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Origins:
A project arising from technoarchaeological expeditions in the Araz constellation, where the Takmahl civilisation once held sway.
The Takmahl, an ancient Sani Sabik group, that departed Amarr Prime in crude cryoships, before the invention of jump or warp drive, achieved great things in the fields of cybernetics and bioengineering.
Artifacts and documents recovered from the Takmahl ruins provided much information relating to the use of biodroids and other forms of servants.
Other technoxenology projects resulted in the acquisition of a drone intelligence.
Objective:
Project Synthetic Cultist was intended as a research tool to assist in the Interpretation of Scripture, such that modern Sani Sabik become more knowledgeable and Righteous.
Other objectives included demonstrating that a synthetic person may achieve Righteousness, thus validating the words of the Apocryphon, wherein it is Written that "All are Welcome" to be Gods Chosen.
Additionally, the theological questions surrounding the Rogue Drones may be answered. Can a Drone be a Chosen ?
Details:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa394/bloodnuns/Synthia.png)
The drone intelligence, through an interface and transmitter, communicates with the humaniform biodroid remote unit.
Synthetic Cultist stands around 1.55m tall, and masses around 55kg.
Operation:
Synthetic Cultist was activated in late YC113, and was made autonomous in September of that year, gaining flight certification via a Hedion University assessment course, where a candidate that was not instructed by Hedion may be certified as flight capable by passing a series of tests and exams.
Subsequent Developments:
Synthetic Cultist became known as "Synthia" through interactions with the capsuleer community, primarily through use of "The Summit" communication channel.
Synthia has become an enthusiastic evangelical Sani Sabik, and has made some profound discoveries through Interpretation of Scripture.
Through interactions with other capsuleers, Synthia has also become the mother of a child, and the theocratic monarch of Kaztropolis, a small city state.
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I think you want to say "you like it", Anslol. ;)
As for the post itself, I like how it's written, but I've always had conflicting views on robots in EVE. :?
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I think you want to say "you like it", Anslol. ;)
As for the post itself, I like how it's written, but I've always had conflicting views on robots in EVE. :?
My only confusion is the AI thing. I thought AI's were all GRARGHBANNED.
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While there are rules against developing new AI, the scientists involved in the project weren't exactly the type of people to be found on the faculty of Hedion University, so rules aren't easily applied to them.
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While there are rules against developing new AI, the scientists involved in the project weren't exactly the type of people to be found on the faculty of Hedion University, so rules aren't easily applied to them.
Fair enough, but if the authorities know about Synthia, wouldn't she be fodder? I'm just asking since I have no clue where she even hangs out.
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While there are rules against developing new AI, the scientists involved in the project weren't exactly the type of people to be found on the faculty of Hedion University, so rules aren't easily applied to them.
Fair enough, but if the authorities know about Synthia, wouldn't she be fodder? I'm just asking since I have no clue where she even hangs out.
I asked a DED actor one time in the summit.
Synthetic Cultist > I have another Question. Is it against CONCORD rules to connect a Drone Intelligence to ancient Takmahl technologies and then to a cyborg human Body ?
Arve Vesren > I'm not sure we have policies that cover something that specific.
Arve Vesren > I think it's safe to assume we won't have you dissassembled.
Another DED actor, an Inner Circle member, said :
"So long as you're operating within the law, I have no problem with it. Should you step out of line, you'll meet the DED the same as everyone else."
So, it would seem that Law Abiding synthetic people don't appear to be committing anything that's specifically against CONCORD laws.
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CCP won't ban you because of RP (well, there are exceptions, but...) CONCORD characters can't probably start to stalk you just because, either.
So, regardless of what Synthia actually is, I could see three responses (mix & match as suitable) to the claims:
(1) "Can we nick it?" Feign noninterest but plan to monitor and steal advanced technology, if an opportunity presents itself.
(2) "Wait, what? Uh, try to cover it up." Okay, someone broke some usual AI rules. Try to hide the fact.
(3) "That capsuleer has gone insane." NPC character/CONCORD does not think the existance of Synthia as described is possible, and therefore, the character is assumed to be at an advanced state of "capsuleer dementia".
Also, by no means Synthia is the first one. We've had rogue drones, runaway AIs etc. Usually there's been relatively little fuss.
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Ah yes, this is The Explanatory Leaflet I was looking for.
It is a Leaflet that Explains.
:)
I enjoy this toon quite a bit, keep up the good work!
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If you've read Templar One, CONCORD itself has synthetic people in the form of an elite ninja assassin (possibly more than one?) known as THANATOS. Of course, no one would ever trace THANATOS back to CONCORD, but it's clear the organization's higher-ups do not revile synthetic individuals.
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I love watching Synthia in The Summit :) She is one of my favorite characters.
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My approach to RP is fairly straightforward as well.
I ask questions, using something outlandish encountered in news outlets.
I believe this gives people opportunities to explore the background of different cultures, and creates opportunities for conversations and other rp to be created.
"Today I read a Thing that Said..." and people discuss things.
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"Today I read a Thing that Said..."
The start of some of humanity's greatest debates...
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From the Desk of Empress Synthia 1
I Extend warmest Greeting to the Empress Jamyl
From: Synthetic Cultist
Sent: 2013.07.03 09:00
To: Ohrud Omel
Hello Grand Inquisitor,
As a formal Representative of the Empress Jamyl, please convey my Warmest Greeting to her Majesty.
I recently became an Empress Myself, after the Wombat People submitted to the Rule of God, joining the existing Kingdom of Kaztropol, to form the Kaztropolitan Empire.
Thus, I, Queen Synthia 1 of Kaztropol, Empress of the Wombat People Territories, And other Parts Yet Un-Named, extend my Cordial Greeting to the Empress Jamyl, and express the Idea that we should Talk, in a bid to Re-Unite the Faiths, that the Word of God shall become Strengthened, and overcome the pitiful assaults of the rebellious heathens.
Yours,
Synthia.
Re: I Extend warmest Greeting to the Empress Jamyl
From: Ohrud Omel
Sent: 2013.07.10 16:39
To: Synthetic Cultist,
I am unsure under what delusions you suffer, but I can assure you that Empress Jamyl I would never deign to speak with a heretical Sani Sabik such as yourself. However, should you wish to have your insanity examined by proper authorities, I am quite willing to allow you to submit yourself to my Inquisitors.
From the Desk of Queen Synthia 1
I would like to Invite the Empress to a Tea Party
From: Synthetic Cultist
Sent: 2012.12.26 16:25
To: Ohrud Omel
Hello.
As Queen of Kaztropol, I would Like to invite her Majesty, Empress Jamyl to a Tea Party, where we could discuss Fashion, Theology, and other Matters relevant to being Monarchs.
Would this be Possible ?
Thank you for your Time
Signed,
Queen Synthia I of Kaztropol
Re: I would like to Invite the Empress to a Tea Party
From: Ohrud Omel
Sent: 2012.12.26 16:31
To: Synthetic Cultist,
Attention purveyor of heresy;
Your communications are now being monitored by the Ministry of Internal Order. Refrain from contacting any ranking members of the Amarr Empire unless you wish to face repercussions for your actions. This is your only warning.
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Clearly, a rebel Wombat operative is whispering in the ear of the Grand Inquisitor. They will stop at nothing to undermine the Rule of God.
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I'm surprised they took you seriously.
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I'm trying VERY hard not to bust out laughing at my desk.
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I'm surprised they took you seriously.
Why's that ?
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I'm surprised they took you seriously.
Why's that ?
Because for a lot of people, Synthia is a character that is extremely difficult to take seriously most of the time.
Even, in theory, for a Ministry official whose job is to be super serious business all the time.
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From the Desk of Empress Synthia 1:
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I wish to Convey Birthday Greetings to King Khanid
From: Synthetic Cultist
Sent: 2013.07.28 12:53
To: Arraz Nomarya
Hello
I am Informed that King Khanid will shortly have his 380th Birthday.
As a Queen myself, I wish to convey a Happy Birthday to the King and wish him Well for the Future.
Sincerely,
Synthia 1, Queen of Kaztropol
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Re: I wish to Convey Birthday Greetings to King Khanid
From: Arraz Nomarya
Sent: 2013.08.27 17:31
To: Synthetic Cultist,
His Royal Majesty King Khanid II spits on your heathen greetings and well wishes. May you burn in the fires of perdition, Sabik scum.
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From the Desk of Empress Synthia 1:
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I wish to Convey Birthday Greetings to King Khanid
From: Synthetic Cultist
Sent: 2013.07.28 12:53
To: Arraz Nomarya
Hello
I am Informed that King Khanid will shortly have his 380th Birthday.
As a Queen myself, I wish to convey a Happy Birthday to the King and wish him Well for the Future.
Sincerely,
Synthia 1, Queen of Kaztropol
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Re: I wish to Convey Birthday Greetings to King Khanid
From: Arraz Nomarya
Sent: 2013.08.27 17:31
To: Synthetic Cultist,
His Royal Majesty King Khanid II spits on your heathen greetings and well wishes. May you burn in the fires of perdition, Sabik scum.
Awww. How sweet.
Seriously though, I've often wondered. How does Synthia manage to come over as so nice when she's been educated by a self-obsessed philosophy like Sani Sabik? Unless she's sociopath nice and only putting it on to manipulate the marks.
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Awww. How sweet.
Seriously though, I've often wondered. How does Synthia manage to come over as so nice when she's been educated by a self-obsessed philosophy like Sani Sabik? Unless she's sociopath nice and only putting it on to manipulate the marks.
Good question.
Synthia pretty much has 2 emotions, other than neutral.
Objective completed/satisfaction - Yaay
Objective failed/frustration - Boo
She probably has no concept of being mean to people, or would see it as counterproductive. And there are things in the Scriptures about the Proper way for a Righteous Lady to Behave.
Being Nice to People fulfils Objectives. Yaay.
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It seems people are still unhappy about this character's mere existence, despite the various bits of PF used to justify and explain things.
Suggestions ?
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Flip them off. Fire pistols into the air while doing lines of Crash off of exotic dancers (M/F.)
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It seems people are still unhappy about this character's mere existence, despite the various bits of PF used to justify and explain things.
Suggestions ?
If they can't take a joke then they shouldn't ahve signed up (to EVE).
Personally I think Synthia is an interesting and amusing (if somewhat puzzling) take on the Sani Sabik. There must be room for her and more traditional alpha dominant types like Silas in the world?
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It seems people are still unhappy about this character's mere existence, despite the various bits of PF used to justify and explain things.
Suggestions ?
I'd like to offer some words of wisdom (http://youtu.be/e7z_ztMxBgk).
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Technology for artificial people exists already, I have just made a thread about it in the library forum.
So, I am at a loss to understand the objection that people have with Synthia's existence.
As far as I can tell, it's all explained and based on existing PF, so, what is the objection ?
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Technology for artificial people exists already, I have just made a thread about it in the library forum.
So, I am at a loss to understand the objection that people have with Synthia's existence.
As far as I can tell, it's all explained and based on existing PF, so, what is the objection ?
Most likely a variant on they didn't think of it first?
Also, some players can be very conservative about lore. It's just there are many, many factions of conservative, all of whom disagree. Sometimes violently.
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Synthia reminds me of Discworld's Death. Fairly observant about the surface facts of the world and human behavior, but doesn't have (and may not be capable of having) the experience necessary to make actual sense of it, so just follows things through to their literal-minded, "logical" conclusions.
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Synthia reminds me of Discworld's Death. Fairly observant about the surface facts of the world and human behavior, but doesn't have (and may not be capable of having) the experience necessary to make actual sense of it, so just follows things through to their literal-minded, "logical" conclusions.
"Synthia, that's... umm... not how it works..." is something that people have said on more than one occasion, heh.
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hmm could it be that she is not taken seriously because she is queen of wombats?
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Some people don't like to hear the word drone from anything that isn't made of metal and tentacles.
Heh. It's understandable. though a little narrow minded.
Keep droning on... you've managed to pull it off a little better than i did. :)
Yuni will be around again soon though :)
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I am curious what people's thoughts are on one of Synthia's mannerisms:
[20:28:49] Synthetic Cultist > Additional: Hello.
[20:40:53] Synthetic Cultist > Furthermore: Hello.
These are a typical thing that Synthia says, usually when I have just logged in and have read something in the Summit that Synthia would respond to, but she has not yet properly greeted the Summit, after all, it is Rude to not Introduce Yourself.
[21:11:17] Synthetic Cultist > Hello Summit People and people shaped Things. I, Synthia, greet you all. Hello.
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I am curious what people's thoughts are on one of Synthia's mannerisms:
[20:28:49] Synthetic Cultist > Additional: Hello.
[20:40:53] Synthetic Cultist > Furthermore: Hello.
These are a typical thing that Synthia says, usually when I have just logged in and have read something in the Summit that Synthia would respond to, but she has not yet properly greeted the Summit, after all, it is Rude to not Introduce Yourself.
[21:11:17] Synthetic Cultist > Hello Summit People and people shaped Things. I, Synthia, greet you all. Hello.
Mannerisms for me are a character by character thing. Some of my characters would be put off, others wouldn't notice. The only thing that drives me nuts OOCly is misspelling, bad punctuation, or horrid grammar that obviously isn't IC.
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To me that is acceptable, of course. It's part of personal RP, and the actual exersize of roleplaying and interactive storytelling. A character should not be "me, if I happened to be born in X place in the EVE cluster and grew up with a different history" - ie, they shouldn't be speaking with the player's voice saying things that are relative to their setting.
To compare, Arista has a lot of mannerisms I have to consciously remember to use beyond the stereotypical 'Amarrian proper' a lot of the Amarr bloc does, because she's a) from the Kingdom and b) should have habits / behaviors from her own planet. (if i cant 'get into character' with all of them, I simply don't RP, because for Reasons she must always be eerily consistent in her behavior.)
I mean as a simple example even on a single planet things are different dependent on local society; the noise that someone in the US makes that is a sound of agreement ("mm-hmm") is different than someone from the UK (a brief "mm.")
Ari does that crap:
/me hums in thought.
/me hums in agreement.
Of course the reader can't HEAR those, but I basically added that non verbal vocalisation and communication is common where she comes from, so she does a lot of it.
So for Synthia to have predetermined mannerism is not only normal, it makes logical sense that a programmed AI would be programmed to follow some form of "traditional human social protocol".
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Mannerisms are that little thing that can sometimes add a lot to a character. Some characters will profit immensely from them, while others will do less. For example I try to absolutely never use verbal contractions (like don't, doesn't, etc) with my character to that effect, to bolster formalism and make her speak like a book in her own weird way. Maybe too subtle for people to notice, I don't know, but I think it unconsciously helps.
Seri was good at that kind of things. It is also almost mandatory for a character like Synthia to have some as well I think, which is good....
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Synthia:
(http://i.imgur.com/l8L69BZ.jpg)
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Synthia:
http://i.imgur.com/l8L69BZ.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/l8L69BZ.jpg)
:lol:
Excellent!
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I just found this thread - wanted to say that I love your idea. Also, I didn't know you could evemail NPCs and actually get a response? I was certainly amused by the responses.
Are you still active in game Synth? I would like to talk to you and find out what you have discovered of the Takmahl and of the Faith.
edit: Oh - Also, I am very deliberate in how I portray Bay IC via Summit etc as she has a demeanour and mannerisms that are related to bog standard me, however still a concious disconnect from myself. It helps me decide how to develop her, especially with reactions from others.
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Synthia, due to her keen interest in ladies magazines, has become quite interested in fashion over the past few years.
When dressing up for a function, she'd prefer to dress something like this:
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa394/bloodnuns/Synthiadress1.png)
For some Religious Occasions, her outfit is... quite different...
due to her particular religious beliefs, and what is written in Scripture.