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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Tacitrain on 30 May 2010, 17:32
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I'm not sure if this thread should go here, but I just read the chron on translators. However, there are multiple chrons that show non-capsuleers conversing between races with no translation, or any mention of a language barrier. Whats up with that?
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Maybe not everyone is monolingual?
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Just wondering if I missed something.
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No. Some people also use the explanation that they are running stuff through a translator via (or in) implants in real time, too. Or that translation is pretty trivial. (I usually figure that if an iPhone can do it, they can probably do it in Eve.)
As far as I know, it isn't addressed in PF anywhere.
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Aside from the possibility of real-time translation and that capsuleers are highly multilingual (it makes sense, given that extraordinary willpower and memory seem to be basic requirements for capsuleership), there's also the possibility that what we "speak" is in fact a hybrid of many different languages, with the bits we don't understand covered by real-time translation.
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I make use of Seriphyn's implants as a plot device very often. He is able to identify other capsuleers due to them (which would explain why we also approach PCs in RP bars as opposed to random NPCs :lol: ) and the language is translated via the implants too.
Seriphyn otherwise only speaks the main Gallentean dialect, Intaki and Caldanese (or Caldari, whichever you lot call it now)
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Most of the older Caldari are highly likely to also know Gallentean. Nearly all Minmatar speak Amarrish. Know these two languages, and you're understood everywhere in the cluster. Admitted, speaking Gallentean in the State might these days get you a few ugly looks, so if you do business dominantly in the State, you might want to replace Gallentean with Napanii (or Caldanese or what's it called?).
Though the answer to the mentioned spots in Prime Fiction is that in space opera, every planet has a human-breathable atmosphere and all aliens speak English.
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Seriphyn otherwise only speaks the main Gallentean dialect, Intaki and Caldanese (or Caldari, whichever you lot call it now)
Some people say its Caldanese, others Napanii.
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"Caldarian"?
/me runs
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I think the Caldanese / Napanii thing would have a very simple solution. The modern language is Caldanese, whereas Napanii was the language of the Raata Empire (and subsequently the lingua franca on Caldari Prime until the Gallente made contact). The Caldanese is thus a descendant of Napanii with some Gallentean influences. (Hm, wasn't there a thread about Caldari language somewhere here...)
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That was my take on it, Mithfindel.
Caldanese would be the widely-understood language used across the State, or more properly the language family most common in the State. With so many people and places, dialects and sister languages would be common. Napanii would be the antiquated form of "pure" or "proper" Caldanese that was used on Caldari Prime pre-spaceflight.
Edit: Another thought- it may be most appropriate to assume the versions of these languages that capsuleers are likely to speak are the "space dialects". There are millions upon millions of people living on space stations and ships in New Eden. With the specialized vocab needed, unique international culture, and confined (relatively) environs of ships and stations, that's plenty of fertile ground for any language to develop a new offshoot in space.
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Seriphyn otherwise only speaks the main Gallentean dialect, Intaki and Caldanese (or Caldari, whichever you lot call it now)
I can think of a few RP's that might of gone a fraction of a bit better if I the player had known he was speaking Intaki without a translator... *laughs* There was an assumption it was standard Gallentean and therefore the talk of the time about appreciate the Intaki culture came across as false.
Mild side topic; but I've always maintained to myself that you can tell what language a person is speaking even if the translator "fixes" it for you. Which makes you appreciate when the translators aren't needed. Just my 2 isk.