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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Alizabeth on 26 Jan 2013, 18:13
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So, once the HBC/CFC crisis was resolved, dearest Mittens (who loves me along with Rydis :P) finally got around to hiring me for themittani.com. As far as I know, I am the only RPer on staff there. So, when I'm not writing blindingly insightful analysis of null sec events, I'll be
padding my wallet rounding out my writing with RP articles. So, if you would like to see something covered, just use this thread and your Goonswarm propagandist trustworthy gumshoe reporter will look into it.
(That was funny, see? Laugh)
FAQ:
Q: But, Aliza the RP community hates you! How can you be expected to write about RP? A: It doesn't matter. My reporting will be as unbiased as I can make it. My end goal is to improve the RP community and get it more exposure in Eve. The writing and editorial staff believes strongly in our site and wants it to do well. None of us are going to turn into EN24.
Q: Isn't themittani.com just Goon propaganda? A: No! We have staff from all over Eve. Again, we want our site to become successful and propaganda doesn't help that
Q: I'm doing this thing. Will you cover it? A: I can try, but RP feature articles can take a long time to get published. Like all news sites we have to respond to the news of the day and if the Drone Coalition invades the N3 people, then that's going to be on the front page for a while. Odds are that stuff with official CCP involvement will get more immediate and prominent coverage. This doesn't mean that I won't try my best!
Alizabeth, staff writer, themittani.com
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So, once the HBC/CFC crisis was resolved
I miss when Null Sec Alliances had balls :cry: :cry:
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So, once the HBC/CFC crisis was resolved
I miss when Null Sec Alliances had balls :cry: :cry:
I miss when Alliances was indeed alliances and worked on their own, ala ASCN, BoB, RED, POS, etc.
On topic: Isis, I don't think there is a reason to claim the whole RP community hates you. Might some individuals that dislike you/Goons/both but it's far from everyone.
With that, good luck with this.
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Not to hijack the thread, but coalitions are simply the next step in the evolution of player relationships. For awhile, remember it was all about individual corps, with examples like Reikoku and Jericho Fraction, and then alliances became possible and dominated the landscape. I just wish CCP would formalize coalitions, primarily by giving us the ability to make binding treaties in-game.
As far as RP coverage? Could help encourage some fresh blood, or it could dissuade events if and when droves of people show up for lulz. The whole "I cast magic missle" crowd. Still, call me cautiously optimistic.
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Not to hijack the thread, but coalitions are simply the next step in the evolution of player relationships. For awhile, remember it was all about individual corps, with examples like Reikoku and Jericho Fraction, and then alliances became possible and dominated the landscape. I just wish CCP would formalize coalitions, primarily by giving us the ability to make binding treaties in-game.
The question becomes how is it bound, short of If you betray me I will grind you into dust.
As far as RP coverage? Could help encourage some fresh blood, or it could dissuade events if and when droves of people show up for lulz. The whole "I cast magic missle" crowd. Still, call me cautiously optimistic.
I think any RP coverage may be "delayed" until after the story arc completes/wraps up or is a discussion about how a story arc was executed and how the forum warrioring connected with "stuff in space."
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Not to hijack the thread, but coalitions are simply the next step in the evolution of player relationships. For awhile, remember it was all about individual corps, with examples like Reikoku and Jericho Fraction, and then alliances became possible and dominated the landscape. I just wish CCP would formalize coalitions, primarily by giving us the ability to make binding treaties in-game.
And coalitions of coalitions ? Coalitions within coalitions within coalitions... :P
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:wut:
We will see how this develops :roll:
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On topic: Isis, I don't think there is a reason to claim the whole RP community hates you. Might some individuals that dislike you/Goons/both but it's far from everyone.
With that, good luck with this.
Everything I write is a little tongue in cheek.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6OYGEoWKYk
This describes me when I am not an internet spaceship sociopath. I mean, hell, I joked with the doctor when I thought I was on my death bed. (Not that he found it funny mind you.)
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Not to hijack the thread, but coalitions are simply the next step in the evolution of player relationships. For awhile, remember it was all about individual corps, with examples like Reikoku and Jericho Fraction, and then alliances became possible and dominated the landscape. I just wish CCP would formalize coalitions, primarily by giving us the ability to make binding treaties in-game.
And coalitions of coalitions ? Coalitions within coalitions within coalitions... :P
It's called "Pre-WWI Europe". And man, wouldn't that be a sight to see if someone kicked the whole system over...
*Edit: For some reason, my cursor was not where I thought it was...
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I am not sure to understand what you mean ?
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http://themittani.com/news/asakai-aftermath-all-over-cobalt-moon
Holy crap. Long fight spent by a longer time interview and writing. For the RPers out there, the death toll for crewmen was around a million.
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Some RPers don't care about the casualties. Personally I find it much more fun to see friends on titan killmails. Props to my HBC friends and CFC people for making goodfights happen.
On topic: congrats on your new spacejob.
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I'd like to add a calraification it wasn't a DnD hics that did the initial tackle. It was a single URIEL heavey interdictor. Namely, me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQHv0FrgrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQHv0FrgrE)
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Nice article, Aliza :)
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I'd like to add a calraification it wasn't a DnD hics that did the initial tackle. It was a single URIEL heavey interdictor. Namely, me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQHv0FrgrE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTQHv0FrgrE)
I did hear your named being called out quite a bit on mumble. If my deadline hadn't had been so tight, I would have loved to take the time to talk to everyone that I knew was there. Sadly, there is never enough time.
Nice article, Aliza :)
Thanks! When they were asking in jabber, I snatched this up so fast. I knew it would be challenging and grueling. But once it got published, I knew it was worth not sleeping that night.
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Amazing - and it sounds like more lives and material were expended in that one unplanned brawl than in a year's worth of Faction War.
Giants in the playground...
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I did like the article as a whole tho. Credit where it's due :)
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Not to hijack the thread, but coalitions are simply the next step in the evolution of player relationships. For awhile, remember it was all about individual corps, with examples like Reikoku and Jericho Fraction, and then alliances became possible and dominated the landscape. I just wish CCP would formalize coalitions, primarily by giving us the ability to make binding treaties in-game.
And coalitions of coalitions ? Coalitions within coalitions within coalitions... :P
Hey, nothing wrong with that.
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Bitches need to die. An epic Cluster War every few years should be the natural cycle.
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Bitches need to die. An epic Cluster War every few years should be the natural cycle.
Nope. The tech must flow. Mittens doesn't want to have to get a real job.
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Bitches need to die. An epic Cluster War every few years should be the natural cycle.
Nope. The tech must flow. Mittens doesn't want to have to get a real job.
:lol:
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Mittani dines on babies, the blood of virgins and Tech. Mmmmmmm, tech.
Also http://themittani.com/features/adding-flavor-sandbox-eve-rp is up.
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http://themittani.com/features/asakai-post-mortem-interview-ccp-veritas\
Unlike the other Eve news site, we get CCP interviews. That's some god damn journalism right there.
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http://themittani.com/features/asakai-post-mortem-interview-ccp-veritas\
Unlike the other Eve news site, we get CCP interviews. That's some god damn journalism right there.
Yeah, because you don't publish internal documents in an attempt to make CCP look bad.
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This actually came up in discussion among the writers. We, themittani.com staff, like Eve. We like CCP, as well. If there's an issue that comes up that CCP needs a gentle correction on, we'll publish it. But we're not going to be adversarial with CCP; we're not going to go out of our way to antagonize them just for some point about how independent we are. That way lies madness.
Side note: http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74227 Why yes, that is CCP Manifest linking my article.
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Kalaratiri −
Incident in question aside, you're not exactly what I expect the RP community would pick as its representative/public face/etc though Aliza. In fact, I'd be impressed if you managed to write "Barging into a roleplay channel claiming to be the best pilot or most powerful man in the cluster will begin a roleplaying career poorly" without breaking into a nervous tick. It seems more likely that you're writing here because of your corporation and 'relationship' with Mittens than anything else.
/BitterBitter
From the RP article.
I just want to clear up something. I don't claim to represent the community. I don't think that any one person, no matter how long they've been RPing could claim to represent the community. My goal is to write good articles about things in Eve, not to play propagandist for the RP community. I get paid, quite well, to write for TheMittani.com and to be quite frank, squandering both that ISK and the opportunity for cool things like CCP interviews and hell, interviewing Elise was awesome too, is not worth it just to write a few hit pieces (that wouldn't get published anyways.)
If someone wants to write an article "on behalf of the RP community" (no doubt explaining what an asshole that Aliza is) they are more than welcome to use the feature for that on the site. If someone wants to write for the site, use the feature, get in touch with an editor.
As I am the only one on staff that RPs, I'm going to be writing more. Some articles I can write myself, using my experiences and knowledge. Most I will probably reach out to someone in the community for an interview or something. If I reach out to someone, it's going to be an honest piece. (Remember that scene in Firefly where Simon Tam tells Jayne that as long as he's on the table, he's safe? Same deal. If I approach you in my capacity as a TheMittani.com writer, it's serious space news stuff.)
Lastly, Aliza is not godmoding sleeping with Mittens. ;)
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The article is a decent overview of rp as seen from the earliest stages through to the gritty, factional, snippy environment we know and love in 'maturity' (just before bittervet death). The identify of the author is irrelevant in good material, and tbh I prefer to stay relatively out of the loop with regards to the irl overlap implied in a lot of the comments.
I think that this is currently a good thing for us, as it is exposure at the very least, and those of us who want to put our words out there have a potential avenue to discuss the requirements of doing so. So long as we all remain aware that all media outlets are fickle beasts that feed on drama, we can start to widen the base of publication that I feel we need to do; as CCP wholly neglects 'new player interaction' with regards to RP - Live Events are steeped in enough lore to make them somewhat mystical to newer roleplayers.
As for the e-rp accusations/claims/whatever, as I personally don't really find appeal or engage in romantic or erotic roleplay I leave you with this image of what the section of my brain reading the back and forth on that content (including twitter) now resembles:
(http://learn.bowdoin.edu/italian/dante/images/Constantine_Hell-640x266.jpg)
EDIT - rejigged some sentences for clarity - lazy poster was initially lazy. Unlazification has been done to it.
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Wow, the last time I saw something this cleared out I was at . . . naw, not going there today.
New article up on the N3. (Hamish!)
I remember once being in empire and reading about things like the fall of the old NC and wishing I was there. If you're in a similar spot, I encourage you to join a null alliance. There a quite a number of them, there is one that fits your play style.
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New article up on the Caldari Civil War (that I devoutly hope turns all sorts of bloody). Hopefully the live events team keeps up with their events, cause, I need to pad my wallet more!
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Svetlana Scarlet's joined our staff and is busy making :words: Oddly enough, we're both working on articles about live events. They should hit back to back sometime this week.
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Svet just likes a good excuse to write ;)
I may need to write up an article in response to Mynnna's null-sec industry stuff given some real free time in the near future. I think a lot more of it has to do with player behavior vs mechanical limitations, especially as things have changed over time.
What is sites's policy on the inclusion of graphs and such?
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If graphics are needed to explain a point, then feel free. Feature articles are usually 800-1500 words. I don't know the policy on submissions, but make sure that it's distinct enough to where they feel it warrants a separate article, not just a response in the comments section, if that makes sense?
(I suspect this post will be moderated for 'urdoingitwrongness' here in about, oh, 20 minutes :P )
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Svet just likes a good excuse to write ;)
I may need to write up an article in response to Mynnna's null-sec industry stuff given some real free time in the near future. I think a lot more of it has to do with player behavior vs mechanical limitations, especially as things have changed over time.
What is sites's policy on the inclusion of graphs and such?
Just so you know, I think there is definitely a reluctance to post one-off pieces from random folks; less because your content won't be valued and more because they don't want to become a venue for everyone and their mothers' blog posts. At least, that was my feeling when I initially submitted the descriptive sovereignty article as a one-off (and then got convinced to join the staff instead). Something to keep in mind. :)
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If graphics are needed to explain a point, then feel free. Feature articles are usually 800-1500 words. I don't know the policy on submissions, but make sure that it's distinct enough to where they feel it warrants a separate article, not just a response in the comments section, if that makes sense?
(I suspect this post will be moderated for 'urdoingitwrongness' here in about, oh, 20 minutes :P )
I would frankly be frustrated that in providing info on how themittani.com operates someone would ask for the post to be taken down. :s
Comments are alright, but can leave much to be desired for complicated discussion and presentation of alternative viewpoints. This is however a general problem and not isolated to themittani.com
Just so you know, I think there is definitely a reluctance to post one-off pieces from random folks; less because your content won't be valued and more because they don't want to become a venue for everyone and their mothers' blog posts. At least, that was my feeling when I initially submitted the descriptive sovereignty article as a one-off (and then got convinced to join the staff instead). Something to keep in mind. :)
Good to know. I am busy enough for RL that getting in the game time I want can be a challenge, so writing articles is probably something I will just have to skip on.
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If you have a good article, go ahead and write it up and submit it. If you wish, write it in googledocs and I can take a look at it before you send it in for consideration. If they decide not to publish it, then just post it here in a gameplay forum or whatnot.
My experience was not the same as Svet's, so I can't speak about that. I do know, though, that quality writing does get looked at.
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http://themittani.com/features/live-events-historical-missteps
Part one of two articles examining live events. Svetlana has part two.
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For those of you who have been waiting with bated breath and who haven't already seen me spamming about this on one social media network or another, my article on Live Events is now up.
http://themittani.com/features/live-events-towards-better-live-events
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I really liked this one. Nicely written.
(Although, I'm not quite used to TMC having pages o.o At first I looked at the article and went "This is a bit short..." :D )
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I really liked this one. Nicely written.
(Although, I'm not quite used to TMC having pages o.o At first I looked at the article and went "This is a bit short..." :D )
It caught me by surprise too, that was something added in editing. It was a little dense though, so it may have been for the best. :)
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http://themittani.com/features/crash-course-international-relations
I found this article quiet interesting, even if it cuts to short and uses categories/classification which I wouldnt use (or arent in use mostly). It overall gives a nice "tip in".
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Good article; terrible platform.
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The articles I've been seeing over there are quite nice, you both have my congrats on good content (though I imagine the target audience would find them a mild curiosity at best, but hey).
I am wondering if the material Ava and I did will ever see publication. ;)
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The articles I've been seeing over there are quite nice, you both have my congrats on good content (though I imagine the target audience would find them a mild curiosity at best, but hey).
I am wondering if the material Ava and I did will ever see publication. ;)
Yes. It will. Eventually. I promise.
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We are dipping our toes cautiously into Space News, because everyone on staff loves spaceships and we've somehow found ourselves in NASA press conferences. If you're a Real Space News guru and have a SpaceX shirt and can tell me about the design evolution of the Falcon project without needing to consult wikipedia, we might have a weekly Space News Roundup column for you.
:eek:
I suppose I could write up a bit on what a hoverslam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ivr6JF1K-8&feature=youtu.be) is.
And yes, I am a Space (News) guru, have a SpaceX shirt (no you can't have it), and have resisted temptation to edit the wikipedia entry.
But when will I sleep?
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I've written a post-mortem of the Caldari Prime event, which may or may not be interesting to people here (it doesn't discuss much in the way of the actual storyline).
http://themittani.com/features/battle-caldari-prime-post-mortem
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Congratulations on the job. I'm enjoying the articles and hope you have a long and successful run on that site.
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Well, if you don't know who the Amarr heirs are, my latest article may be of interest to you:
http://themittani.com/features/eve-lore-spotlight-heirs-empire