Netanyahu style. That could be awesome.

Also, could be a good time to resurrect the New Eden Assembly, though... There are already too many channels from what I gather and they have reached a critical mass for people to keep them active.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 21 Apr 2015, 03:37
This sounds like an intriguing idea. I believe Sahriah would be interested in anything that may affect her line of work but I am unsure if she would be welcome considering her job really revolves around people not getting along. Either way I am looking forward to seeing how this plays out.

I am glad you find it intriguing :D One of the ways perhaps she can keep involved is by attending press conferences which I imagine will happen throughout the event. Of course if you want to get her involved in other ways, both positively and negatively I encourage you to do so (in fact check my response to Lyn below for one of those potential ways ;) ).

That's an interesting idea.

I guess that we could also have people showing up that actually want war and will do anything to put the negociations in jeopardy out of political agendas, Netanyahu style. That could be awesome.

Also, could be a good time to resurrect the New Eden Assembly, though... There are already too many channels from what I gather and they have reached a critical mass for people to keep them active.

Awesomesauce, I am glad a few people have found it as potentially interesting as I do.

And exactly, attendance doesn't necessarily mean your character supports peace you could do exactly that look to sabotage the negotiations and of course what happens if the proposal manages to pass through despite your efforts is another cool story/development for you and others to interact with: do you break the agreement and talk about how the negotiations went, do you walk out and refuse to sign your name to it, or a myriad of other things :D

A further addendum to the subject of sabotage I would like to place the conference in space to some extent, one of the ways I was considering was to have shuttles moving between various stations throughout the month or so carrying "reports." This would give those who oppose the conference something to shoot at, and the destruction of them would force the delegates to react, etc. Yes I know technically the "reports" could all be sent electronically, but that would be dull and uninteresting, and limits people's ability to have their characters interact with this event. Just one idea I had around the conference, I am still drawing up the outline of the event and plan to give it more structure over the coming week.

And the New Eden Assembly channel could perhaps be something that the conference suggests as being necessary for promoting the cause of peace; and perhaps nominates it or another channel to facilitate further discussions on the proposal for peace. I can certainly see this being something that gets attached to the proposal. :D

Definitely want to hear from more people though, see if the interest in an event of this scale and nature is there :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Kybernetes on 21 Apr 2015, 04:04
It'd definitely be cool to see something like this going on; I don't recall anything similar ever happening on a large-ish scale.

Of course, it'd be disingenuous for the Sansha's Nation-aligned Kyber to put in an appearance. My old NOH guy Vaun may have done, but ho-hum; will watch with OOC interest if nothing else!
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 21 Apr 2015, 04:20
It'd definitely be cool to see something like this going on; I don't recall anything similar ever happening on a large-ish scale.

Of course, it'd be disingenuous for the Sansha's Nation-aligned Kyber to put in an appearance. My old NOH guy Vaun may have done, but ho-hum; will watch with OOC interest if nothing else!

While those capsuleers whose loyalty is openly declared for those groups whom are regarded as "illegal" wouldn't get an invite, it doesn't mean you can't get involved. :D You could petition to have yourselves involved, create a media storm on how the conference is excluding you and other necessary voices for peace, etc. I would definitely love to see this and would be more than happy to help work out the details for it :D

Though ICly the event is about peace and its promotion, OOCly its motivation is to help us create interesting and exciting stories around our characters and their place in the world - and assuredly that which is interesting and exciting is rarely a result of smooth sailing. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 21 Apr 2015, 04:30
For shuttle attacks maybe you can find objects, item or persons that require to be transported, and not in cloaky ships ?

For Sansha and piwate supporters, nothing prevents them to send crooked agents that work under cover for X respectable entity, and even if some of them are quickly labelled as blatantly working for shady interests, they might not be outright declared as pirate or whatever, and so would not really be expellable.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Letos on 21 Apr 2015, 05:00
Hello All,

So this is an idea I have had kicking around in my head for a little bit...

This is a wonderful proposal. I don't have a clue what would propably come out of this, but just trying would be a lot of fun, I think :D Count me in. If you need any help for preparations, brainstorming, or event support, let me know.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 21 Apr 2015, 05:03
What would be the in space consequences of this? I like the idea and might see about getting Hallie involved. I don't like that you want to make a peace talk exclusive. That kind of gives a "We want peace, just not with you" vibe. And why use yet another channel when we have active mods in The Summit? Maybe even getting Pheobe Freeport alliance to chime in or host could be a step in the right direction too. Talking about peace in New Eden rather than just CONCORD space (hisec). Might actually have some in space effect that way, as we really can't change CONCORD "peace" policies.

Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Thal Vadam on 21 Apr 2015, 05:10
I...want...in.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 21 Apr 2015, 05:47
For shuttle attacks maybe you can find objects, item or persons that require to be transported, and not in cloaky ships ?

For Sansha and piwate supporters, nothing prevents them to send crooked agents that work under cover for X respectable entity, and even if some of them are quickly labelled as blatantly working for shady interests, they might not be outright declared as pirate or whatever, and so would not really be expellable.

Hmm good idea I was just going to have them transport the item reports, but perhaps we can have them transport people - the sheer number of staff needed for a conference of this type would necessitate it.

And exactly if you can convince ICly that you aren't outright pariahs then you can sneak in and go about your nefarious purposes, just as much as those people who would want the conference to fail for other reasons but are from a "legal" faction. Further you could indeed make an argument that for peace to be viable and meaningful including your faction is necessary, whether that argument is going to sway things is something we cannot say until it happens, but regardless of the success or failure it will be an interesting thing to RP. :)

This is a wonderful proposal. I don't have a clue what would propably come out of this, but just trying would be a lot of fun, I think :D Count me in. If you need any help for preparations, brainstorming, or event support, let me know.

What will come out of it as yet isn't decided, that is the point of the conference - to have our characters negotiate the realisation of the proposal, if it can happen at all. In terms of what such a proposal would look like I would imagine it will end up something like the Treaty of Paris (1815) crossed with a UN General Assembly Resolution - so with plenty of jargon, and lots and lots of clauses hehe :)

I will definitely take you up on the offer for brainstorming! :D

What would be the in space consequences of this? I like the idea and might see about getting Hallie involved. I don't like that you want to make a peace talk exclusive. That kind of gives a "We want peace, just not with you" vibe. And why use yet another channel when we have active mods in The Summit? Maybe even getting Pheobe Freeport alliance to chime in or host could be a step in the right direction too. Talking about peace in New Eden rather than just CONCORD space (hisec). Might actually have some in space effect that way, as we really can't change CONCORD "peace" policies.

I was careful in crafting the idea for this to merely present the achievement of it, should it occur, to be simply a pathway to peace - a proposal nothing more. As what would be involved in such a proposal is beyond the power of the characters to affect, i.e. requiring the big four to legally agree to the binding nature of the proposal, which we cannot reasonably claim. While getting involved with the nullsec alliances might lead to more obvious realisations of the proposal, it is my opinion that firstly there aren't enough alliances interested in pursuing the sort of immersive RP that this conference necessitates; and secondly the politics and complexities of nullsec are something I would rather not get dragged into the conference, as I can see unnecessary OOC dramas arising. However nullsec alliances are certainly welcome to make the IC case for their necessary involvement in the conference, just as the other factions outside the big four.

To provide further elucidation the decision to restrict it to the big four was also an IC choice from Arkon. He is not a fan of the notion of capsuleers going off on their own and acting as if they are beyond the power of the law, as the originator of the conference it therefore makes sense that he doesn't want to see them involved. However that said again they are more than welcome to make the case for their involvement from an IC perspective and if it convinces the organisers then awesomesauce, and if not even then it would be a great interaction I am sure. :)

Making it exclusive is the nature of peace negotiations, they never occur before the public, but always under the diplomatic cover of anonymity. Further using a channel like the Summit wouldn't suit the conference for several reasons: firstly the Summit has an established purpose and structure which does not lend itself to a conference; secondly it denies us the chance to create a physical space for the interactions, and to give the organisers of the conference the rights and responsibilities of moderating the space; further the moderation rules of the Summit would not suit a conference; and finally imagine a poor new player coming into the middle of a complex discussion over the merits of intra-cluster trade as being necessary for peace, they would be lost and it might not be the RP they are wanting.

I...want...in.

Glad it captures your interest :D Once I have more details together I will start figuring out how we can approach disseminating the idea ICly, and I look forward to your involvement Thal! :D


Cheers for the thoughts, and interest peeps, always interested in hearing more ^_^
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 21 Apr 2015, 06:20
Nevermind then.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Kybernetes on 21 Apr 2015, 06:43
While those capsuleers whose loyalty is openly declared for those groups whom are regarded as "illegal" wouldn't get an invite, it doesn't mean you can't get involved. :D You could petition to have yourselves involved, create a media storm on how the conference is excluding you and other necessary voices for peace, etc. I would definitely love to see this and would be more than happy to help work out the details for it :D

Though ICly the event is about peace and its promotion, OOCly its motivation is to help us create interesting and exciting stories around our characters and their place in the world - and assuredly that which is interesting and exciting is rarely a result of smooth sailing. :)

Oh, yeah. I'll keep an eye out to see if anything would catch my character's eye--if it does, I'll hit you up and see what we can figure out. Give us a shout if you go ahead with it and something comes to mind, too; could be fun.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 21 Apr 2015, 07:13
Nevermind then.

All that wasn't to say however that capsuleers and their status (and that of their nullsec empires) won't be a matter discussed and deliberated on during the conference, and perhaps feature in the final proposal - should it occur. :D

I just am wary of trying to do anything more than to make the conference about a proposal for peace, as actually enforcing it whether in highsec or nullsec requires a lot of authority and influence: which in the case of one is impossible for us as players to claim, and in the other case in my opinion would involve a lot of stress and OOC drama.

Again though one of the things which may emerge from the conference could be a concerted effort to enforce what is in the proposal, which would be absolutely awesome in my book :D However as with the nature of the existence of the proposal, and its contents, I wouldn't want to preempt things by saying this will happen; rather like those things better to have it evolve and emerge from the actual IC actions and discussions within the conference itself.

Oh, yeah. I'll keep an eye out to see if anything would catch my character's eye--if it does, I'll hit you up and see what we can figure out. Give us a shout if you go ahead with it and something comes to mind, too; could be fun.

Glad to hear it, I will definitely be posting here as I develop the idea further (going to take a week to mull it over, take on the feedback here during that time, and generally develop a more structured proposal for the event itself). :)

Definitely will let you know, I hope it will be a bunch of fun for all involved :D
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 21 Apr 2015, 09:14
Caldari delegate, checking in. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lunarisse Aspenstar on 21 Apr 2015, 11:06
Interesting concept, and I wish you luck with it. It may be surprising but ICly Luna has an issue with this (more that she would think this is overstepping the bounds of a capsuleer's place over the Empress and the officials the Empire has to handle issues of war and peace, among other issues probably clear if you know the character), but you may want to talk to Nicoletta to see if she has interest.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Ibrahim Tash-Murkon on 21 Apr 2015, 12:26
I think that this will almost certainly lead to nothing ICly and even if not I couldn't be entirely sure that it would be "good" for peace to break out. But as an event for content creation I am wholly supportive and if I can take part (if I am available and it makes sense) I will.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Halcyon on 21 Apr 2015, 12:30
I could show up if that would work?
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 21 Apr 2015, 12:44
Interesting concept, and I wish you luck with it. It may be surprising but ICly Luna has an issue with this (more that she would think this is overstepping the bounds of a capsuleer's place over the Empress and the officials the Empire has to handle issues of war and peace, among other issues probably clear if you know the character), but you may want to talk to Nicoletta to see if she has interest.

The way Pieter sees it, it's not that the opinions of a bunch of capsuleers are binding on the nationstates that they represent. This represents an opportunity to see familiar events and conflicts from an unfamiliar angle and see if there is any common ground, in vision.

This is just about good citizenship.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 21 Apr 2015, 13:19
It's more about a petition rather than a command. Capsuleers discussing agreements in a sensible (or not) matter, and governments are free to do what they want with it.

The primary purpose, if I get it right, is a peace summit between capsuleers organizations and loyalists to broker peace agreements between said capsuleer entities (or not).
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 21 Apr 2015, 13:29
This looks quite interesting. Count me in.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Rin Kaelestria on 21 Apr 2015, 14:30
Hrm, maaaaaybe? I'll give it some heavy consideration, at least.  :P

*expecting Morwen, Luna, and Sami telling her to log back in more in 3... 2... 1...*
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 21 Apr 2015, 17:45
Hrm, maaaaaybe? I'll give it some heavy consideration, at least.  :P

*expecting Morwen, Luna, and Sami telling her to log back in more in 3... 2... 1...*

T+03:15 ~ LOG BACK IN!

(Also not including Esna in that list? Harsh.)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 21 Apr 2015, 19:27
Caldari delegate, checking in. :)

Awesomesauce, I admit your posts in the 'Gallentean's have started the war' thread were part of what catalyze the idea for this event. :)

Interesting concept, and I wish you luck with it. It may be surprising but ICly Luna has an issue with this (more that she would think this is overstepping the bounds of a capsuleer's place over the Empress and the officials the Empire has to handle issues of war and peace, among other issues probably clear if you know the character), but you may want to talk to Nicoletta to see if she has interest.


Thanks Luna :D I can definitely see that position, however Arkon's IC view is that the proposal (if the conference produces one) would be no more than a petition to the authorities in the Empire to consider. In this way it is elementally no different to the petition currently on the IGS for the removal of slaves from the SCC - the Empire is a signatory to the agreements which create and administer the SCC thus lending its authority to the organisation, yet Arkon considers it perfectly reasonable as a faithful citizen of the Empire to point out what he considers to be a mistake in Imperial policy. Which again is identical to what the proposal from the conference would be, a petition and suggested plan for peace in New Eden from interested and dutiful citizens of all the big four. :)

But the reaction of characters like Luna who believe it is overstepping the limits of an individual's place in society will surely be a great piece of the stories that are crafted in and around this event. :D

I think that this will almost certainly lead to nothing ICly and even if not I couldn't be entirely sure that it would be "good" for peace to break out. But as an event for content creation I am wholly supportive and if I can take part (if I am available and it makes sense) I will.

Exactly :D The IC success or failure of the conference is irrelevant to the exciting stories and development for our characters that will occur. Glad to have you there :D

I could show up if that would work?

I see no reason why it shouldn't :D Once I have a better outline of things in the coming week you should be able to see whether it would suit your character or not :)

The way Pieter sees it, it's not that the opinions of a bunch of capsuleers are binding on the nationstates that they represent. This represents an opportunity to see familiar events and conflicts from an unfamiliar angle and see if there is any common ground, in vision.

This is just about good citizenship.

Arkon's IC vision is pretty much the same, and from an OOC perspective nothing produced by the conference will be binding as that is more than we can reasonably claim as players. Hence why I have called the product of the conference, should it happen, a proposal for a pathway to peace not a peace treaty. :)

It's more about a petition rather than a command. Capsuleers discussing agreements in a sensible (or not) matter, and governments are free to do what they want with it.

The primary purpose, if I get it right, is a peace summit between capsuleers organizations and loyalists to broker peace agreements between said capsuleer entities (or not).

The peace conference will outline and touch on all matters deemed by the delegates to be necessary in forming a lasting peace in the cluster - so I am sure capsuleer and non-capsuleer organisations will be the subject of much discussion during the conference, and will feature in the proposal should it occur. :)

As I have said the product of the conference will be a proposal for peace nothing more, as doing more than that requires more authority than we as players can reasonably claim. However, if the proposal is produced then the enforcement of its clauses relevant to our capsuleer organisation could be something that the delegates wish to see come to fruition - and this would be something that could lead to further events, further representation and development in the actual game outside the event, and this would be absolutely ace in my book :D However as I have said before I don't want to preempt OOC what we will be debating and discussing IC, removes half the fun. ;)

This looks quite interesting. Count me in.

Ace! :D Glad to have another peep interested.

Hrm, maaaaaybe? I'll give it some heavy consideration, at least.  :P

*expecting Morwen, Luna, and Sami telling her to log back in more in 3... 2... 1...*

Thank you for the consideration :D I hope when I have a better and more informed outline for the event up that it will definitely see you at it ;)


Given the interest I am definitely happy to say this event will be occurring, I am just now needing to structure and give form to it a bit more. Expect the more structured proposal within the coming week. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Ché Biko on 21 Apr 2015, 19:59
I'd like to get involved, if only a little.
Ché may not volunteer, or may even require someone to convince him, but it's he's not an unlikely candidate to be asked to function as a neutral mediator/diplomat. He's known as a peace activist, played a part in the establishment of the Caldari Prime DMZ, holds no loyalty any of the big4 in particular, and is even neutral towards Sansha's Nation.
Putting him in that position may create some controverse. It's not unlikely that some will see him as unfit to function in that capacity for various reasons. And sometimes Ché says stuff...it would have been better if he had not said it.

Also, those CONCORD Diplo shuttles...gotta have a use for those. :bear:
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: kalaratiri on 21 Apr 2015, 20:27
As a member of New Eden's largest group of 100% legitimate businessmen (and women), I would definitely be interested in being involved with this.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 21 Apr 2015, 21:26
I think we should have Diana Kim attempt to crash a Leviathan into the conference. Attempt.

After all, she wouldn't want Caldari and Gallente make peace with each other.

Also, need Matari extremists.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 22 Apr 2015, 01:45
I'd like to get involved, if only a little.
Ché may not volunteer, or may even require someone to convince him, but it's he's not an unlikely candidate to be asked to function as a neutral mediator/diplomat. He's known as a peace activist, played a part in the establishment of the Caldari Prime DMZ, holds no loyalty any of the big4 in particular, and is even neutral towards Sansha's Nation.
Putting him in that position may create some controverse. It's not unlikely that some will see him as unfit to function in that capacity for various reasons. And sometimes Ché says stuff...it would have been better if he had not said it.

Also, those CONCORD Diplo shuttles...gotta have a use for those. :bear:

The simple fact that you are space communism automatically grants access to Arkon's deepest secrets and privileges. :3
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 22 Apr 2015, 03:28
I'd like to get involved, if only a little.
Ché may not volunteer, or may even require someone to convince him, but it's he's not an unlikely candidate to be asked to function as a neutral mediator/diplomat. He's known as a peace activist, played a part in the establishment of the Caldari Prime DMZ, holds no loyalty any of the big4 in particular, and is even neutral towards Sansha's Nation.
Putting him in that position may create some controverse. It's not unlikely that some will see him as unfit to function in that capacity for various reasons. And sometimes Ché says stuff...it would have been better if he had not said it.

Also, those CONCORD Diplo shuttles...gotta have a use for those. :bear:

Excellent :D I am sure we can figure out a way to convince Ché involved, and I am envisioning the conference to have numerous smaller bilateral negotiations and meetings as well as the large multilateral discussion - so perhaps there is a role for him in that? :D

And yes those CONCORD shuttles I totally forgot 8)

As a member of New Eden's largest group of 100% legitimate businessmen (and women), I would definitely be interested in being involved with this.

Well we can't have peace without involving our totally legitimate businessmen and women can we? Hehe :D

I think we should have Diana Kim attempt to crash a Leviathan into the conference. Attempt.

After all, she wouldn't want Caldari and Gallente make peace with each other.

Also, need Matari extremists.

Hehe I am sure the extremists will have plenty to disrupt, and I assuredly look forward to giving them the chances to do just that. :D

The simple fact that you are space communism automatically grants access to Arkon's deepest secrets and privileges. :3

Sssssh that is my super secret identity... *hides his red flag*
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 22 Apr 2015, 08:09
Also, fwiw... the Masque is conveniently located in Yulai. You're welcome to use it, if you like - I can easily 'lock' the channel to limit to an invite list if needed.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Vikarion on 22 Apr 2015, 10:14
I'd be interested.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 22 Apr 2015, 16:08
Interested, though I'm not at all sure who or what Aria would represent.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Vikarion on 22 Apr 2015, 18:05
Interested, though I'm not at all sure who or what Aria would represent.

Disinterested journalist?
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Ché Biko on 22 Apr 2015, 18:09
Interested, though I'm not at all sure who or what Aria would represent.
Drifters, obviously.  :twisted: They hijacked Aria's clone, after all.  :lol:
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 22 Apr 2015, 23:41
Also, fwiw... the Masque is conveniently located in Yulai. You're welcome to use it, if you like - I can easily 'lock' the channel to limit to an invite list if needed.

Awesomesauce I will keep that in mind :D I hope to have a better plan for this event done by tonight or tomorrow.

I'd be interested.

Excellent :D Glad to have you on board!

Interested, though I'm not at all sure who or what Aria would represent.

Glad to hear it, well as well as delegates I can see the conference requiring much logistical support so people who may want to show their support, or have other reasons ;) could perhaps offer to fill one of these roles? Just a thought. Things will become clearer when I have the more certain plan for the event outlined.

Interested, though I'm not at all sure who or what Aria would represent.

Disinterested journalist?

Certainly be looking for journalists :D

Interested, though I'm not at all sure who or what Aria would represent.
Drifters, obviously.  :twisted: They hijacked Aria's clone, after all.  :lol:

Hehe ^_^
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 23 Apr 2015, 01:39
Interested, though I'm not at all sure who or what Aria would represent.

Disinterested journalist?

Ohh good idea, can I be the archivist ? :3
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Pieter Tuulinen on 23 Apr 2015, 08:49
This is shaping up nicely! Looking forward to it - particularly want to engage Minmatar delegates a bit. I love the Matari lore and since Pieter fell out with Ava I haven't gotten to play in that sandpit at all.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Valadeus on 23 Apr 2015, 13:59
Liam would, of course, attend as a representative for the Federation (at least one bloc of it), though I imagine there might be better prospects.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 23 Apr 2015, 18:01
This is shaping up nicely! Looking forward to it - particularly want to engage Minmatar delegates a bit. I love the Matari lore and since Pieter fell out with Ava I haven't gotten to play in that sandpit at all.

Indeed I am very excited for this :D And so happy that there is a large bit of interest, I had imagined it would end up Arkon sitting alone in a room XD

Liam would, of course, attend as a representative for the Federation (at least one bloc of it), though I imagine there might be better prospects.

Never :D Have Liam there will be an absolute blast, glad it has your interest.


Also pleased to say that the more formalised outline for the event is coming together, I should be able to post an outline tonight (AU local time). :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 24 Apr 2015, 03:33
Pakhshi Peace Conference - YC117 01/05 – 31/05

In light of recent developments in the cluster and the need for collective responses to these developments the Pakhshi Peace Conference is hereby proposed and announced. Capsuleers from across New Eden, originating from all legitimate interstellar organisations (as recognised by CONCORD), will meet to discuss the necessary steps and provisions for the peaceful resolution of current conflicts. It is the hope of the Pakhshi Peace Conference Organising Committee that the conference will be able to articulate a common vision for a just peace which we can then collectively, and independently, petition our respective governments with.

The conference will last for one month during which time capsuleers will engage with all topics and issues identified by them as being necessary for the achievement of a just peace. The General Congress of the Pakhshi Peace Conference will consist of all capsuleers in attendance and will be responsible for: identifying those issues and topics in need of addressing, accepting/rejecting/amending proposed solutions to these issues and the wording of the clauses for the Pakhshi Peace Plan, and finally for ratifying the Pakhshi Peace Plan.

Each issue or topic identified by the initial session of the General Congress of the Pakhshi Peace Conference will be assigned a commission. These commissions shall be comprised of those capsuleers whose interstellar organisations it concerns or whom have interest/utility in belonging to the commission. These commissions shall debate in detail, and in private, the particulars of the issue or topic and eventually arriving at a solution will put the proposed clause to the General Congress for consideration. Each commission shall have a Chair, and a Secretary – as voted on by the members.

Milestones

Week One 01/05 – 07/05

Day One – Welcome and opening of the conference (Social/Administrative RP mainly, people getting passes issued, being shown offices and quarters, a ballroom ceremony opening the conference with a brief speech).

Day Two – First Session of the General Congress of the Pakhshi Peace Conference begins (Political RP mainly, expecting people to make their political agendas apparent during this session, not much work on the issues to be treated specifically more political positioning and looking for supporters/opponents).

Day Three-Six – First Session of the General Congress of the Pakhshi Peace Conference continues (Political & Administrative RP mainly punctuated with social RP. Now we will begin to see the issues in need of addressing beginning to be lodged, debated, and disputed. We will also have lots of admin work going on with those people overseeing that side of things moving back forth. Also as with any diplomatic event there will be a lot of talk going on in the bar, bedrooms, and offices. These 4 days will no doubt have the blocs begin to form and come together. A lot of self-directed RP during these days, with Congress in session only at optimal times OOCly).

Day Seven – First Session of the General Congress of the Pakhshi Peace Conference ends (Political/Administrative RP with a social event, the issues identified hopefully, commissions assigned and capsuleers’ roles on them decided, closing remarks at the end of the session, and a small drinks event at the end to drown sorrows or cheer successes – just generally bracing yourself with Dutch courage for the next two weeks).

Week Two 08/05 – 14/05
Commissions are in session for this week, the RP that develops and evolves here will differ with each commission. From the central event we will be having lots of admin stuff, people filling reports, requesting information or statistics, here is where some of the in-space action starts happening more with shuttles ferrying things.

Week Three 15/05 – 21/05
Second Session of the General Congress of the Pakhshi Peace Conference (Commissions suggested clauses for the final document will be presented for debate and discussion, with their nature being accepted, rejected outright, or amended. How this second session evolves will also determine what occurs in week four, with commissions perhaps having to go back and look at issues again, or with new commissions to handle new issues).

Week Four 22/05 – 28/05
Commissions are in session for this week again, the exact nature of them will depend on the second session of the General Congress. It will assuredly have a mix of old commissions returning to look again at those solutions which the General Congress rejected, and new commissions to address issues/topic which hadn’t been addressed in the second week. Again the RP here will be diverse and defined by the individual commissions, with the overarching administrative and in-space backdrop occurring again.

Last 2 days 29/05 – 31/05
Final Session of the General Congress of the Pakhshi Peace Conference (It all comes down to these two days, here will the new suggested clauses be looked at amended or accepted or even rejected. This session will either propose the Pakhshi Peace Plan or failing that nothing or perhaps something else as determined by those present. The last day will conclude with a ball, the tone of which you can imagine will be determined by the final session’s success or failure).


There we go a bit of a better outline of the event I have in mind, still hazy and being detailed in some places as you can obviously see but I hope this will give people a better idea; and perhaps decide for them one way or the other if they want to get involved.

I hope it hasn’t diminished the interest, as I think an event of this nature with a central driving story but with the decentralised approach allows for people to craft their own stories in and around it while giving enough of a common thread that we feel our and everyone’s actions are purposeful. I am sure the month-long event may worry some people, but don’t worry how the commissions run is up to those players involved a mixture of physical/holo meetings with lots of evemail exchanges is how I imagine them going on. And again with the general congress that will occur at optimal times OOCly. I hope the few social events and venues will also help people feel like it isn’t just one big boring conference.

I will be adding more detail to this outline in the coming weekend, the dates mentioned were just for my rough estimation it may be later in May and run into early June. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Valadeus on 24 Apr 2015, 04:57
Wow, nice outline. Seems like a good time, to be honest. I'm looking forward to attending.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: kalaratiri on 24 Apr 2015, 05:02
Running it through May makes its slightly interesting for me, as the first week and a half I will be very busy irl with exams. I'm still interested in getting involved but I may have to start off in something of an observers role.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 24 Apr 2015, 05:12
Nice.

If I may though, you will have to set up schedules and dates for the events themselves, like the official debates and conferences, because of timezones. From experience, if there is no schedule and people are free to do things all day, then it will remain very sparse and chaotic, and not very focused. So, not very different than what you already see on the summit when politics suddenly happen. It doesn't prevent people to RP and speak between themselves besides at their times of convenience, but you need properly scheduled conferences, at least to bring people to formalize and concretize what they have been debating all day informally.

Then, you also have mailing lists at your disposal. I would suggest to heavily make use of those, for every comission, etc.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 24 Apr 2015, 05:18
Wow, nice outline. Seems like a good time, to be honest. I'm looking forward to attending.

Thanks :D I am glad it is enthusing people!

Running it through May makes its slightly interesting for me, as the first week and a half I will be very busy irl with exams. I'm still interested in getting involved but I may have to start off in something of an observers role.

Ah the joys of exams, best of luck by the way! :) But yes I am hoping the length and breadth of the event will give people plenty of time to accommodate their real life demands :)

Nice.

If I may though, you will have to set up schedules and dates for the events themselves, like the official debates and conferences, because of timezones. From experience, if there is no schedule and people are free to do things all day, then it will remain very sparse and chaotic, and not very focused. So, not very different than what you already see on the summit when politics suddenly happen. It doesn't prevent people to RP and speak between themselves besides at their times of convenience, but you need properly scheduled conferences, at least to bring people to formalize and concretize what they have been debating all day informally.

Then, you also have mailing lists at your disposal. I would suggest to heavily make use of those, for every comission, etc.

Definitely, as I mentioned it is still a rough outline (just a bit more than the plain idea of a conference I had when starting this thread). :) I will assuredly be giving set times and dates for the main central milestones of the conference. And each commission, and the congress itself will have a mailing list, the dates and times for the commissions though will be arranged by the members of the commission specifically.

But yes fear not there will be some definite structure to this event to help keep things purposeful and coherent, I just always like to keep people in the loop as things develop and evolve so I can work in any feedback they give me. :D
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 24 Apr 2015, 12:17
Huh, interesting way of doing this.

Here are my questions: How much are you expecting to go on per day? Because if you are asking people to show up for multiple-hour-long speeches and discussions for several days each week - I will warn you right now, people are going to start bailing.

If, on the other hand, this is merely meant to provide a framework of times for people to be involved within which RP can develop as it pleases, that's a different matter. Of course, it may be difficult to get everyone on the same level then.

I guess the big questions I have are:
- How many days of each week are you expecting 'mandatory' RP events to be on?
- How many hours are you expecting each days' event to run? (Note: I suggest adding 2-3 hours to your estimates.)
- What events can still be run if people are continually filtering in and out?
- What time limits should be placed on thing like major speeches and turns at debate (to prevent things from running on too long)?
- For events run at regular times over the weeks - what about people who cannot make those times?

My initial intuition is that this might be better done in a smaller, tighter timeframe - perhaps 2 weeks instead of four. I'm concerned that by the end, burnout will be hitting people hard and they'll be simply failing to show up. But, that's just a suggestion - not a demand.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 24 Apr 2015, 12:35
I see the proposed site is in Genesis, which is good. That means most legit pilots can attend. However there is only one station in system. So where will all those diplomatic shuttles be going to and from?
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 24 Apr 2015, 13:10
Maybe from Yulai to Pakshi ?
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Ché Biko on 24 Apr 2015, 13:24
My initial intuition is that this might be better done in a smaller, tighter timeframe - perhaps 2 weeks instead of four. I'm concerned that by the end, burnout will be hitting people hard and they'll be simply failing to show up. But, that's just a suggestion - not a demand.
Alternately, spread it out over a longer period and have weeks in between with no formal conference stuff going on.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Ché Biko on 24 Apr 2015, 13:26
So where will all those diplomatic shuttles be going to and from?
Also, maybe the commissions could decide a more convenient meeting point for their sessions. Caldari Prime could be a logical choice for Caldari-Gallente issues, for example.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Lyn Farel on 24 Apr 2015, 13:36
Personally I would do like Ché suggests. An event per week that can be the focus point. And maybe more little ones dedicated to every commission...
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Letos on 24 Apr 2015, 13:41
Nice ideas so far! Four weeks is an impressive timeframe. It could reduce the number of people actively following through the whole thing. To focus decentralized working groups, negotiations, and debates it could be helpfull to have some fixed deadlines when working papers have to be submitted in order to put them on the agenda of a formal debate. Independent groups could work out their own schedule while the results would be gathered and discussed in formal assemblies. Those working papers would also allow the not so deeply involved audience to get into the topics and debates. Or something like that^^
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Thal Vadam on 24 Apr 2015, 15:18
Sounds very fun. I've actually attended a conference as such IRL. Was a lot of fun and I can't wait to excperiance it ICly.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 24 Apr 2015, 16:04
Huh, interesting way of doing this.

Here are my questions: How much are you expecting to go on per day? Because if you are asking people to show up for multiple-hour-long speeches and discussions for several days each week - I will warn you right now, people are going to start bailing.

If, on the other hand, this is merely meant to provide a framework of times for people to be involved within which RP can develop as it pleases, that's a different matter. Of course, it may be difficult to get everyone on the same level then.

I guess the big questions I have are:
- How many days of each week are you expecting 'mandatory' RP events to be on?
- How many hours are you expecting each days' event to run? (Note: I suggest adding 2-3 hours to your estimates.)
- What events can still be run if people are continually filtering in and out?
- What time limits should be placed on thing like major speeches and turns at debate (to prevent things from running on too long)?
- For events run at regular times over the weeks - what about people who cannot make those times?

My initial intuition is that this might be better done in a smaller, tighter timeframe - perhaps 2 weeks instead of four. I'm concerned that by the end, burnout will be hitting people hard and they'll be simply failing to show up. But, that's just a suggestion - not a demand.

Hey Esna, thanks for the thoughts and questions they are very helpful. I will answer each in turn :)

How much are you expecting to go on per day?
This will vary depending on the week: during the weeks were the General Congress is in session I am looking at one 2-3 hour event a week, the Commissions however are more self-directed with their own internal events and so is open to the negotiation between the members thereof.

How many days of each week are you expecting 'mandatory' RP events to be on?
During the General Congress weeks there will be one event a day, 2-3 hours long.

How many hours are you expecting each days' event to run?
For the General Congress 2-3 hours, as for the commissions that is for the individual on them to decide internally. Press conferences at the end of each week will last one hour no longer, the social events will undoubtedly drag on but the 'official' part of them will only be 2-3 hours.

What events can still be run if people are continually filtering in and out?
Plenty. :) I am not sure if you've ever seen a General Assembly session of the UN but delegations are constantly coming and going, some never arriving, etc. sometimes it is a statement and other times just a matter of limited time/resources. Of course determining whether a character is absent out of conflicting commitments or neglect/political statement is something that will be an exciting IC interaction. I will be structuring each event of the conference to facilitate the filtering in and out of people.

What time limits should be placed on thing like major speeches and turns at debate?
This is something I would prefer to be decided IC during the first session. As much as possible I prefer not to limit IC interactions by deciding OOCly aspects which could lead to conflict: for example Arkon as chair will be enforcing a time limit regardless, but if no one brings it up and decides it in the first session characters may see his enforcement as haphazard or politically motivated.

I see the proposed site is in Genesis, which is good. That means most legit pilots can attend. However there is only one station in system. So where will all those diplomatic shuttles be going to and from?

Yes I figured it worked nicely, though I also like saying Pakhshi Peace Plan - I will let you decide which was a bigger influence on my decision ;)

As Ché suggests the commissions will no doubt set locations that aren't in Pakhshi and so shuttles will be running between the various locations. Also the commissions are free to ask the organising committee for "statistics" or "resources" and these items may not be found in Pakhshi so the shuttles will be running all over picking up things. :)

Nice ideas so far! Four weeks is an impressive timeframe. It could reduce the number of people actively following through the whole thing. To focus decentralized working groups, negotiations, and debates it could be helpfull to have some fixed deadlines when working papers have to be submitted in order to put them on the agenda of a formal debate. Independent groups could work out their own schedule while the results would be gathered and discussed in formal assemblies. Those working papers would also allow the not so deeply involved audience to get into the topics and debates. Or something like that^^

Again I think setting these deadlines OOC would limit IC interactions. :) Deadlines, procedures of debate, etc. would be something that would be negotiated during the first session of the General Congress in its first two meetings. As I have said previously I am of the opinion that putting these structures in place as a result of OOC rather than via IC negotiation limits RP - it denies people the chance to manipulate the structure for their IC political agenda, removes the opportunity for intense debate/outrage/exciting compromise because a lot of what causes consternation during conference is the structure and procedures of the conference itself.

And the notion of the informal working groups giving feedback to the general assembly is exactly what the commissions are. :) They are the small groups with interest/expertise in a given area who develop the proposed solution to the issue, writing the proposed clause for the peace plan, and then submitting it to the General Congress. :) How they develop these proposed clauses will be a diverse mix of RP as determined by the members of the commission: mailing list, physical/holo meetings, etc.


Thank you all for the awesome feedback, I am very glad for it as it is helping me tighten up and make more coherent the outline for the event OOCly :) I am certain that by the end of this weekend I should have an outline that addresses many of the concerns and incorporates the feedback you've all given and continue to give. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Utari Onzo on 25 Apr 2015, 10:38
I want in on this so bad.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Jace on 25 Apr 2015, 13:21
This idea is a good idea. As a political scientist I really want to be involved, but I don't have any currently active characters that would really do it. Some future ones are planned that would, but alas.
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 25 Apr 2015, 19:00
I want in on this so bad.

Hehe I hope you will be involved :D Arkon was dropping hints in our last RP ;)

This idea is a good idea. As a political scientist I really want to be involved, but I don't have any currently active characters that would really do it. Some future ones are planned that would, but alas.

Always nice to hear that you aren't crazy and the only person who likes an idea XD But that is a shame to hear, perhaps though when the fully fleshed out proposal is up you might find one of your existing characters could get involved? :D Even if only to sit in on a press conference or general congress session - I am sure shouting from the public galleries will be quite amusing :D
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Integra Valentine on 26 Apr 2015, 17:33
This is an awesome idea! Is anyone welcome? Or only those from certain RP circles?
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 26 Apr 2015, 19:27
This is an awesome idea! Is anyone welcome? Or only those from certain RP circles?

Anyone whose character it makes sense for to be there are most welcome :D So as I said in the original post Sansha's or pirates, those characters whose loyalty to illegal factions as defined by CONCORD is public knowledge, may have trouble convincing the committee but no one else should have an issue - this is all IC of course, if you are loyal to one of those illegal factions but it is not known widely or capable of being discovered presently then again you would be welcome. :D

Looking forward to seeing you there, always great to have new peeps :D


I can also say I will definitely have the outline done by today, the information packet for delegates/press/staff also done, a list of roles I would like to have a hand with from people in the community, and all the channels will also be done by today. :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Integra Valentine on 26 Apr 2015, 19:36
Awesome! Can't wait! I would very much like to come and be all gangsta and shiz ;) just kidding, I will be a polite young lady, can't wait for the IC announcement :D

Hope it is badass! For peace of course.. Yes.. Badass peace.. Best peace :

Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 26 Apr 2015, 19:53
Can people with no loyalty, like Halfrek, be there just to watch?
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 26 Apr 2015, 20:08
Awesome! Can't wait! I would very much like to come and be all gangsta and shiz ;) just kidding, I will be a polite young lady, can't wait for the IC announcement :D

Hope it is badass! For peace of course.. Yes.. Badass peace.. Best peace :

Glad to hear it :D

Can people with no loyalty, like Halfrek, be there just to watch?

Definitely! :D The General Congress has a public/press section for just that (and I am sure cheering or jeering from the viewing area will happen ;) ), and there are also press conferences open to anyone :)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Arkon Sarain on 28 Apr 2015, 17:32
Hey All! :D

So good and semi-bad news. The bad first, in light of changes to my RL schedule I have had to compact the conference down to two weeks rather than the full month.

However the better part: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5706000#post5706000 (https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5706000#post5706000) The conference is now announced! :D

So shoot me mails in-game applying and I will respond with the information packet :D

Looking forward to it gang o7
-A
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Ché Biko on 11 May 2015, 11:36
Looks like this will be my char selection screen for a while:
(http://s27.postimg.org/3js7n0v2r/PPCCh.png)
Title: Re: [EVENT] - Peace Conference - Interest Check
Post by: Ché Biko on 26 May 2015, 14:52
Ché docking at Pakhshi in his ship "Axi Arkon Sarain", formerly named "Axi Pakhshi Promise":
(http://s18.postimg.org/3n5obmw0p/Arriving_at_PPC.png)