Backstage - OOC Forums
EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => CCP Public Library => Topic started by: kalaratiri on 13 May 2013, 12:12
-
Click. (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/And_I_Shall_Hide_%28Chronicle%29)
Edit:
Now I've had time to read it, I've decided I like it quite a lot. Although, (and this is likely intentional) I am struggling as to differentiating between what is said by Jamyl and what is said by the Other. I'm also very curious about the other nations working on purging themselves of Dust soldiers, that seems an odd move. I liked the courtroom politics though :P
-
Hmm. Interesting.
-
... I am struggling as to differentiating between what is said by Jamyl and what is said by the Other.
[spoiler]Try reading the version linked at the end (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/And_I_Shall_Hide_-_Alternate_(Chronicle)).[/spoiler]
-
... I am struggling as to differentiating between what is said by Jamyl and what is said by the Other.
[spoiler]Try reading the version linked at the end (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/And_I_Shall_Hide_-_Alternate_(Chronicle)).[/spoiler]
Wahey, managed to totally miss that.
-
Interesting. My immediate reaction was "blegh" because insanity, but I do like the way Jamyl is handling it. I'd like to see her actually conquer it.
Also, Ardishapur, Khanid, and Articio got some nice descriptions. And it was nice to see some stuff from Catiz.
Also, according to Falcon this chronicle takes place back in mid-February.
-
She's gone from drug fuelled lesbian orgy Zombie Empress to St Alia of the Knife.
I approve in this change of direction.
-
Empress!
Anyways, I read it and liked it. I think that means I've read all of six chronicles now.
-
There, then, is another reason I forgo servants as frequently as possible. Certain sensations bring these memories flooding to me and I don't know if they are my own or merely some trick the Other has planted in me. Maybe they are memories of the Other, fragments of its dreaming sleep.
I get the impression that they are injecting doubt into the memories of lesbian orgies. Perhaps through the old trope of "It was all a dream". Is this more of pretending that TonyG never happened?
-
Also I believe this is the first clear mention I've read that
[spoiler]the Other is the real Falek Grange.[/spoiler]
Can't remember if there were any pointers to it in TEA, haven't read Templar One.
On the writing: One of the first times in a long time anything from CCP has made me go "WOW".
-
I'd just like to say to whoever it was who recently suggested that Khanid cloned himself: I owe you a drink!
-
I really, really hope Jamyl beats the Other. Would be nice to have a stable leader again.
-
I'd just like to say to whoever it was who recently suggested that Khanid cloned himself: I owe you a drink!
It is suggested even in Evelopedia. Also, while he's much much younger than Heideran was, not being an old somewhat senile guy pretty much speaks volumes.
I did also like Khanid's attitude there. I feel kind of bad that the Heirs - who probably are all masters of court intrigue, even Yonis - were shown as childlike, but as far as Amarrian nobles go, Khanid has centuries worth of experience on anything related to being a Holder and staying alive as a Holder.
-
About midway through the second version of the story, I realized that The Other sounds like s/he posts regularly to threads which don't directly concern it on IGS. The sort of pointless, third-party, nonconstructive needling that makes the criticizer infinitely slappable.
I can't say I like Jamyl, but I can find nothing but contempt for the Other.
-
I know, I really want to save her from it. :(
Maybe we can get sent into wormholes to find a doohickey that can pry the Other out of her brain? That'd be epic.
-
I am thrilled to discover that I've been backing the right people all along. 8)
I see damned cool things developing out of this, the sort of cool complexities that the Amarr faction in particular can go above and beyond with.
I'm still unconvinced that we players will have even the slightest impact on it, or if we should expend an iota of effort to try to become involved.
It's a nice TV show, but my sword is still on the wall gathering rust.
-
Khanid II continues to be the complete badass he is.
The hell with your sacred flesh, I'm going to stay young and outlive all you bastards -forever-.
Love love love it.
-
I'd really like an exorcism right about now to get rid of the TonyG possession in her.
-
I'd really like an exorcism right about now to get rid of the TonyG possession in her.
-
For the first time, they managed to make me like Jamyl. Always hated her, since the beginning of her return to every word in TEA, and most of the news event since have been a bit... unbalanced, really not giving another real image of her. But this has done exactly that, to portray her in a "human" way, show her lights and her shadows, and start giving some serious background into her.
And all that in the best scene possible: courtly intrigue. Hell yeah!
-
The oval table we occupy supposedly dates back to the first Council of Apostles founded thousands of years ago by Emperor Amash-Akura.
<_<
>_>
*Drapes the TS-F banner over it*
-
If they do get rid of the Empress, I'd like to see a some more female leadership in New Eden.
I know of the Empress, that ex-SOE in Syndicate, and that one Heir 'Cat-something.'
-
If they do get rid of the Empress, I'd like to see a some more female leadership in New Eden.
I know of the Empress, that ex-SOE in Syndicate, and that one Heir 'Cat-something.'
Catiz Tash-Murkon
-
The oval table we occupy supposedly dates back to the first Council of Apostles founded thousands of years ago by Emperor Amash-Akura.
<_<
>_>
*Drapes the TS-F banner over it*
I would dearly love to steal that table.
-
Thank you.
-
I love thsi cron. I love the court intrigue, I love that Jamyl is quite sane behind the veil of 'loco' brough upon her by the ever-present mind-rape.
Seriously, she had a goal and a dream in mind when she was young, and through her life things have gone down-hill. Now she has achieved that dream, but there is a stowaway hiding in her own mind, taunting her. Perhaps the only way to get it out is to put a golden gun under her jaw and squeeze the trigger for a bit, or perhaps she will drive it out. Either way, the Empress of the biggest faction in this game is one bad-ass woman - she knows what she wants and needs and actually, GENUINELY give a damn about the Empire. Perhaps she is not faithful, as per her own claims, but she's TRYING - in spite of the conditions she's been brought to, to do what she considers best for her nation and people. The voice in her head can go fuck itself, she's in control and she will do what is right, darn it! ;)
I would follow a leader like that. Troubled and messed-up right now yeah, but her heart is in the right place and her mind logically realize the danger - mental and physical - she's in, and tries to deal with it.
Jamyl Sarum is a strong, though troubled female character. Thank you CCP Eterne, thank you so much.
-
On female leaders: There's quite a few CEOs who are women. Haatakan Oiritsuu (well, not a CEO currently/yet) and Kuikiainen Onita (SuVee CEO) are probably the two most powerful women in the State.
-
I love thsi cron. I love the court intrigue, I love that Jamyl is quite sane behind the veil of 'loco' brough upon her by the ever-present mind-rape.
Seriously, she had a goal and a dream in mind when she was young, and through her life things have gone down-hill. Now she has achieved that dream, but there is a stowaway hiding in her own mind, taunting her. Perhaps the only way to get it out is to put a golden gun under her jaw and squeeze the trigger for a bit, or perhaps she will drive it out. Either way, the Empress of the biggest faction in this game is one bad-ass woman - she knows what she wants and needs and actually, GENUINELY give a damn about the Empire. Perhaps she is not faithful, as per her own claims, but she's TRYING - in spite of the conditions she's been brought to, to do what she considers best for her nation and people. The voice in her head can go fuck itself, she's in control and she will do what is right, darn it! ;)
I would follow a leader like that. Troubled and messed-up right now yeah, but her heart is in the right place and her mind logically realize the danger - mental and physical - she's in, and tries to deal with it.
Jamyl Sarum is a strong, though troubled female character. Thank you CCP Eterne, thank you so much.
So much this.
-
For the first time, they managed to make me like Jamyl. Always hated her, since the beginning of her return to every word in TEA, and most of the news event since have been a bit... unbalanced, really not giving another real image of her. But this has done exactly that, to portray her in a "human" way, show her lights and her shadows, and start giving some serious background into her.
And all that in the best scene possible: courtly intrigue. Hell yeah!
Watch out. A recent chron gave us an awesome glimpse of a tempermental, shrewd Karin Midular, and she wound up dead.
-
The first read shows her struggling, the second shows how strong she is. This is awesome :]
-
I think people give TonyG wayyyyyyyyyyyy too much grief about the lesbian orgies.
I mean, can you think of a bit of PF more influenced by players? I mean, shes a capsuleer, you telling me players dont RP lesbian orgies among capsuleers all the time?
(yes, this is tongue in cheek)
-
(yes, this is tongue in cheek)
As it were...
-
(yes, this is tongue in cheek)
As it were...
(http://i.imgur.com/FqwMpQE.png)
-
I actually really enjoyed that. I rather hope Jamyl doesn't just get killed off. She's pretty badass.
-
See, this Chron just makes me want to go back and reexamine an idea I had months and months ago about Uraniae going crazy because of her time spent in Anoikis. I had this little idea of trying to coordinate another player being there, watching whatever Ura was doing or saying, and privately whispering things to her via another channel. The idea being she would be like one of those Driver's Education cars with two steering wheels. The other person would be watching things unfold, and at any time interject a bit of different personality and mannerisms that I'd have to play out.
Seriously good read. I may be a bad example of being Amarrian...but I do love my Empress.
-
I liked this one a lot because it was quite similar in theme to my ancient EC stories.
Listen to the voice, Jamyl. It's got great things... in mind.
-
I very much liked this one and it redeemed Jamyl a lot in my eyes. I would very much like to see her shake off the Other so that she can stand on her own. Catiz Tash-Murkon continues to be my favorite heir, for obvious reasons. :) Ardishapur and Khanid get a lot of good character moments as well.
Uriam Kador really feels like the odd man out, though. Writing my my latest TMDC article on the Amarr heirs (going out this week I think), there really isn't that much out there about him. Aside from his invasion of the Federation for Quantum Rise, his sheltering of Eturrer, and some flings with some Gallente women, he seems like a bit of an enigma. Everyone else seems to have a bit more meat (even though the Evelopedia entry for Catiz is similarly skimpy).
-
The only weird thingy is that Eterne calls Khanid a HEIR :eek: (or lets say, the narrator :eek: ). I thought that topic was already clean up by Abraxes :( (see Talk Page on the Amarr NPC page (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Talk:Amarr_%28NPCs%29))..... As he cant have this status for the sake of the TC, Ardishapur family, the other Heirs and the stability of the Empire etc.... (could add more reasons to this old comment here (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=3400.msg53411#msg53411)).
-
Well, he's not an actual heir, but he WAS at one point...and he is on the Privy Council.
-
The only weird thingy is that Eterne calls Khanid a HEIR :eek: (or lets say, the narrator :eek: ). I thought that topic was already clean up by Abraxes :( (see Talk Page on the Amarr NPC page (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Talk:Amarr_%28NPCs%29))..... As he cant have this status for the sake of the TC, Ardishapur family, the other Heirs and the stability of the Empire etc.... (could add more reasons to this old comment here (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=3400.msg53411#msg53411)).
No, he clearly goes out of his way to point out that Khanid is not an Heir in the establishing phase of the chronicle:
"My empress, the Heirs have arrived at Dam-Torsad," he says in a flat, even voice. "As well as the Lord Councilor."
The Heirs I can all manage, with varying degrees of difficulty. Garkeh Khanid, however, is a bag of vipers dressed as a man.
-
self-censorship
-
I don't see you asking any questions.
Unless you're talking about the questions you asked months ago on the eve forums about Khanid and the legal status of the Kingdom. Those wouldn't really have much to do with this chronicle.
-
I made Publius ragequit again? Now I want to see what he wrote.