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Title: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 21 Sep 2012, 12:00
Heyas!

So, on the General Discussion on the eve forums, there's a thread there to discuss character portraits and rate the person above yours on a scale of 1/10

Well, we're cooler then that, so I thought it might be neat to have a bit more thorough of a character portrait analysis thread.

So look at the character portrait of the person above you, and state your likes, your dislikes, what you would change, and a final score out of 100.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Sid on 21 Sep 2012, 12:57
0/10 would not pod.

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^
The best.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 21 Sep 2012, 17:01
5/10

At first sight, it brought to mind Dragon Age (?!). I think tribal patterns are pretty horribly 90s in the way they are presented in Eve, and well, you could lump the piercings in the same category. That sounds a bit harsh and is really criticism more intended at the aesthetic chosen by Eve-O designers than to the avatar-maker.

I like the fact that the character has an actual expression, though. Adds a nice bit of character, even though I'm not sure what he's conveying. Apprehension? Disdain? Hmm.

The mix of mohawk, piercings and tattoos are stylistically a little too much of a hodge-podge. They do convey a sense of rebellion, even if the dude himself doesn't really look all that bad-ass.

That's my impressions!

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/810740887_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: ArtOfLight on 21 Sep 2012, 17:13
I don't know the character but since this is about the portrait:

I like it. The casual clothing, light make-up and glasses give her the look of a free-spirit with a slight edge to her. Perhaps she's fiercely independent but laid back. I give bonus points for her not being unrealistically endowed.

7/10
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 21 Sep 2012, 17:20
I've always really liked Mal's character design. It just seems to convey a lot of character. It all comes together and just conveys so very much personality. He's like a State version of Malcolm Reynolds.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel the tattoo

If I was gonna change anything, I'd be to see how he looks smiling
95/100
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gesakaarin on 21 Sep 2012, 18:06
Here's Veikitamo, a typical Caldari corporate ice queen:

(http://i.imgur.com/B9Oe2.jpg?1) (http://imgur.com/B9Oe2)

Nothing like a grey suit on grey background to express proper State portraiture.

Yes, she's staring off into the new destiny of the State or something.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Desiderya on 21 Sep 2012, 18:11
It portrays strength of will and straightforwardness
Grey on grey sounds familiar.
Although these lips, they're not standard issue!

(http://image.eveonline.com/Character/1120211974_512.jpg)
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Oh, and I also very much like Mal's portrait, especially considering that many male Civire look very alike, and Mal is able to break that mold.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gesakaarin on 21 Sep 2012, 19:39
Although these lips, they're not standard issue!

Veikitamo is a Deteis, a significant portion of her training and skillset is oral based.

Looking at Desiderya though, she does seem a bit iconoclastic, more willing to allow her individual tastes to show through. Also has a mischievous or sly/calculating air about her.

She very much has bedroom eyes too, must have been quite the hit at the Academy?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Desiderya on 21 Sep 2012, 19:48
Veikitamo is a Deteis, a significant portion of her training and skillset is oral based.

Shame be he who thinks evil of it.

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Looking at Desiderya though, she does seem a bit iconoclastic, more willing to allow her individual tastes to show through. Also has a mischievous or sly/calculating air about her.

She very much has bedroom eyes too, must have been quite the hit at the Academy?
The first thing was what I was aiming for.
About the second. No survivors or witnesses.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Graelyn on 22 Sep 2012, 01:23
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1151998939_512.jpg)

Very well, let us begin...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kybernetes Moros on 22 Sep 2012, 02:39
Graelyn's has the expression and lightning down fine, in my view: it's a nice slight move away from the common "I AM AMARRIAN. QUAKE BEFORE MY DISAPPROVAL." without coming across as totally hippy. I do notice a weird feature of the Carbon creator in it, though; where the face is slightly pockmarked, etc, the forehead, area below the temples, and scalp lacks that. Weird.

It's okay. Vaun's is literally the best thing ever. Anyone who disagrees is racist to hammerhead sharks.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Louella Dougans on 22 Sep 2012, 02:50
I do notice a weird feature of the Carbon creator in it, though; where the face is slightly pockmarked, etc, the forehead, area below the temples, and scalp lacks that. Weird.

Scalp Wax.

Also, I like Vaun. The lighting and hair colour create an odd effect with head shape, making it an interesting picture.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gesakaarin on 22 Sep 2012, 03:52
Graelyn: "I disapprove. Especially those Godless Heathens, Heretics and Infidels. My eyes are also lasers and will burn such scum to ash."

Vaun: "Yes, I'm as harmless and unassuming as I look. No, really, you can trust me. What's that I slipped in your drink you say? Come now, I would never do something so sly and underhanded..."
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 22 Sep 2012, 09:16
I don't know the character but since this is about the portrait:

I like it. The casual clothing, light make-up and glasses give her the look of a free-spirit with a slight edge to her. Perhaps she's fiercely independent but laid back. I give bonus points for her not being unrealistically endowed.

7/10

Haha, well that's awesome, you pretty much nailed it there!

I must say I wasn't entirely happy with how the Intaki turned out in the new chargen. Not that they were bad per se, but just recreating GoGo wasn't exactly easy and it resulted in a very changed look. For one, her trademark red hair was gone, because Intaki don't exactly get the correct shade as an option.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: NISYN Aelisha on 22 Sep 2012, 09:56
Vaun has one of those 'interesting faces' where you can't quite place why it is odd at first glace.  Then you realize the man is part hammerhead!

Well, let's give this a go then, first off with Aelisha Montenagre:

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/839828428_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 22 Sep 2012, 10:36
Aelish seems to be thinking I'm cute and that we should have coffee sometime... So I ask if her eye is malfunctioning   :P

5 points for the smile, 2 for good background and lighting  :) 7/10

Also, Stern'maro does not approve
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/90677521_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 22 Sep 2012, 12:09
Ehh...N'maro....I'm really just not a fan. Something about the dark skin, pale eyes, and facial structure just don't seem to go well together. Its not terrible, it just all seems very random. It doesn't pull together very well.

I would drop the tattoo and darken his eyes, or change the hairstyle with one that isn't pulled back as much.

45/100

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 22 Sep 2012, 12:28
I like N'maro, he looks original and unique. Maybe due to the fact he is maybe the only male vherokior I know but still.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rin Kaelestria on 22 Sep 2012, 12:39
In regards to the N'maro picture, imo, if he had more of a close up then a half body picture, a turn of the head some, the red version of that coat, and perhaps a bit different lighting, it could work for him. As it stands in that picture right now, it looks like he's in a bit of a latex suit ... :ugh:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 22 Sep 2012, 12:47
(http://i.imgur.com/N7DmI.jpg?1?7628)

I'm editing mine to add my favorite of my previous portraits, which, obviously, I don't have any more. But I got it like this, then changed it on a whim and could never get it back again. I was extremely pleased with the lighting on this one, with the bright light on the far side of her face, and the near side in shadow. Also ♥ The cheekbones :P

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h333/Kalaratiri/132970041-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 22 Sep 2012, 16:15
Saede Riordan - 85/100
Sid - 80/100

Face / Hair / Background look pretty good, but I'd lose the piercings. Something about the way they've included piercings in this game strikes me as very mid-1990's... With the faces so 'busy' with tattoos I don't think the piercings are adding much visually.

GoGo Yubari - Good posing, keeping it simple and it works 89/100

Gesakaarin - Looks good but I'd lose the ruby-red lipstick.  I feel the ice queen would perhaps go with something a bit more subtle with regards to coloring? 85/100

Desiderya - She looks mean ; ) Might be ok without the cheek art considering the eyeliner already adding a lot of darkness to the face, along with the hard shadows. Looks good though! 90/100

Graelyn - Classic 95/100 Might try some different eye-focus locations but looking good! Nice lighting

Kybernetes Moros - 89/100 I like that it is straightforward with no need for extraneous special add-ons. Very nice and 'real'

Aelisha Montenagre - Looks good but not feeling the face paint 80/100

Nmaro Makari - Good pose, but not digging the corn-rows and the eye coloring. 80/100

kalaratiri - Ace. 95/100.  Great pose, great coloring, good outift to match. Very nice!

And Silas below.  You might recall she went under a bit of a 'makeover' about a year back and changed quite a bit.... Something about wearing all white and being associated with so much bloodshed I kind of like.

(http://i.imgur.com/7WJpJ.jpg)






Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: hellgremlin on 22 Sep 2012, 18:07
Silas: first thought: Erzebet Bathory. The lady who bathed in virgin blood to seek immortality had a propensity for wearing white outfits for her dips, if I recall my history of murder. I'm shit with numbers, so I'll just say it's effective.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/873374907_1024.jpg)

*sizzle*
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gesakaarin on 22 Sep 2012, 23:24
Istvaan: I approve of any character that can pull off the bald aesthetic well and I think the low angle shot conveys the proper sense of power, authority and gravitas that every Caldari leader uses to impress others.

Lacks a proper Mephistoles style goatee though.

90/100
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kentt on 23 Sep 2012, 00:27
True... Istvaan is lacking that milk-stash.  Can't believe he was once the guy who randomly shot himself on Summit for fun.  He looks more mature.  70/100

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/976916653_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 23 Sep 2012, 00:35
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@Kennt ; The Concave cheeks and narrow eyes are rather interesting. If the lighting was changed you could make him rather frightening looking. Also he's totally a Necron.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 23 Sep 2012, 03:56
dat lips, are you making a contest with Muck Raker ?  :D

I like the eyes (color, blending with the tattoos...) and the overall shade.


Concerning Istvaan the overall feeling is very nice. With that light in the background too, looks like he is inviting us into something.


For mine I prefer the old one since I have yet to get it back correctly since ive changed the skintone from too dark to too pale... Obvious lack of middle ground in their skin complexion. :/

(http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/c/c9/Lyn_portrait_YC114.jpg)


edit : another mood on the current portrait

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: NISYN Aelisha on 23 Sep 2012, 04:50
Sorry for not adhering to the ratings system but I just don't really find I am any good at 'rating' other people, so I hope a more descriptive evaluation is acceptable. 

Lyn has a kind of peaceful air i can only really think of as a kind of Oracular Priestess/Bene Gesserit vibe - quiet and composed, but able to firmly put someone in their place should the need arise.  Background and skin tone work well and I assume you've used the 'warm'  lighting palette to bring out a healthy glow in her?  Eyes, hair colour, nose and mouth structure all convey Brutor traits which I have always felt should come through strongly - and if as I fee I am incorrectly recalling Lyn is of mixed heritage, she has enough 'soft' features that it comes through.

Over all I think it achieves a calm and composed, yet empowered look with evidence of mixed heritage whilst avoiding stereotypes of either. 

Speaking of stereotypes:

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/261886217_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 23 Sep 2012, 05:42
Ok... quick question before i wade in.

where do i get those there character portraits? need to gather my characters before i can put em up here :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 23 Sep 2012, 05:46
Go to your character's profile page on evegate, and click the portrait, a larger version will come up. Just copy the url of the image.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 23 Sep 2012, 05:47
I think you can even replace the "_512.jpg" last bit by "_1024.jpg" and you will get a 1024 px image instead.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laerise [PIE] on 23 Sep 2012, 06:10
Aelisha, I really like how well you're managin the shadows in a dark picture- the expression goes especially well with it. I'd give it a 10/10, you perfectly hit the stereotype, but for my taste the picture is a bit low on contrast.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/407056187_512.jpg)

"Disgusting heathens..."
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kybernetes Moros on 23 Sep 2012, 06:55
Istvaan's might ruin my pants if I look too long. The lighting's great, and the way the camera's positioned relative to him and the background is something I've not seen all too much of.

Kentt's, ergh, again, my personal taste get in the way. Not fond of the piercings, but that's just me. The facial structure's a unique one, but c.f. my comments about N'maro's eyes, and shame about the Vherokior slackjaw. :U

Yeliana inspires the greatest dread in me; I'm not sure how much of that is me combining the portrait with the RP, mind, so my comments aren't too valuable here.

Long-haired Lyn is quite a calm looking one -- which fits what I've seen of the character. It's a nice change from some of the LOL, BADASS portraits you see (more in general than in the RP sphere). Shorter hair Lyn, ack, I hate that hairstyle. ._. Again, taste.

Sol terrifies me in all kinds of ways. The angling, lighting and low contrast between clothing, hair and background makes it seem very intimidating; the piercings are an odd and slightly rebellious counterpoint that add a lot, IMO.

Laerise is an interesting attempt at the expression, but it looks slightly odd to me. The way the eyes are shadowed makes them seem different sizes, colours and heights, for me, and as I said on Graelyn's, "I AM AMARR. (Khanid. >_>) BEHOLD, DISAPPROVAL." doesn't do it for me. Well put together, but not my thing.

Here, lolvaun (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92312885_1024.jpg) or lolrenaud (http://image.eveonline.com/Character/91838249_1024.jpg), or even lolkyber (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1412804221_1024.jpg). I'm more here to share my infinite wisdom than to have anyone comment on my portraits. >_>
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Norrin Ellis on 23 Sep 2012, 07:14
Laerise's eyes remind me of a sort of malevolent death robot, but the rest is attractive enough that I'd pause to gawk long enough to be killed.  I think it's a fine version of the fire and brimstone hatred for all of us lesser races.  As for a rating, I would have a hard time calibrating such a scale, so I'll just leave it at "Good portrait.  Norrin approves."

And here's my own portrait for scathing reproach...
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People often comment about hating the shades.  In all honesty, I never remove them from the portrait because I really never could get the eyes right.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 23 Sep 2012, 08:05
Allrighty then.

Yuni
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Rok
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Dilaro
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as for ratings... i'm terrible at doing them.. will spend a little more time looking at people's portraits over the next day or so before i make any comments.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jev North on 23 Sep 2012, 08:44
I like Laerise's; I'm just vaguely annoyed at what's happening with the shadows in her left eye socket and environs. Probably because ever since Velarra clued me in about the incredibly poor default lighting and shadow choices available to us, I've been noticing unwanted ones on each and every one of my portrait attempts..

J:

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 23 Sep 2012, 10:17
Allrighty then.

Yuni
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Yuni is and always has been awesome :) The angle of the head with the blank eyes makes it hard to tell if she is actually looking at you are not, but if she is, she's definitely looking down :P

Only possible gripe is the patch of very dark shadow directly under her chin is a little jarring. 85/100
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laerise [PIE] on 23 Sep 2012, 10:33
Yuni: I like it, the posture and lighting is good. Blind eyes are a matter of taste (personally I don't like them) - the only thing apart from that is that she's slightly off center to the right. If you'd put her off center to the left the whole dynamic would work better. (9/10)

Rok: A bit bland for my taste, not really as good as the other two of yours. (5/10)

Dilaro: Good job, its sad that the dreadlocks don't look lifelike (shame on you ccp), especially like the slightly stoned/inspired expression. (8/10)

Jev North: Don't really have much to add here, it's a very nice and solid picture. The blurriness is EVE's fault, not yours - if you can somehow get rid of it that'd make it even better. (10/10)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gottii on 23 Sep 2012, 23:33
Heres Gottii.  Hampered in the expression department by the fact that Brutor IC dont seem to be the most overly expressive dudes in the world.  It can be hard trying to make a reserved, stoic expression that looks human.


(http://i986.photobucket.com/albums/ae346/tmac832/1551847075_zps220b47d2.jpg)

Some quick points. 

Ghost Hunter -- Yeliana is terrifying.  The doll like beauty and the glint in her eye that says "I could rip your heart out ala Temple of Doom style and not think twice about it" combine to great a very imposing image. 

Kyber -- Your avatar will always have an uncombed toupe and an unshaven face to me.  Kyber's hair is likely still one of the most well-known characters in EVE. 

Istvaan.  -- I love this portrait.  The gaze, the weight in the face that hints at a lifestyle of debauchery, yet the controlled stance of the body, all combine to create something really great.

Lyn  -- Love the long haired Lyn. Looks exotic yet human and familiar at the same time.

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 23 Sep 2012, 23:52
Just going to comment those I can scroll back to see while replying.

I like Kentt's picture best of the ones posted so far. The eyes in particular are awesome, gives him a decidedly predatory look. 10/10 on that one, splendid job.

Ghost: Big, vacant eyes, somewhat doll-like in the right, creepy way. Sansharawr. Maybe Yeliana looks a little too life-less, though. I don't know. 8/10

I like short-haired Lyn better than long-haired Lyn, actually. I love that calm, critical expression with the high eyebrow - only wish the hair didn't get in the way of her eyes the way it does. 8/10

Aelisha: I love the character image itself - she looks world-weary and cynical in just the right way. I'm guessing the way her hair and coat blends into the dark background is deliberate, but I'd personally prefer to see the whole outline of her. 9/10

Laerise: She looks mean, and she should. I like the frown, the way it touches the bridge of her nose in particular. I'd personally have liked it better if her entire head was in the picture, though. Also, while I certainly see the rationale for using the background you have, the faction insignia backgrounds get bland quickly, and I don't think it contrasts with her face as well as some other (preferably somewhat darker) background could have done. As it is, the prominent background and the off-to-the-side position of the character diverts some attention away from Lae's face, which is a shame. Still far from a bad pic, though, 7/10.

Norrin: I like it. The character comes off as laidback and casual, simple but neat in style, and the background works well. I'm not able to agree with myself whether the shades add to the casual style in a nice way or if they make him come off as a little too distant, though. 8/10.

Yuni, Rok, Dilaro - I largely agree with Laerise's assessment of all three of them. In Dilaro's case, I'm not a fan of excessive buckles in odd places. 9/10, 5/10 and 7/10, respectively.

Jev: Doesn't really do it for me, sadly. Too much shadow, too little face, and what face there is is turned away. There's a hint of gritty cyberpunk vibe there that's intriguing, but I think you'd retain that even with better lighting. 5/10 as it stands now.

Gottii: For a side view, it actually works really well. I like the background, the lighting and the facial features I can see, though I prefer pics where the characters face the camera. Still, it looks good in this case, 8/10.

My turn, I guess:

Katla:
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Ruby:
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ken on 24 Sep 2012, 00:03
Kenmain (Hoshisuuvi) for your consideration...

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Desiderya on 24 Sep 2012, 01:20
Istvaan - very nice portrait. Lacks the milkstache, but you can't have everything.
Gotti - Kind of like that portrait. The contrast with the background is very nice.
Graelyn - The original. Only thing I'd criticise would be the cut off top of the portrait.
Silas - I get the theme, but this lipstick? Kinda reminds me of this (http://pbfcomics.com/169/). :D Looks a bit like a girly color, and as such, I'd defend Ice Queen Veiki-red as the lady's choice.
Laerise - Angry, so angry.
Ael/Sol - seconded, good hand for shadows.

Fun fact: Try to imagine Des-Veiki-Hoshi's portrait side by side, in this order. They could even be in the same goddamn room. That could be the cover of a tremendous buddy exec film.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ken on 24 Sep 2012, 13:00
I don't think any of the face tats are a good choice because of how limited the selection is, especially for the Minmatar where this is supposed to be a very important and personal thing.  Same goes for the piercing selections, but I also don't like the face piercings because I think they're a cheap way to try and make the character look tough or roguish and just come off as hipstery tripe.

As good as the portraits can look, the chargen still really channelizes us to create archetypal images.  It's a challenge to try and make a character that doesn't immediately give away his or her race and bloodline or just get lost in a mish-mash of random accessories pulled from a very shallow pool of options.

What stood out to me of the portraits posted above--

Saede: The expression is top notch.  I just don't like the face tats for the reasons explained above.

Yubari: The portrait effectively conveys a certain demeanor and attitude, which is definitely hard to do even with the modern chargen.

Veikitamo: Stop copying Hoshi.  She had that look first. :P  Of course, military officers and corporate mavens look a lot alike in the State I suppose. ;)  The propaganda pose is nice, but might work better on one of the space backgrounds.

Des: Bedroom eyes.  That's the phrase I have been looking for.  There was always something about the eye color choice that made me wonder what was going on there.  And, well, face tat mehness.

Graelyn: This is archetypal Amarrian done to perfection.  Not cartoonishly :twirly-moustache: but still very superior and judgemental.

Aelisha: The implant and facepaint makes it look like there's been some interesting work done on that side of her face, so there's a half-woman/half-machine mystique going on that I like.

Kala: I'm not a big fan of the profile shot.  Black makeup doesn't work for me on a freckled redhead.

Silas: Lighting could be brighter.  The look makes me think "cartoon villain".

Istvaan: You are the prototype of conspiratorial guile.

Kentt: Position of the head in the frame and the slant of the shoulders makes it look like the character is meant to be short in stature.  Sunken cheeks suggest he's skinny/ripped as fuck.

Ghost: The green kiss of death.

Lyn: Neck is really skinny, but this is actually one of those portraits where the race and bloodline are not immediately apparent to me.  So definitely props for that.

Sol: Vicious.  This is a dark portrait that works for me.  Deep shadows and extremely dark costume and background scream "I want you to know I'm dangerous".  Can't actually tell that there's an eye implant there, however, so could easily drop it.  Meh about the piercings.

Laerise: Sorry, but that doesn't look angry or judgemental to me.  It looks like she's having a hard time taking a shit.

Norris: Vanilla.  Okay, maybe French Vanilla.

Yuni: I don't know the character from jack, so I can't tell if the double blind eye thing fits.

Rok: Is he sitting down?

Dilaro: Alright.  Cool dreads.  Lighting doesn't work though because the dreads on the right should be in shadow but are being illuminated as if his head wasn't there at all.  Would look at another hairstyle or lighting option.

Jev: Agree that the shadows are hiding too much of her.  The angle, eye focus, and slight smirk suggest some personality traits that you want to convey, but they are kind of lost in all the black.

Gottii: Sweet portrait of your dreads.  This is one profile shot that I guess kinda works for me.  The visible eye is focused right and the shape of the face is conducive to being viewed from this angle.  Keep the beard.

Katla: Not sure if dude or just really ugly bald lady with a miffed librarian expression on her face.

Ruby: What this is I don't even...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saikoyu on 24 Sep 2012, 13:35
Well, I'm not going to pretend that I know anything about art or anything, but I think all of these look pretty good.  Graelyn and Gottii kinda stood out for me, just don't ask me why. 

But I'm a joiner, so here's mine.

Saikoyu (I still miss her hair thingies)
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A'kua (I actually like this version more than the old one)
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Chantal D'len (I miss her green hair)
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Sako Yatori
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And the lone male...

Ha'lak Hanomaa
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I think my characters all when to the DMV of pod pilots for their pictures.  Except Chantal.  Anyway, do your worst. 
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gottii on 24 Sep 2012, 13:49
IAs good as the portraits can look, the chargen still really channelizes us to create archetypal images.  It's a challenge to try and make a character that doesn't immediately give away his or her race and bloodline or just get lost in a mish-mash of random accessories pulled from a very shallow pool of options.


While I agree with this, I actively tried to make Gottii as archetypically "Brutor" as I could while giving him something of a unique look as possible.  Gallente want to look like individuals.  Tribal or communal based characters would want to look like everyone else. 
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 24 Sep 2012, 15:10
I'm linking mine one more time cause no one's done it yet, except for Sid ( ♥ you too Sid )

Saede:
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Fraxi:
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saikoyu on 24 Sep 2012, 15:41
Well, okay.  Just bear in mind, I don't reallly know art or anything.

Saede, I'd say looks pretty good.  Witht he lighting and all, it gives her a very serious look, thought he eyes look a bit too bored to really go all the way with that.  Maybe more of a, "please, you think you have seen things I wouldn't believe?  Attack ships on fire don't even come close."

Fraxi, well, if your were going for who let the kid in here, you nailed it.  Really looks like some kid trying to look bad ass with the haircut and really not ready to play with the big boys.  Still looks good though, that just what I get from it. 


Again, YMMV and all that. 
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 24 Sep 2012, 15:45
Thats actually pretty much exactly the looks I was going for Saik :P
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vieve on 24 Sep 2012, 16:24
Fun fact: Try to imagine Des-Veiki-Hoshi's portrait side by side, in this order. They could even be in the same goddamn room. That could be the cover of a tremendous buddy exec film.


That is mildly terrifying.   Executioner, Schemer,  Dreamer (sorry, Ken, but Hoshi's portrait looks like she's distracted :) ).



Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vieve on 24 Sep 2012, 16:26
Oh, hey, I hadn't seen Fraxi's portrait before.  She's got an interesting look to her, Saede, though something about her screams (to me, and I admit my brain works oddly)  "I'm a vegan who only wears leather taken from the corpses I kill."
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vieve on 24 Sep 2012, 16:34
 Stupid stupid posting errors.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 24 Sep 2012, 16:38
I like the pic of Hoshisuuvi. She looks animated and aggressive in a nice way, and the freckles are a nice touch. The fact that it's close-up also prevents the partisan background from becoming the eyesore it often can be.

Saikoyu: Most of the characters have smiles that don't seem to touch their eyes at all. It looks forced, and more than a little creepy. If that's what you were aiming for, that's fine, of course. Saikoyu's heavy make-up around the eyes makes her look creepier still. Ha'lak's shades cancel out whichever facial expression me might be wearing under them, and makes him look flippant and bemusedly condescending. A'kua's portrait is the one I like best, although the blue eyes look a bit out of place.

I love Saede's eyes. The entire rest of the picture is just there to provide the proper context and background for that thousand-mile stare. I actually don't mind that so much of her blend in with the background, because that only serves to highlight those eyes further. They look disturbingly dispassionate in much the same way I tried to make Katla's eyes look (successfully so, I still think), but with more jadedness and less icy hostility.

I like Fraxi, too - another profile view that works, I'd say. I don't get the "trying-to-play-with-the-big-boys" vibe, though, more a "social-misfit-doing-her-own-thing" feel. Bonus points for near-albino with freckles.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ken on 24 Sep 2012, 16:39
sorry, Ken, but Hoshi's portrait looks like she's distracted :)

Huh? What?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saikoyu on 24 Sep 2012, 17:35

Saikoyu: Most of the characters have smiles that don't seem to touch their eyes at all. It looks forced, and more than a little creepy. If that's what you were aiming for, that's fine, of course. Saikoyu's heavy make-up around the eyes makes her look creepier still. Ha'lak's shades cancel out whichever facial expression me might be wearing under them, and makes him look flippant and bemusedly condescending. A'kua's portrait is the one I like best, although the blue eyes look a bit out of place.

Yeah, not what I was hoping for with the smiles and general creepy-ness.  Ha'lak, yeah that's about what I was shooting for.  Did anyone ever do a character creater for dummies who can't draw I wonder?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vieve on 24 Sep 2012, 18:08
sorry, Ken, but Hoshi's portrait looks like she's distracted :)

Huh? What?


Exactly.


But while I'm throwing stones, here are some glass houses.


Celeste:


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Vieve:

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Maris:

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 25 Sep 2012, 04:14
Lyn: Neck is really skinny

This is mostly due to the absence of jacket/coat. Usually I take them but I haven't find any that I like. :/

You might have noticed that without jackets covering half of it, the necks of the female models are stupidly long, like almost twice a "normal" size. They look like giraffe women... Here I minimized it tremendously with the pose itself, but otherwise it is just meh T_T

That's to me a big anatomy mistake  :psyccp:

Unless they wanted them to look like the gallente giraffe on the first racial illustrations with huge neck and shoulders stretched in the back.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: John Revenent on 25 Sep 2012, 05:06
A few pics of John over the past year or so. *Prepares for usual Heth Jr comments*

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/hinkelmann/836575670_256-1.jpg)

(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t126/hinkelmann/836575670_512.jpg)

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/836575670_512.jpg)

My Current portrait is the third one.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Valdezi on 25 Sep 2012, 06:10
The Prince of Cats

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And, Mammal.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 25 Sep 2012, 15:44
I've started to make a list that runs from my favorite portraits to my least favorite, since given a fixed score isn't my thing. Some portraits work for me, while others don't. I've tried to explain with each as clearly as possible why, or why not, and sometimes what could be improved in my opinion. If I'm being overly and brutally honest, please say so.

1. Graelyn
Excellently picked facial expression. It is one of those rare expression that conveys a sense of duality without feeling unnatural. Both stern and compassionate. Both understanding and judging. Nice balanced trio of steely grey with the outfit, eyes and skullcap. Position of the shot with the head looking slightly down and away provides an feeling of being judged and being beneath the person. By using a slight brown as a warm contrast color in the background adds a bit of warmth to the portrait. Excellent lighting! It brings out the frowns and pockmarks giving automatic bonus points for 'character', as well as adding 'shine' to one of the eyes, making the portrait feel more natural. Could go on and on about other things that make it good (placement of portrait in box), but will stop here, I think its obvious for most.

2. Istvaan
Another example of good positioning of portrait within the box. Left eye has all the focus, it looks at the camera, and is almost at one thirds of the width, which is excellent. Well chosen background, with the blue start competing nicely with they eyes, making you go flick your eye back and forth between the two focal points, giving the portrait a sense of unease. The downturn of head and stern disapproving expression combined with the excellent lighting, which hides half of the face in shadow enhances the feeling of creepiness and unease. If you cut off the bottom 20-30% or so you see the composition gets even better. Grey no-nonsense clothes complement the no nonsense expression. The face is not particularly interesting, but because the other elements are well-chosen it works in its entirety.

3. Ghost Hunter
Very good use of colors. Enough contrast with the bright skin and dark hair, a nice range of matching greens represented, with both lip and eye color reappearing in the well chosen background. Also good choice in combination of tattoo and zipper, they keep each other in balance. Lighting works well to soften the face. Only issue with it that I have is that the expression doesn't look natural. Lips, eye, tilt of head, the fact that you are looking straight at the camera but seem to gaze just beyond it.

4. Saede Riordan
Good work with the lighting, well chosen background enhances the focus on the face, colors are nicely centered around one theme, eyes are excellent: their color contrasts nicely with the rest of the portrait, giving good intensity. Expression looks natural, posture, lips and gaze match.

5. Kalaratiri
I like the second portrait a lot more than the first. En profile portraits can certainly work, but the first one is too perfect, and thereby getting a bit dull, the second, by being slightly off center, works. In the second portrait the blue tattoos nicely contrast with the red hair, while the background also add lines that draws the viewer to the face and eyes. Much better use of the rule of thirds especially due to the choice of background. For the first portrait the background is too plain, and the eyes are too high on to do that. Even small details like the shoulders angled backwards on the second portrait help to create space and draw your vision to the right places.

6. Veikitamo
Nicely picked 'cool' grey color theme. Lighting, background, hairstyle, pose and gaze all suggest business and reason over emotion. Head upwards slightly and looking into the distance to suggest possibilities and positive outlook. Good contract provided by overdone lipstick, which enhances the other elements.

7. Vaun
Very in your face approach. Very plain face, very plain background that neither enhances nor detracts from the image. However, this image isn't as drab as one would imagine because of the combination of slight cross-eyes which don't match (but nearly so) the facial expression of the mouth. That give Vaun the edge that would still make you take notice even though the rest seems rather plain at first.

8. Lyn Farel
Another portrait that I classify in the average range. Nothing particularly bad, nothing particularly good. Could use some improvement in almost all categories, lighting, color choices, background, portrait position, expression, direction of gaze. Isn't conveying any particular strong emotion, either good or bad.

9. Norin Ellis
Another one in the not good, not bad range. I personally don't like the large sunglasses, because they hide a lot of expression. This portrait works much better small than it does enlarged. Hair, posture, facial expression, all radiate a sense of normality and averageness. Like you're one of the extra's that get's killed on the first away mission.

10. Silas Vitalia
Not bad, not good. Placement of portrait should be either more to the left, or more to the right, now its just not right. Background is a bit too boring, it doesn't help enhance the rest of the portrait. Pose, hair and outfit are well chosen, but giving her just white eyes detracts from the gazing into upwards and into the distance feeling. Also cut-off at the breasts is just a little odd. Lipstick doesn't match, not enough contrast and not enough in common with any other color theme. Has potential but needs a little bit more work.

11. Kent
Portrait is well placed, but lighting seems odd and just too much bluish light and bluish theme. Needs a bit of contrast to stand out. Emanciated look is well done, but doesn't get enough support from other elements. Gaze is too little of anything. Not looking straight at the camera, but not looking clearly away from it too. It is better to make a clear choice, or you look sort of noncommital and insecure, which can be fine if that is your intention, but the expression doesn't matches it. The way the dark background curls around the head sort of integrates the two, while a good background should make you stand out, and not flow into each other.

12. Desiderya
Gaze is odd, doesn't look natural, especially in combination with the facial expression and pose. The emotional message is unclear and muddy. If she would real I would classify the character as having some mental disorder. Background and outfit color are too close to provide good contract, but just too far off to provide good coherence. Neck shadow is oddly disturbing. Slight tattoos add nothing but make the portrait even muddier.

13. Laerise
Face is slightly too far to the left of the portrait, cut off at an unnatural position. Expression is unnatural. This doesn't look like disgust, or anger, but an odd mix of both. However, bonus points for the expression, odd as it is, at least being memorable . Amarr background is chosen for obvious reasons, but doesn't do anything for the portrait. Lighting too far from above, I think other angles would fit her better. Lip color looks good, the clothes are barely visible and high forehead in combination with high hair maybe a bit too dominant. Idea has potentional but work on the expression first I think and take it from there.

14. GoGo Yubari
Lighting oddly placed, focus of lightning is between two standard focal points (eyes and breasts) which is weird, no face visible due to unnatural pose and sunglasses, stereotypical combination of slender female with oversized breasts with pose suggesting that breasts should be the focal point of the portrait. Little attention to color, background not bad, but also not good.

15. Nmaro Makari
This portrait seems designed to show off the nice costume. And that it does. All too well. The squinty eyes are way too strongly accentuated by the horizontal lines above and below the eyes and the horizontal bands of hair, making the face very angular and expressionless and non-noticable. Posture and mouth suggest someone trying to look tough, but the job with they eyes (no intense gaze) offsets that idea. Most of the character seems to be in the clothes.

16. Aelisha Montenagre
That left eye looks absolutely horrible. With the tattoo there to draw even more attention to it, and the shadowy arm in background drawing your eye even more to it, it just looks unnatural and weird. The other eye looks weird milky just because of the contracts. Outfit, hair etc. is just drab dark gray and black, lighting does little to liven it up. Pose uninteresting, pinched mouth with slight smile that doesn't match rest of face is off-putting.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Safai on 25 Sep 2012, 17:11
Lots of names and portraits in here so I'm boiling it down to letter grades and some comments, in order of appearance.

Saede - B+
Sid - B (Would benefit from zooming in)
GoGo - A (Unique!)
Veikitamo - B+
Desiderya - B+
Graelyn - A (Not cutting off his head would be an improvement)
Vaun - A (Is good its plainness! Same comment as the above, though)
Kyber - A+
Aelisha - B+ (Could use a little more light)
N'maro - C+ (Is too small/muddy in thumbnail version)
Kalaratiri - B
Silas - A (Like the greytones and pose/expression)
Istvaan - A (Nice contrast!)
Kentt - C
Yeliana - A+
Ghost - A (Ominous shadows!)
Lyn - A (Nice work making her not look Brutor)
Laerise - A+ (Contrast is fine, love the expression! Could be centered)
Norrin - B
Yuni - B+
Jev - B
Gotti - B
Katla - A
Ruby - C+ (Those lips freak me out a little)
Hoshisuuvi - A (It's a good one! If only her head wasn't chopped off ...)
Saikoyu - A
Vieve - B+ (Cute, with eyes like pools of silver)
John - A
Valdezi - A
Mammal - B (Would benefit from being centered, imho)
Merdaneth - B


And submitting myself, with my altguy spoilered for fun. :)

(http://i.imgur.com/QscZ0.jpg)
Spoiler: Safai's Alt (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 25 Sep 2012, 17:26
14. GoGo Yubari
Lighting oddly placed, focus of lightning is between two standard focal points (eyes and breasts) which is weird, no face visible due to unnatural pose and sunglasses, stereotypical combination of slender female with oversized breasts with pose suggesting that breasts should be the focal point of the portrait. Little attention to color, background not bad, but also not good.

Just saying that if I wanted to put the breasts as the focal point, I'd say I was doing it pretty wrong. Interestingly superficial analysis, though. I wonder if it comes down to my choices or the eye of the beholder.

I certainly wanted to dance on the edge of superficiality by giving her a "pose", as one would if photographed for publicity images, while at the same time not being entirely comfortable with it. The rather obvious (as I see it) symbology is commonly  missed, though. Possibly due to the breasts. They have that effect on men.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 25 Sep 2012, 17:36
I love the portrait of Safai. It looks like it belongs on a wall in some Victorian-style mansion.

I think it would look even better without the cybernetics, though. Possibly without the jewelry too, but I'm not entirely sure there.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 25 Sep 2012, 18:01
I love the portrait of Safai. It looks like it belongs on a wall in some Victorian-style mansion.

I think it would look even better without the cybernetics, though. Possibly without the jewelry too, but I'm not entirely sure there.

No, I agree, the jewelry and monocle look very tacked on. Almost like they were put there with stickers after the picture was taken. Its otherwise quite good.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shaalira on 25 Sep 2012, 18:44
Shaalira's portrait has changed a lot over time.  Aside from the fact that I dislike letting a month pass without a new hairstyle, the summer update has allowed her to return to her pre-Carbon complexion.  This is her current style.

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Piri Papotte is an article-publishing alt, and received a lot less attention from me on her creation.  I accidentally clicked the major freckles option and decided to just keep it.  As a happy and confident professional, she doesn't care to have them removed.

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I'll write a reaction post when I can.  Maybe when I'm waiting out another GCC counter.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gottii on 25 Sep 2012, 18:57
Shaalira's portrait is my personal fav.  Amazingly well done :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Safai on 25 Sep 2012, 19:26
I love the portrait of Safai. It looks like it belongs on a wall in some Victorian-style mansion.

I think it would look even better without the cybernetics, though. Possibly without the jewelry too, but I'm not entirely sure there.

No, I agree, the jewelry and monocle look very tacked on. Almost like they were put there with stickers after the picture was taken. Its otherwise quite good.

I see where you guys coming from. The chin one in particular looks flat. She doesn't look exotic enough if I remove them entirely, though, so I'll play around with them. It's too bad there aren't any options for different bindis.

Still, the monocle stays. :twisted:

And yeah I like Shaalira's too. That's a tattoo option you don't see often enough, and the green ink on dark skin looks good.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shaalira on 25 Sep 2012, 21:22
Saede:  I like the eye color.  The rest of the portrait is dark or done in cool colors, so the presence of warm yellow makes the eyes that much more vivid.  I'm partial to Maori-style tattoos.  The lips look a bit puckered, giving her an air of distaste.

Sid:  The best part of this portrait is how the lip peircings fit the flow of the facial tattoo.  The hairstyle gives a distinctly rebellious look.  The clothing is drab, but it suits; it allows the focus to remain on the striking features of the face.  The circle grill background is a bit distracting, though.

GoGo Yubari:  The blush is overdone, and doesn't flatter a narrow and angular face.  Zooming out to a body shot makes the eagle on the shirt the central focus of the picture, which is possibly your intent?  I'm more likely to remember the character's shirt than what she looks like.

Veikitamo:  It might be an effect of the lighting, but the eyes look very slightly cross-eyed.  The deep shadow along the inner eye socket might be the culprit.  Otherwise, the pose and the distant focus of the gaze fits the stated characterization.  The colorfulness of the lips is a good contrast to a portrait that's mostly grey-scale.

Desiderya:  This character has a narrow, sharp face and the hairstyle does a good job of emphasizing this.  White hair's a bit of a risk, but fortunately the face and lips lacks strong color and so it fits.  Might consider a more pallid complexion.  The long zoom makes it hard to make out the character on smaller views.

Graelyn:  The immediate reaction from this picture is that of an experienced, sharp and cynical character.  Good work on the eyes, as it makes the character seem observant, rather than glaring at a singular point (as many Amarr males do).  Good use of the age slider, which isn't used often.

Vaun:  Looks like an Easter Islander statue dug itself out of the ground and found itself a space ship.  Good take on an 'average-looking' person with a single, unnerving feature.  Subdued symmetrical background seems to fit.

Aelisha:  The mechanical eye matches the eye color of the organic eye well, providing a symmetry despite the difference.  It feels like more can be done with the lighting, zoom, angle, and background to focus the attention on a rather striking face.  White tattoo clashes with dark hair and clothing, not necessarily in a good way.

Nmaro:  The zoom-out level detracts quite a bit from the portrait, especially given how miniature the face can be on the smaller views.  I think more of an angle would fit this character better, especially with the ponytail/knot in the back of the head.  I'd look into the color balance of the lips, tattoo and eyes, as they don't fit well together..

Kala:  Not many profile portraits out there, which gives her quite a bit of uniqueness.  Freckled redhead, as common an archetype as it is, works rather well.  I like blue or green in combination with that complexion rather than black.  As such, I'm more partial to the second portrait with the blue tattoo.  I'm not sure black lipstick is a good choice here.

Silas:  A color-drained white hair + white outfit + white eyes approach is a good one.  But I think you undermine that with the pink make-up / lipstick.  Having the character look up can make her seem more aloof or proud.  But in this case, it just looks like she's looking up at the ceiling (especially since the absence of pupils makes the object of her focus unclear).  I'd work on the angle of the face some more, and perhaps zoom in a bit.

Istvaan:  The dramatic lighting and the half-shadowed face works well, particularly for a character with a shady air to him.  I think the bright blue event horizon background detracts from this approach, though, as much as it provides a sharp relief to the face.  Something darker, perhaps.

Kentt:  This character has a good, unique look.  The lighting choice fits well with the tatoo color.  I'm not sure what kind of outfit you have, but the chainmail texture gives it a retro, somewhat primitive look - in a good wa.  Scruffy hair, scruffy chin, and earring all complement each other.

Ghost:  Looks stiff and robotic, which is probably the intent.  The unity of the green color scheme works well, and the tattoos add to the artificial/mechanical quality of the character.  The shoulders should be more square than sloped, but not sure what you can do there aside from an outfit change.

Lynn:  I think the blush and makeup should be toned down or changed to the brown hue.  The natural skin tone and hair combination is a good one, and the plain top adds to the portrait's overall simplicity.  The lower half of the face seems a little too small, with the mouth utterly dwarfed by the nose.  It could be a bad angle.

Laerise:  Normally, I want the face to be the primary focus of the portrait.  But in context of the Amarr logo and the 'disgusting heathen' squint, the camera angle isn't bad.  I like the level of expressiveness, which you don't see much elsewhere.  Consider one of the 'royal' haircuts with the bound up braids.

Norrin:  Looks distant and smug, particularly with the shades.  That impression has something to do with the lips, which seem tight and pursed.  The zoom-out makes it fairly difficult to make out more about the face, especially on smaller views.  As is, it looks like a generic man in shades.

Yuni:  Color choices work well.  The lip piercings and the mime eyeshadow make for good symmetry.  The blush is just right for this character.

Rok:  The earthy tones match this character's name.  With the full-down dreads and the wide chin, I think the angle could better selected.  This is a character that should take up most of the screen.

Dilaro:  This character has some really prominent cheekbones, which distract me from the rest of the face.  The scar is a good fit with the white hair and aged features.  I can't see much else past the cheekbones, though.

Jev North:  Simplicity works well for this portrait.  It's not very busy, allowing for some good chiascurro between the light complexion and hair, and the deep shadows and dark colors of the outfit.  The drawn back camera and the character's vague 'off-to-the-side' perspective, however, blunts the sharpness of the portrait.

Gotti:  This is a great profile portrait.  Even though the head leans forward, the eyes stare straight ahead, giving the charactger a very focused look.  Beard, dark dreads, and tattoo give him a lot of character, and the plain shirt keeps the focus on the face.


My counter's up, so I'll continue later.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 26 Sep 2012, 00:43
Just saying that if I wanted to put the breasts as the focal point, I'd say I was doing it pretty wrong. Interestingly superficial analysis, though. I wonder if it comes down to my choices or the eye of the beholder.

Probably a bit of both. I prefer faces to look at in portraits, and I favor eyes especially, your portrait tries to hide the face and especially the eyes. Position and light make your neck is the visual focal point, but there is nothing to see there as it were. Both chest and face are competing for attention after the neck area. Chest area because of breasts that are wider than the body, which accentuate them and a very present symbol on the shirt.

I certainly wanted to dance on the edge of superficiality by giving her a "pose", as one would if photographed for publicity images, while at the same time not being entirely comfortable with it. The rather obvious (as I see it) symbology is commonly  missed, though. Possibly due to the breasts. They have that effect on men.

Yes, I can imagine. Because the creator knows their character far better, usually one's own perception and associations have a lot more depth to it than one who just takes a superficial look at the portrait.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 26 Sep 2012, 04:19
My alt Jake that I have not played a lot ICly.

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My other alt that I used as a CEO for many things...

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Lynn:  I think the blush and makeup should be toned down or changed to the brown hue.  The natural skin tone and hair combination is a good one, and the plain top adds to the portrait's overall simplicity.  The lower half of the face seems a little too small, with the mouth utterly dwarfed by the nose.  It could be a bad angle.

Weird, normally the only makeup she has is eye lineup (it's a lot better with it). On the first pic maybe some remnant of a blush coming back from my first post incarna attempts, but im not sure... I don't remember well tbh since I can't check anymore. On the second one though, I am sure to have removed any remaining blush, so just eye lineup here. I am still not happy with the skin complexion though, so I have the same feeling.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 26 Sep 2012, 06:31
I prefer faces to look at in portraits, and I favor eyes especially, your portrait tries to hide the face and especially the eyes.

I do usually prefer faces (and eyes) as well, but since the new chargen didn't allow me to create a face I was happy with or could identify with the character (change is haaaard), I figured I'd do something totally different. Ending up doing that, I figured I'd make a point with the hiding of the face, too.

I love the portrait of Safai. It looks like it belongs on a wall in some Victorian-style mansion.

I think it would look even better without the cybernetics, though. Possibly without the jewelry too, but I'm not entirely sure there.

No, I agree, the jewelry and monocle look very tacked on. Almost like they were put there with stickers after the picture was taken. Its otherwise quite good.

I see where you guys coming from. The chin one in particular looks flat. She doesn't look exotic enough if I remove them entirely, though, so I'll play around with them. It's too bad there aren't any options for different bindis.

Still, the monocle stays. :twisted:

I like Safai's portrait very much as well! It has the aura of some bad ass cybernetic granny (and I mean that in a good way), while still being attractive as well. I too don't like the plethora of jewelry, but - and I can't believe I'm saying this - I like the monocle here.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 26 Sep 2012, 10:46

I do usually prefer faces (and eyes) as well, but since the new chargen didn't allow me to create a face I was happy with or could identify with the character (change is haaaard), I figured I'd do something totally different. Ending up doing that, I figured I'd make a point with the hiding of the face, too.

I'm intrigued now. What kind of impression/effect did you want to achieve?

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Red on 26 Sep 2012, 13:15
Woooo I am late to this party!

I'm gonna limit myself to critiquing the portraits in the post above this one for brevity's sake:

My alt Jake that I have not played a lot ICly.

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My other alt that I used as a CEO for many things...

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5/10 - Jake's overall look is solid; the white tattoo compliments his skin tone and light hair rather nicely, I think. I kind of wish his eyebrows were a shade or two darker -- I can tell he's a middle-aged fella, but the color of his eyebrows lend a few more years to his look that feel a bit out of place. Darker eyebrows would also bring that lovely eye color out a bit more!

10/10 - Love this character design! The hair frames his face perfectly, the eyebrow shape and positioning make his expression incredibly stern, and the white goatee caps the look off quite nicely. This portrait is what I envision when I think of older Khanid men.



Heeeeere's Red!

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I was also asked very nicely to put my in-game bosslady's portrait up for your rating pleasure XD

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 26 Sep 2012, 18:01
After reading some comments, i have made some changes to Dilaro. While he may not be long for this world (probably retiring him to Matar soon) his cheekbones were a little excessive. so, changes have been made.

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I have made a couple of changes to Rok as well, but at the moment, only the first iteration of changes have shown up on eve gate. took some advice and made him bigger on the portrait. though i still don't like the dreads, for some reason the light doesn't seem to hit them right at all and just diffuses throughout.. fibre-optic hair perhaps?

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as the newest version of Rok has yet to appear, i will post it in another reply once it has updated on eve-gate.

So... better??

UPDATE: Rok's new pic has appearred, and the one here has automatically updated.. lol. different hair to his old one
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 26 Sep 2012, 18:22
So... better??

Definitely! I really like Dilaro's pic, now. Rok looks better, too.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 26 Sep 2012, 18:39

I do usually prefer faces (and eyes) as well, but since the new chargen didn't allow me to create a face I was happy with or could identify with the character (change is haaaard), I figured I'd do something totally different. Ending up doing that, I figured I'd make a point with the hiding of the face, too.

I'm intrigued now. What kind of impression/effect did you want to achieve?

Hmm, well briefly, I wanted to tackle two themes: the problem of celebrity and mostly separately from that, overcoming a dark past/infamy/untrustworthiness and forging a new future. I guess it sounds high-flying written out like that, but that's how I roll.

Oh, and I like Rok. He seems genial, almost normal, but probably a fun dude to hang out with, but he definitely has an edge that you don't want to cross. The lighting could be a little less harsh, though.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Leopold Caine on 27 Sep 2012, 05:50
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The smirk.

Your all portraits are horrible, besides Lyn's because of that nose and all and it looks genuinely ammatar.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laerise [PIE] on 29 Sep 2012, 13:37
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4242/iamdeathdestroyerofworl.jpg)

Took some of the great advice/commentary and ran with it - more of the same please :D
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Seriphyn on 02 Oct 2012, 07:34
dem eyes...dey glow  :eek:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laerise [PIE] on 02 Oct 2012, 07:36
dem eyes...dey glow  :eek:

Hahaha, yes. Took me quite a while to get that to work properly with the rest of the portrait in the chargen. I found out about it by accident and then ran with it 100%  :D What do you think?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Leopold Caine on 04 Oct 2012, 03:09
Took some of the great advice/commentary and ran with it - more of the same please :D

she mad, bro
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: BloodBird on 05 Oct 2012, 17:19
There are a really large number of portraits here by now and many of them are great. I should get around to making a list of sorts of the best among them (my opinion ofc) but for now, I've no time. All I can say though, is DAT LAERISE. Displeased, unhappy, angry and non-liberal Imperialist disagreeing makes for epic expressions. Well done.

For my part, I'll offer the only portrait among all my toons that I'm even remotely happy with. Likely not going to re-make it as it will likely be hard to beat the most fitting expression for this toon, so far.

I do, however, miss his haircut. CCP give us back the Intaki haircuts darn it, why did you remove them... :psyccp:

(http://i883.photobucket.com/albums/ac34/Terenin_Amatiril/NxA%20Avatar%20Album/Random%20stuff/612540301.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 05 Oct 2012, 19:24
@Bloodbird

For my part I'm very happy with Katla's new Un-taki hairstyle (or lack of it). I do miss the old crazypunk hair and Ni-Kunni faceveil tattoo Ruby used to have, though.

I can see why you like this picture. The expression is great and creates a lot of tension in the picture, making it appear dynamic. The background frames the character's face nicely, and the dark clothes combine with that to bring the face more into focus.

That effect is significantly diminished by the lighting, however. Half your character's face is covered in shadow, and I think that's doing it a disservice. You may have intended the lighting to evoke a...well, grimdark mood, but the background, clothes and wonderful expression all combine to do that already. The only thing the lighting (or lack of it) does is make the face more anonymous. Change that, and it will make an already good portrait better, imho.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 06 Oct 2012, 10:03
People tell me Kat looks like a man.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 06 Oct 2012, 11:39
Allrighty.

Finally happy with my new toon and the way he looks. May change his clothing, but for now that's unimportant.

here is Toluijin Chagangan

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 06 Oct 2012, 14:40
Allrighty.

Finally happy with my new toon and the way he looks. May change his clothing, but for now that's unimportant.

here is Toluijin Chagangan

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Very nice!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 06 Oct 2012, 15:46
People tell me Kat looks like a man.

Only if that man is a blonde, exceedingly effeminate version of Marilyn Manson.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 06 Oct 2012, 18:18
Allrighty.

Finally happy with my new toon and the way he looks. May change his clothing, but for now that's unimportant.

here is Toluijin Chagangan

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He looks good, only complaint is that his facial hair and head hair are two different colours, which always strikes me as just looking off and wrong.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 06 Oct 2012, 19:52
Now that you mention it, that is a little odd...

i chose the same colours for root and hair, so there shouldn't have been that discrepancy...
ah well.. black hair it is. i suppose that genetically that does make more sense.

UPDATE: hair colour fixed... black/black instead of dark brown/slightly lighter brown.

I suppose the part i like the best is the way the plasma burn along the right side of his face (his right, not ours) works in the lighting... that and the fact that he looks like someone just commented on slavery near him and he has locked eyes on the person responsible for the comment.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 08 Oct 2012, 09:36
Laerise: Eyes look a lot better! Very creepy, which suits her :)
Bloodbird: I don't know this toon - Very dark portrait and expression gives a brooding type vibe, but at the same time it almost looks like he could be smiling just a tiny tiny bit.
Kat: Does not look like a man. I think it matches her new attitude, she's all serious business and I like it!
Toluijin Chagangan: I don't know this toon - Someone's had a hard life, and not very a happy about it. I do like the shirt.

Mitty has grown her hair back out now that Theobald has some control over his hands :-)
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ava Starfire on 09 Oct 2012, 05:57
Remembered why I hate forums. Later.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Leopold Caine on 09 Oct 2012, 06:06
Both boring, looking out randomly and whatnot.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 09 Oct 2012, 06:17
Ava is, as always, Ava.. She's great. :)

I agree on the aging point, It seems to be somewhat more apparent on males, I figure the designers just think that women should age less noticeably.

Dilaro and Graelyn look old... but that said, the age thing never touches more than the face... and it is mentioned in TEA, that Falek had the face of an old man but the unblemished and smooth skin of a newborn child... (i'm guessing TonyG meant after they'd cleaned up the goop... :P )
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ava Starfire on 09 Oct 2012, 06:29
Some of my thoughts on the people's pics. Note, I am sticking to the people I know; it is hard to judge a portrait without knowing "the person", at least a little, and while I may NOT like some avatars, if i dont know the character, I cannot say "Yep, fits" or "no, dosent". My 1-10 ratings are pretty arbitrary; they are how much I like THAT INDIVIDUAL PORTRAIT, having nothing to do with what i think of the character or their appearance overall, ok?

Saede: Has a definate "I hang out in alleys near ATMs and smoke cigarettes" vibe. The dark skin and hair works well with the subdued light. 9/10 just because i dont like dark skinned sebbies, heh.

Des: She does creepy, and does it pretty well. The eye makeup in the 1st page pic strikes me as odd, though. Dosent seemto belong? 9.5/10

Graelyn: The salty, crotchety Amarr with a firm, focused expression that ISNT A SCOWL. Kudos for this, one of the best pics in-game. 10/10

Vaun looks young, naieve, and has just the slightest hint of a smirk of superiority. Perfect. 10/10

N'maro is awesome; has a rare look of smugness and superiority that entirely too few Minmatar characters can pull off. Ace. 10/10

Kala: Kala has the blend of disarray, a realistic expression, unusual hair and outfit, and in short, looks very, very individual. I love her kind of faraway look in the profile pic. 10/10.

Silas: Arrogant and smug... and almost too much so, Just like the character herself! Silas' pic fits her, though Ive always wondered about the eyes? Anyway, great pic, 9/10

Istvaan: Dude. 10/10. Seriously. He looks like a psycho... and by this I mean the calculating, not-an-idiot, uses people like postage stamps, psycho. Fitting and very, very unusual. The shaved head works for him, and makes him look even more like "Just an everyday businessman..."

Kentt: Looks like a bad guy in a kung-fu movie, which works. I'd expect to see him trying to cut up Jackie Chan with a switchblade. 10/10, that smirk brings it home.

Lyn: I LOVE her eyes, and her expression, facial structure, and long hair, though I thought short-haired lynn was cute. She looks Matari, yet quite a lot like i picture nefantar. 10/10

Ael: This pic is a good one. I like her outfit, a combo of business and biker, and I like the short hair and serious expression. 9/10

Norrin: He looks like a jock I went to school with, right down to the sunglasses, perfect hair, and smirk. Well done, well done! I even like the jacket. 9/10

Yuni: Reminds me of whats her name from the 5th element. Cool pic, the eyes work very, very well for her. once again, though, why the eye makeup? 8/10

Gottii: THAT PIC. He's scowling, he's down, and he has dreads. Sideways and head down is a pretty unique pose, and I love how i can just make out his eyes in the shadow. 10/10

Ruby: I dont know any of these toons, but wanted to comment; She is so awesome, other than one thing... lip color. Bright pink is just jarring, other than that, I really, really like this pic. A ni-kunni who looks happy and open!  8/10 for Ruby (would be 10/10 from me, but, lip color..!)

John: Looks like an older, slightly frazzled, slightly troubled man, yet with some mischief in his expression. I really like this pic, but the light seems off? 8/10

Red: RED! One of my favorite characters and avatars. Captures "hedonistic gallenteness" without even trying. 10/10, simply for being unusual, pretty, and not duckfaced, but fun and mischeivious.

Leopold: My favorite bad guy from a movie about organized crime in Chinatown. His hair and expression are great. 9/10

Laerise: I loved the old pic much, much more. This one, she looks sort of like a vengeful stepchild, peering around the corner into mom and dad's room while they sleep... is that what you were going for? 6/10

Kat: Kat has the simultaneously most "standard Caldari" yet most immediately recognizable look of any female caldari toon I can think of. She looks very down to business, and a bit like she is planning to steal your car. The lips bring her pic to closure, almost like she is enjoying some joke only she understands. 10/10

Mitara: I love the new pic. She looks happier, yet retains this look of superiority without a look of outright bitchiness. Bonus points for ni-kunni, entirely too few of them in game, and especially in RP. 10/10
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ava Starfire on 09 Oct 2012, 06:32
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ava Starfire on 09 Oct 2012, 06:47
Both boring, looking out randomly and whatnot.

Wow.

Thank you for this illuminating constructive criticism, Leo. Please, never hesitate to share your nuggets of wisdom.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: BloodBird on 09 Oct 2012, 10:01
Both boring, looking out randomly and whatnot.

Wow.

Thank you for this illuminating constructive criticism, Leo. Please, never hesitate to share your nuggets of wisdom.

Saved me the effort. Leo, you could atl let us know why you came to that conclusion.

Unless ofc, your just trolling.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 09 Oct 2012, 10:17
Both boring, looking out randomly and whatnot.

Wow.

Thank you for this illuminating constructive criticism, Leo. Please, never hesitate to share your nuggets of wisdom.

Saved me the effort. Leo, you could atl let us know why you came to that conclusion.

Unless ofc, your just trolling.

I'm going to guess he's just trolling. ::bitter bitter::
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 09 Oct 2012, 10:18
Updated my post with a picture!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laerise [PIE] on 09 Oct 2012, 12:51
Laerise: I loved the old pic much, much more. This one, she looks sort of like a vengeful stepchild, peering around the corner into mom and dad's room while they sleep... is that what you were going for? 6/10

Actually, yes - or at least kind of  ;)

Someone else was nice enough to photoshop in another background (http://www.pieinc.co.uk/community/board/uploads/monthly_09_2012/post-2921-1348957728.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 09 Oct 2012, 13:57
Laerise: I loved the old pic much, much more. This one, she looks sort of like a vengeful stepchild, peering around the corner into mom and dad's room while they sleep... is that what you were going for? 6/10

Actually, yes - or at least kind of  ;)

Someone else was nice enough to photoshop in another background (http://www.pieinc.co.uk/community/board/uploads/monthly_09_2012/post-2921-1348957728.png)
Ah yes, a post card from Laerise's stay on Rens!

:)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aldrith Shutaq on 09 Oct 2012, 14:05
Is it too late for Aldy to get in on this party?

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/768582425_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 09 Oct 2012, 14:15
Ouuuuu, now there's a handsome Ni-Kunni!

 ;)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 09 Oct 2012, 19:46
Ruby: I dont know any of these toons, but wanted to comment; She is so awesome, other than one thing... lip color. Bright pink is just jarring, other than that, I really, really like this pic. A ni-kunni who looks happy and open!  8/10 for Ruby (would be 10/10 from me, but, lip color..!)

I like these observations. They confirm that Ruby's fashion sense is indeed off, the way it should be. It bears mention that one of her most commonly worn outfits, as I've described her, include an ankle-length red skirt, a black-and-white-checkered shirt and a long, yellow oilskin coat.

And she definitely friendly and open, so yay for you picking up on that.  :D

Still, I had to do a lot of "lesser evil" choices when I designed Ruby's portrait, in terms of stuff like mouth, hair, facial decoration and clothes. Ideally her lips should be so thin as to hardly be there at all, but that wasn't an option as I remember it. If she has to have them, they should be disharmonic in some way.

Conversely, I'm very, very pleased with the way I made Katla look.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Rok-Yuni on 10 Oct 2012, 05:54
Yuni: Reminds me of whats her name from the 5th element. Cool pic, the eyes work very, very well for her. once again, though, why the eye makeup? 8/10

Ah, Yuni's makeup and piercings....

simply put, it's her attempt at human fashion... it was originally designed to look a bit overstated and wrong... as she got most of her fashion ideas from capsuleers, and there are a few out there, who raise the 'average percentage of face coverage' up a bit... over time she may well choose different makeup or remove most of it entirely.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 10 Oct 2012, 13:55
Is it too late for Aldy to get in on this party?

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/768582425_512.jpg)

Phlegmatic ni-kunni is phlegmatic.  :cube:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jalenar Frost on 10 Oct 2012, 22:44
just because I stopped by...

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I miss my green hair.  :/

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Guess I might as well add Voila too:

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Makkal on 09 Jun 2013, 09:55
Saede – the current image has always been ‘just there’ for me, but dude!Saede is very attractive

Sid – Prefer the current officer look to the one you were rocking a year back.

Veikitamo – You seem to be changing your portrait on a daily basis. I’ve mentioned in game which hair cut I like the most on her.

Desiderya – I don’t think I’ve ever interacted with your character but she does come off as practical and straight forward

Graelyn – I preferred it when the image wasn’t so close to the face

Silas – Sometimes I wish you’d kept with the white hair/eyes/shirt combo but I’ve gotten used to the dark hair as well.

Hellgremlin – I like the post and the red shirt but prefer the ‘star’ background you use for the avatar on this forum.

Lyn – Whoa! When did your character look like that?

Laerise – the yellow eyeliner has always seemed off to me.

Norrin – I always imagine your avatar cruising down a Miami street in a convertible

Yuni – One of the few characters who can carry off the white eyes. I’ve wondered what she’d look like in other shirt’s/jackets though as I never thought that one fit her.

Gotti – Great work

Katla – I’ve always found that avatar a touch too plan, but at the same time it’s subtly intimidating.



Current Makkal image!
(http://i.imgur.com/AfO9K4Q.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 09 Jun 2013, 10:40
Makkal: Always liked your portrait. She's got the Padme Amidala lipstick thing going on too, which is always a plus.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 09 Jun 2013, 11:34
Lyn – Whoa! When did your character look like that?


A while ago, when we didn't have access to all skin complexion tones (but with bloodlines unique ones though, like this one that I have no more access to now). That was the lighter tone I could get, which annoyed the hell out of me.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 09 Jun 2013, 21:53
I like Makkal's portrait, too. Lovely and distinctive face, good pose, good lighting and an intriguingly wistful expression, it looks to me. If there's one change I'd make, it would be to change the background to something less red. I'd like to see how she would look against a background with a lot of blue in it.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lasairiona on 10 Jun 2013, 03:23
I'll bite (http://image.eveonline.com/Character/93404971_256.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anslol on 10 Jun 2013, 06:23
8/10. Lasa's kayoot. EDIT: The only reason I don't make it higher is because Lasa's face is really hidden by her hair and zoomed out so I can't...totally see her features. Everything else is fine.

inb4 Anslo -10/10

EDIT2:...can I actually get rated? :<
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laria Raven on 10 Jun 2013, 07:44
There's a sadness about all of Lasa's portraits that I find more interesting than the fact that she's attractive.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lasairiona on 10 Jun 2013, 09:32
There's a sadness about all of Lasa's portraits that I find more interesting than the fact that she's attractive.

Oh good! I'm glad it comes across :)  :cube:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shintoko Akahoshi on 10 Jun 2013, 13:59
I've always liked the thoughtful pose you've got Lasa in. It really captures something of her character.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kyoko Sakoda on 10 Jun 2013, 18:17
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1320834511_512.jpg)

Rate all you want, but it's not likely Kokobear's portrait will be changing. It's the best/most accurate it has been since 2004.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lasairiona on 11 Jun 2013, 01:41
Something about the nose and the eyes seem off....I don't know what it is. She looks a bit manish.  :ugh:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laria Raven on 11 Jun 2013, 06:52
I change Laria's portrait a lot, but here's the latest:

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4044008/Laria%20portrait.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anslol on 11 Jun 2013, 08:37
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/299175905_1024.jpg)

NOW I can has rate?

At risk of pain from Shin...
7/10. She looks nice but the makeup is a little heavy and her cheeks are shallow enough to make me want to feed her.

red makeup+rust background=too much. Not enough contrast...I mean the red contrasts...but in a weird way.

Don't ask me why I know about this.

Also, I WAS rating people in my first post but everyone ignored me D:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shintoko Akahoshi on 11 Jun 2013, 09:09
Handsome, despite all the facial hardware. Though I wonder if he gets crap from the Minmatar for that facial tattoo...

Though you're really supposed to rate Laria, Anslo. Go! Rate her!

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3760/imagejgv.jpg)
My turn! As you can see, I've gotten lazy about posing for the character portraits.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lasairiona on 11 Jun 2013, 09:17
Laria: Cute, but her lips are a little Angelina Jolie-ish. :)

Anslo: Too many clicks in the body mod category  ;) but he's cute. Personality aside, Lasa would hit on him.

Shin: Love the eyes :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anslol on 11 Jun 2013, 09:21
Anslo: Too many clicks in the body mod category  ;) but he's cute. Personality aside, Lasa would hit on him.

That's a first.

As for Shin, 0/10, looks like an alien. Stay away from my spleen you human eater.

#realtalk#dropthemic: 8/10 would cuddle. Would be a 9, but the hair has me confused. Aside from that, she's good.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: BloodBird on 11 Jun 2013, 10:11
Handsome, despite all the facial hardware. Though I wonder if he gets crap from the Minmatar for that facial tattoo...

Should that happen Anslo will be in the perfect spot to slap them silly for their clear bias and foolish belief that any tattoos are Minmatar only. Anslo's tat is Fed-centric and has nothing to do with the Matari, much like pretty much any other Fed character of Gallente/Jin-Mei/Intaki origin.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ché Biko on 11 Jun 2013, 10:13
I like her expression. And the hair.
But Shintoko looks too cartoony for my tastes. I don't really know why, as each part of her face looks fine, but how it all comes together is a bit...weird. I think it's mostly the smooth skin and the lips. The neck is a bit wierd too. And I don't feel the background fits with her appearance.
I think I would use less make up, make the lips smaller and the skin less smooth, and use a pose that would give the neck less of a "bend".
54/100
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1431146475_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lasairiona on 11 Jun 2013, 10:40
Sorry, Che. Mohawks are a big thumbs down for me.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 11 Jun 2013, 14:09
There is something in Ché's pose. Wrinkles at the corner of the eyes, make him look wise.

The neck is a bit wierd too.

Giraffe necks and shoulders stretched in the back for females in Eve mostly, which hurts my anatomical sense. Much like on that old gallente green flavor pic from day one.

Usually the neck starts to look like that when you don't add a jacket or something. It's very hard to hide.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 12 Jun 2013, 11:43
any thoughts on Saede since I changed her jacket?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Korsavius on 12 Jun 2013, 12:02
Look into my soul.
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1527239342_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Sepherim on 13 Jun 2013, 08:35
Korsavius I like. Scary and sinister, but not in an obvious way. He seems to convey the sense that violence could erupt and break out at any moment without warning. And that direct look definitely seems to say "you got all the tickets to that violence, man!". Even the background fits perfectly. 95/100.

There's a sadness about all of Lasa's portraits that I find more interesting than the fact that she's attractive.

Sadness? I thought it was dreamy, a bit ethereal, but not sad. :? Oh, and 85/100.

Quote from: Lyn Farel
There is something in Ché's pose. Wrinkles at the corner of the eyes, make him look wise.

Yup no doubt, also gives the look of someone who has seen much in his life, which fits the character a lot. Though I agree about the mohawks. xD 90/100.

(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j166/Sepherim/EVE/Seph.jpg) (http://s80.photobucket.com/user/Sepherim/media/EVE/Seph.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 13 Jun 2013, 16:23
I love seeing these portraits! Also I think they keep getting better with the years. People seem to get better and better at achieving a good effect. The mood of Korsavius is just *wow*, excellent! I like Sepherim, but the expression is a bit off, too blank. Try suggest making him look into the camera more, or a bit away from it more.

Here's my attempt at a homely Amarr girl:

(http://www.amarrvictor.com/images/ninusi16.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 13 Jun 2013, 17:10
Not so sure on that last one, it's almost like the lights are on, but nobody's home. Might just be how the eyes are positioned though, she seems to be focussing on something beyond the person she's looking at. Could just be me though.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 14 Jun 2013, 10:35
Not so sure on that last one, it's almost like the lights are on, but nobody's home. Might just be how the eyes are positioned though, she seems to be focussing on something beyond the person she's looking at. Could just be me though.

Well, I was trying to capture a daydreamer like quality. A bit naive girl more involved in her inner fantasies and hopes than the outside world. So maybe I got the feeling right. Sometimes moving the pupils a a few pixels can make a world of difference.

Or since they've started airing Game of Thrones I can now call it the 'Sansa Stark type'.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 14 Jun 2013, 13:32
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Have to say, I vastly preferred Che's old portrait. It had good posture, good lighting, and good framing. This one feels fairly bland, and the framing is very off. There's a ton of empty space with no balancing element to make up for it. I'd recommend pulling the camera in a bit, and moving the character closer to the center--or finding a background that adds a strong visual element to the left side.

All that said, the expression is good, and the lighting has some nice contrast.

Look into my soul.
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I've always loved Korsavius' portrait. The best portraits, IMO, display the character, and Kor's has a lot of character. The lighting is also well-done and sets a great mood. He is a definitive Scary Black Man (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ScaryBlackMan).

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Can't say I'm a big fan of Sepherim's. It looks decent on the large image, but poor on the more-commonly-seen smaller ones. It's too zoomed out, so I'd recommend pulling the camera in a bit, and eliminating some of the head space (empty area above the head). Also, the pose feels a bit 'flat'. Full frontal portraits are very hard to make look well, since it's a fairly 'basic' posture that doesn't have much 'action' to it.

Here's my attempt at a homely Amarr girl:

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I love this one, since I am always highly appreciative of good Amarr female portraits. Face-wise, it's excellently designed (actually, one of the better Amarr females I've seen so far), and the lighting is good, too--centered on the face and with a good amount of contrast. Like Sepherim's, though, I recommend cutting away the head space. Right now the portrait feels bottom heavy due to the wasted space at the top.

I'd also recommend twisting the body to one side or another. Like with Sepherim's, though to a lesser degree, a directly frontal portrait lacks movement to make it interesting.

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This one is good. Same comment about headspace, but the posture is good; it has just enough of a twist to it that it stands out. I'd say the main complaint I have about this one is that there's not a lot of contrast. It's a lot of 'cool' colors: pale brown background, pale face, pale brown/beige outfit. I'd recommend either stronger contrast on the lighting to get some brighter highlights, or changing the background or outfit to have more oppositional colors with each other.



And here's Samira:

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92903168_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 15 Jun 2013, 06:00
I have always loved Samira, but at the opposite of bottom heavy, the head is cut-off and so, seems too high. Also - and that might well be engine limitations as I had the same issue when I used a profile portrait - the eyebrow seems prominent (in terms of mesh). I know this is something I absolutely hate, especially on brutor models (hard to get rid off), and I am not surprised to see it on other bloodlines as well.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Repentence Tyrathlion on 15 Jun 2013, 06:52
I'll bite.

There's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many portraits to go through, so I'll just cover the most recent ones. :P

Anslo I quite like.  Some portraits just blend together on IGS (particularly a lot of the Caldari girls, sadly), but I can always spot Anslo if I'm browsing through a thread.  Distinctive and well put together without being too flashy.

Shin:  There's just something off about the portrait when magnified.  Can't put my finger on it.

Che: You look way more badass in the small version. :P  Blown up like that... it kind of screams 'teenager with rebellion issues'.  Again, can't quite put my finger on what the specific issue is; maybe the hairstyle and bearing just doesn't quite seem to match with smooth face and half-smile.  Although Lyn has a point about the eye wrinkles, so maybe I'm just being picky.

Korsavius I love.  It's the face of someone with nothing to prove.  He's quite happy just waiting for you to do something dumb.  If you don't, great.  If you do... run.

Sepherim... like Anslo, Sepherim stands out a bit on IGS, which is no bad thing.  Does feel a tad generic, though.  Basic character is good, portrait lacks any real depth.

Merd's girly: definitely an interesting experiment.  Not bad.

Gabriel: Holyshitthoseeyes.  I feel pinned to the spot by those things.  Nice work.

Samira's cute.  There's a nice bit of humility that fits with what little I know of the character, nice eye positioning.

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Clicky for larger version.  Honestly it needs updating, but I keep putting it off because I like the pose, even if it does look slightly awkward if you look at it for too long.  Reppy's amazing for WiS, actually - she somehow manages to appear bored and impatient the whole time, which fits her to a T  :lol:

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I don't like Elysa, unfortunately.  I did my best, but Carbon was extremely cruel to her.  I'll be doing a rebuild and reportrait when I get to reactivating her account.  Any thoughts?

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The original dude, who will likely never be reactivated now, so he's just around for posterity.  I'm still bitter about my helmet.  Despite the fact that I originally resolved never to show him without it, I think he turned out quite nicely.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 15 Jun 2013, 08:40
I decided to tweak Arnulf to match his chibi self's hair colour. Otherwise fairly unchanged.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ciarente on 15 Jun 2013, 11:54
People tell me Kat looks like a man.

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If Kat looks like a man, she's a man I'd turn for.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ciarente on 15 Jun 2013, 11:56
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1320834511_512.jpg)

Rate all you want, but it's not likely Kokobear's portrait will be changing. It's the best/most accurate it has been since 2004.

I miss old Kokobear  :(
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 15 Jun 2013, 15:28
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This one is good. Same comment about headspace, but the posture is good; it has just enough of a twist to it that it stands out. I'd say the main complaint I have about this one is that there's not a lot of contrast. It's a lot of 'cool' colors: pale brown background, pale face, pale brown/beige outfit. I'd recommend either stronger contrast on the lighting to get some brighter highlights, or changing the background or outfit to have more oppositional colors with each other.

Amended slightly, I've zoomed in by a notch and done a Background swap. None of the other standard jacket options really fitted so I left the clothes as they were.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 15 Jun 2013, 15:52
I have to admit that I do not like the background change. The uniform, pale shade of beige/brown was perfectly coherent and pleasing to the eye for me This contrast is aggressive.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gabriel Darkefyre on 15 Jun 2013, 15:59
Aye, have to agree with that. I preferred the more industrial background.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 15 Jun 2013, 18:33
Here's Saede after some minor updates and the addition of a classy jacket:
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 15 Jun 2013, 18:45
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This one is good. Same comment about headspace, but the posture is good; it has just enough of a twist to it that it stands out. I'd say the main complaint I have about this one is that there's not a lot of contrast. It's a lot of 'cool' colors: pale brown background, pale face, pale brown/beige outfit. I'd recommend either stronger contrast on the lighting to get some brighter highlights, or changing the background or outfit to have more oppositional colors with each other.

Amended slightly, I've zoomed in by a notch and done a Background swap. None of the other standard jacket options really fitted so I left the clothes as they were.

Yeah, the red background went in entirely the opposite direction. Was too much contrast that way. I think it's probably the lighting that bothers me with it. Something with more highlights to make the character 'stick out' more would work better IMO. It's not bad as it is, though. :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 15 Jun 2013, 19:20
I'm not really sure how I feel about Gwens portrait. I really love the pose and think it looks perfect in the character builder, but the way hair renders is... Not ideal.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: hellgremlin on 15 Jun 2013, 20:38
You're right. It looks like a bird shat in it. Were I to encounter you on the street, I would offer you my second finest handkerchief, and the most genuine expression of compassion I could fake while glaring scornfully heavenward.

(while internally giggling)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 15 Jun 2013, 21:59
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Havo turned out a little youngish-looking, but not bad, imo.  Might use a plex to make him look a little bit angrier in the future, but the sort of disaffected look is good on him, I think.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ayallah on 15 Jun 2013, 22:30
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mithfindel on 16 Jun 2013, 02:43
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Havo turned out a little youngish-looking, but not bad, imo.  Might use a plex to make him look a little bit angrier in the future, but the sort of disaffected look is good on him, I think.
You need to use PLEX only if you want to change skin tone, bone structure etc. - you can change pose & facial expression when ever you please.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 16 Jun 2013, 12:50
Sweet!  Thanks for the info
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 17 Jun 2013, 17:25
Havohej
 :eek: That's not the Havo I know and love.... that's some young punk still wet behind the ears. Good job on the matching eye-color and background, portrait is decent, lacks a bit in character but otherwise ok. Its just that my perception of Havo and this image are just too far apart to properly match up.

Gwen
I like the fact that at least the pose is memorable, but on the other hand: the neck seems too long, the hair renders in a way that distracts from the rest of the portrait and the expression doesn't match. Raised chin, downcast eyes, flat eyebrows and slight smile is not a valid human emotion. Leonardo Da Vinci might be able to pull of such a feat with the Mona Lisa due to excellent compositioning, but in an EVE portrait I prefer stuff that feels more real.

Saede
Love that portrait! Excellent background choice, natural expression, good use of color (ooh, yellow eyes on brown!), good use of facial direction and pose to make the portrait interesting, tattoos and piercings add to the portrait rather than subtract from it. All-around good stuff!

Ayallah
This portrait looks a bit artificial. Perfect looking skin, but then a scar on a dominant spot to distract the attention doesn't work for me. Blue eyes that don't match with the rest of the face, and also conflict with the background color, causing them to be distracting rather than attractive. Can't really tell what kind of expression that is meant to be, doesn't touch any emotional strings in me.

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 17 Jun 2013, 17:29

If Kat looks like a man, she's a man I'd turn for.

She does not look like a man, but her expression has aspects typically associated with masculinity. The expression evokes an emotion of challenge. Set mouth, straight fixed chin but with eyes cast up from beneath eyebrows, with no frowning or raising in the eyebrows. The addition of the scar enhances that feeling.

This person means business, and better not mess with her or you'll regret it!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Makkal on 17 Jun 2013, 19:07
Is there any way we can make these images smaller?

It's difficult to judge a portrait when I have to scroll to see the entire thing.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 17 Jun 2013, 20:43
Is there any way we can make these images smaller?

It's difficult to judge a portrait when I have to scroll to see the entire thing.

Right click the image, copy link location. Paste the image hyperlink into a new tab or window. You can choose a selection of sizes for direct links to the EVEGate server, assuming they are hosted there instead of imgur or something. The useful sizes are usually in standard doubles of eight.

64x64
128x128
256x256
512x512
1024x1024
... and some other oddly sized ones that don't fit the pattern, mostly used for the EVE website character icons and such.

https:// image.eveonline.com/ Character/92149662_1024.jpg

That spot right there can be swapped out for smaller numbers. The highest resolution I've seen it go has only been 1024. There may be a larger size but I've yet to learn of it.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 08:36
There may be a larger size but I've yet to learn of it.

I don't believe there is, at least not available publicly. The renders done by the server may be done larger.

Lessee, some of the more recent ones, going backwards...

Havo: The portrait itself is nicely done on its own merits, but doesn't really do a very good job of conveying the character I know Havo to be. It's too calm and open and innocent, with no hint of the more sinister, hostile behavior the character is associated with. Very jarring.

Aya: The background feels a little bland and too close to her skin tone, but you've definitely got her attitude portrayed accurately with the sunglasses and expression.

Gwen: Agreed about the hair. One of the reasons I don't really use the longer hair styles is that anti-grav tech seems to be included in the deal. The portrait really seems to suit the way the character has been portrayed in the past. The lack of even a slight touch of makeup around the eyes makes her look a little like she just got out of bed (which is an issue with my own Achuran, imo - see below), but it's not very easy to notice unless you're looking for it and using the high-res portraits.

Saede: Agreed with most of the other comments here - you've done a pretty good job of getting the 'tomboy' look already. I think easing up on some of the makeup would help it go further, but definitely not removing it wholesale.

Arnulf: I'm reminded of a Sid with hair, and slightly more sunken cheeks. There's something a little off about the portrait but I can't quite put my finger on it - it might be the way you've positioned him within the portrait off to one side, with the lighting.

Reppy: I kind of preferred the original post-Incursion one a bit to this, but her face definitely needs deserves more showing off than that version allowed for, as proof that you -can- still make a pretty Khanid after the changes. :cube:

Elysa: ... Yeah, what you said. I miss her older portrait, but with the direction you seem to be taking her in, a slightly gruffer, more :grr: look suits her. Also, I think it was less Carbon and more your machine at the time. I think I have MSN logs. ;)

Mortis: He looks good, but yeah. Helmet. Requiar.

Samira: You've always done a good job with her in your portraits, especially with taking advantage of the makeup settings to make her look like an addict. The removal of her tattoo draws attention to some of the ways Carbon is wibbly about cheekbones, though - it used to hide that pretty well.

Gabe: Sebiestor males always come off a little weird to me (it's mostly the cheeks), but I really, really like the contrast of his eyes to the background here.

Lady Merdaneth: Agreed with the others - really well-done but needs to take better advantage of the space available for the portrait. Early 30s in age?

Seph: I love the slight smile-less smirk on his face. The things on his forehead seem a little... off, though, and I think you could make better use of the space available. Maybe try turning him a little to make the portrait less static.

Korsavius: Very good, though it comes off as... more sinister than Kor gives the impression of being, IC. Also: I'm waiting for someone to Goa'uld-ize it.

Che: Good, but I think that the open space on the left doesn't really add as much to the portrait as using it might.

Shin: The black lipstick feels off, but the attentive expression suits her well. :cube:

Guess I should throw mine into the mix. Displaying the 512px versions; 1024px versions can be viewed by clicking.

Morwen Lagann:
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/462207810_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/462207810_1024.jpg)

Mirelle "Momwen" Lagann (yes, actually used for RP):
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91358431_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91358431_1024.jpg)

Naoko Kanaka (Original main, used to RP with, not as much anymore):
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1738071693_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1738071693_1024.jpg)

Suzelle Dullere (Morwen's XO, referenced in RP, rarely used):
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1794259183_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1794259183_1024.jpg)

Keta Lindur (Referenced in RP, never used):
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91105890_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91105890_1024.jpg)

Ophelia "Feely" Kiselouvre (Not really an RP character... yet):
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92788942_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92788942_1024.jpg)

There's a bunch of really minor tweaks I want to make to most of them. Morwen's lips feel a little wide (might just be the lipstick or lighting), Naoko needs a touch-up around the eyes, and Feely's chin feels a little weird (:effort: to shell out a plex to fix it, might see if a different pose works better sometime).

(Edit - removed the table to be more friendly to smaller screens; came out wider than I intended.)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anslol on 18 Jun 2013, 08:46
WOW WAY TO IGNORE MY PORTRAIT  :evil:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vincent Pryce on 18 Jun 2013, 08:51
WOW WAY TO IGNORE MY PORTRAIT  :evil:

We only do it to feed your hateful feelings. Soon you will join me in the Gospel of Hate, for I am the Hate Pope.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 18 Jun 2013, 08:57
Keta always seemed as if she had the potential to be rather cool to me Morwrawr, more of her plz plz
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 08:58
Keta always seemed as if she had the potential to be rather cool to me Morwrawr, more of her plz plz

She's on Morwen's account. That's why she doesn't get used. :\
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 18 Jun 2013, 09:03
Keta always seemed as if she had the potential to be rather cool to me Morwrawr, more of her plz plz

She's on Morwen's account. That's why she doesn't get used. :\

Excuses excuses. I play on the alts I have on my main's account from time to time :P
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 09:05
I'm not going to log in a no-skill alt if I can't -do something- besides RP the same time. Believe it or not, I do actually undock with Morwen quite regularly and enjoy doing things in space. Kinda can't do that with a director alt with no skills. :P

We're off-topic, though.

Edit - I guess I could IGS post with her occasionally, but eh. Effort to figure out her own posting habits is too damn high. :P

WOW WAY TO IGNORE MY PORTRAIT  :evil:
(http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/328/4/b/trollface___umad__wallpaper_by_embarrassment-d5lzxed.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 18 Jun 2013, 09:06
Havo: The portrait itself is nicely done on its own merits, but doesn't really do a very good job of conveying the character I know Havo to be. It's too calm and open and innocent, with no hint of the more sinister, hostile behavior the character is associated with. Very jarring.
I kinda felt the old grey-skinned scowler was too angry looking and conveyed neither the Michael Corleone (cold, ruthless, calculating) nor the Joker-a la-Heath Ledger (some men just want to watch the world burn, more ruthlessness, aimless agression for its own sake, complete disconnect with humanity), and definitely not the tiny glowing ember that remembered humanity and was trying to cope with what it had/has become.

I think that as soon as I get the opportunity I'm going to spend quite a bit of time in that application, trying to generate the "Perfect" Havohej.  Around the same time I'll post one of those CONCORD Data Dumps for him in that thread and update his Charsheet/bio thing in the other thread.

Re: Morwen's portrait... that eye makeup.  It makes her look like she's been drinking too much for too many consecutive days with only 14 minutes of sleep throughout, isn't even interested in considering stopping, and has actually begun to weep bloody, alcohol-laden tears through her lacrymal glands.  It's actually quite disconcerting, and Havo may have mentioned it on IGS except Morwen's always talking about stuff Havo just has no position whatsoever on (so far as I've seen, three days into Forums Online).

The rest of the portraits all look pretty clean and representative of human characters with hopes and dreams and stuff that could be dashed... which is another aspect I need to subtly portray in Havo's portrait.  There is a man inside that mess.  I swear.

Also, Feely looks violent and promiscuous.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kul Shaishi on 18 Jun 2013, 09:11
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92170888_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anslol on 18 Jun 2013, 09:33
kul: 10/10, would worship. ALL HAIL THE GODDESS OF APPROVAL.

#realtalk: Plain but I actually like it. No frills or anything, very Caldari. I approve.

Also FUCK YOU MORLAG  :evil: :evil: :evil:I WILL SPEW MAD ERRYWHERE.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 18 Jun 2013, 09:37
#realtalk: Plain but I actually like it. No frills or anything, very Caldari. I approve.
Yeah.  I always have had this image of stoicism and direct action veiled by cryptic talk when I think of the Caldari.  Which is kinda why I've never gotten into that facet of the RP scene - an OOC prejudice about what Caldari and CalRP are all about.  Silly, isn't it.

Anyway, kul looks exactly like what I see in my mind's eye when someone says Caldari.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 09:41
Kul: I don't know enough about your character or RP to give an assessment in that context, but yours is one of the cases where the fully-facing-the-camera position works out well.

Anslo: 0/10 would troll again. (In all seriousness, he looks fine, though he comes off as too optimistic in that picture for as jaded as he seems IC.)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shiori on 18 Jun 2013, 09:56
Long-haired Achurans for maximum win. I went for a thoughtful, far-away look.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93057776_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 18 Jun 2013, 10:19
Anslo looks far too, just...neat, given the way you RP. I'd give him some 5 o'clock shadow and muss his hair. Also, I've never seen you mention his face tattoo ICly, which is odd considering how frequently you mention his back tattoo. If it has so little/no IC meaning, I'd say remove it, as it makes his face look rather crowded. Also maybe look at turning up the scarring slider if you have a remap available.

And maybe mess with the background/pose, dunno, something about the overall composition seems off, but I can't quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anslol on 18 Jun 2013, 10:36
Well the face tattoo gets no mention cause..well everyone can see it. If I could make the full body portrait show his back tattoos and bandages, I'd never mention them once...but sadly, I'm annoyingly obsessed with creating imagery via words. The 5 o'clock shadow might not be a bad idea...I tried it once though and it looked odd on him, but maybe I can do something else.

Now the scarring, I agree with you. I'll look into that and see what's up. But you're overall correct. I do need to update his portrait with something. What? I dunno.

I'll just do what I always do. Flail my arms and hope to Gods something good happens.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aldrith Shutaq on 18 Jun 2013, 10:49
Has anyone had an Aldy lately?

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/768582425_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laria Raven on 18 Jun 2013, 10:52
@Aldy - it feels like you're using the detail of the Carbon engine really well here - there's interesting lines on his face. I'd shift his direction of gaze to a fraction more away from the camera.

I like the shadowed eyes, too. (As opposed to eye-shadow, which would look odd)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 10:55
Has anyone had an Aldy lately?
No, because :mitara:!  :evil:

Still ♥ my favorite always-out-of-reach Ni-kunni prettyboy, though.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ciarente on 18 Jun 2013, 11:24
Saede, that's fantastic.  Aldy makes me think of a shampoo commercial but I suspect that's just Gottii's influence :P Seriously though the way you work the shadows in the char gen is fantastic.  I've always liked morwen's expression in her portrait but I've never liked that eye shadow.  Gottii, bring back the sunglasses!  Mitara, I like the portrait except I never imagined Mitty with brown gloss lipstick vov


Mine tend to have fairly similar poses and lighting because, well, I found one I liked ...

Cia, of course. I'm still not loving the hair (wai such bad hair options, CCP? wai? WAI?)

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1805049558_256.jpg)

Camille, now on the cusp of adolescence

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/2028914162_256.jpg)

My deteis scientist

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91179576_256.jpg)

and her ex

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92274069_256.jpg)





My Brutor

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/431289480_256.jpg)

and of course John "Jack" Prudence Madison

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1148212854_256.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Steffanie Saissore on 18 Jun 2013, 11:35
I have to say that I like everyone's portraits.

This is Steff's current portrait:
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93305774_512.jpg)

Ellisif Sinulf (sebbie tinker extraordinaire):
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93426840_512.jpg)

Morriganna Virpio (Caldari corporate security yes-man):
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93479774_512.jpg)

Though, not 100% happy with Morri's overall appearance at the moment.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 18 Jun 2013, 11:55
I have to say that I like everyone's portraits.

This is Steff's current portrait:
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93305774_512.jpg)

I used to use lots of black makeup on Katrina all the time, until I got rid of the black lipstick and really enjoyed the results. I think you could consider using lighter makeup on her lips and eyes, and tone down the opacity of her tattoo since it's such a large one. I'm not sure if this is possible with her hairstyle, but I'd also suggest a white or blonde root color instead of black. Consider switching to a more colorful shirt as well, or a lighter color perhaps.

I like how she looks, but the heavy dark and bright contrast seems to get in the way of an otherwise very pretty face.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 18 Jun 2013, 12:00
Morri is in severe need of breast reduction surgery. I know at least one lady with a similar build in reality. She is always complaining of back pain. I think the only reason she hasn't had hers reduced yet is the time & expense involved.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Steffanie Saissore on 18 Jun 2013, 12:03
Morri is in severe need of breast reduction surgery. I know at least one lady with a similar build in reality. She is always complaining of back pain. I think the only reason she hasn't had hers reduced yet is the time & expense involved.


Yeah, like I said, I'm not pleased with how the end result came out (eyes the biomass button)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Steffanie Saissore on 18 Jun 2013, 12:05

I used to use lots of black makeup on Katrina all the time, until I got rid of the black lipstick and really enjoyed the results. I think you could consider using lighter makeup on her lips and eyes, and tone down the opacity of her tattoo since it's such a large one. I'm not sure if this is possible with her hairstyle, but I'd also suggest a white or blonde root color instead of black. Consider switching to a more colorful shirt as well, or a lighter color perhaps.

I like how she looks, but the heavy dark and bright contrast seems to get in the way of an otherwise very pretty face.


Some good points and something that I'll likely take a closer look at especially since the initial concept (gothy party girl) got tossed aside for something quite different
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 12:15
Morri is in severe need of breast reduction surgery. I know at least one lady with a similar build in reality. She is always complaining of back pain. I think the only reason she hasn't had hers reduced yet is the time & expense involved.

I think that's more a function of the angle and the pose that Steff picked for Morri. You can make 'washboard' characters look pretty big using the hands-on-your-hips poses and the right camera angle/lighting. I'd consider changing the pose to start and see where that goes.

Steff definitely could use a lighter shade of lipstick and things than black, imo - I do find it funny that she basically uses the exact same combination as Morwen, just in a different color. It's kinda cute, given ~things~ :D

Eli is pretty much perfect as she is, imo.

Cia Clan:
- Cia: Agreed on the hair. I miss our old Intaki hairstyles. :(
- Camille: Aside from the way the glasses sit on her head (they feel like they're too high over her ears), she's great. Gives the right attitude/age impression.
- Noli: One of the few characters that pulls off the "white" eyes thing really well.
- Noli's ex: This one I find a little creepy. But that's because she looks eerily similar to my ex. :eek:
- Ciabrutor (Gaer Anansi iirc?): How many miles to Chicago is it again? :3
- Jack: I haven't seen Jack around in ages, I'd almost forgotten he existed. The expression feels a little uncanny valley to me but I think that's just the ever-present "cheekbones, more like derpbones" that come out of Carbon.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Steffanie Saissore on 18 Jun 2013, 12:52
I am quite happy with how Elli turned out.  Think I'll play around with Steff's appearance tonight.
When I did take a closer look at Morwen's picture, I had a good laugh seeing how the tattoo and eye makeup were the exact same style.  And this was done before I had even met Morwen.  :D
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shintoko Akahoshi on 18 Jun 2013, 13:16
Re: Morwen's portrait... that eye makeup.  It makes her look like she's been drinking too much for too many consecutive days with only 14 minutes of sleep throughout, isn't even interested in considering stopping, and has actually begun to weep bloody, alcohol-laden tears through her lacrymal glands.

Especially without Morwen's accustomed tattoos. My daughter used to do her eye makeup similarly - she called it "plague eyes".
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 13:31
I'm actually going to put the tattoo back tonight, I think - I wish there was a two-sided version of it though - this particular tattoo only goes on one side or the other.

The eyeshadow is there for RP reasons (IC it's actually supposed to be more like a stylized teardrop), but if I could make the part around her eye fainter and put the focus on the downward point, I would.

Katrina brought up a good point on Steam earlier - Morwen's nose is shaped a little oddly. I happen to have a resculpt so I may fix that sometime soonish.

She doesn't drink as much as Havo suggests, but she's definitely not getting a lot of sleep these days. :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 18 Jun 2013, 13:51
If I may I think if there really is an issue there (not sure), it's not only the nose, but the area above too, leading to the forehead/eyebrows.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Jun 2013, 13:55
There is. Once Katrina pointed it out it became pretty noticeable to me. He likened it to 'too much plastic surgery' or me having messed with it too much while sculpting, which is probably true - though my focus was on the GODDAMN FUCKING CHEEKS BECAUSE CCP STANDS FOR CAN'T CHEEKBONE PROPERLY RAWR RAGE HISS SPIT
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Steffanie Saissore on 18 Jun 2013, 14:04
There is. Once Katrina pointed it out it became pretty noticeable to me. He likened it to 'too much plastic surgery' or me having messed with it too much while sculpting, which is probably true - though my focus was on the GODDAMN FUCKING CHEEKS BECAUSE CCP STANDS FOR CAN'T CHEEKBONE PROPERLY RAWR RAGE HISS SPIT
Oh, good, I'm not the only one who has issues trying to do cheeks and cheekbone structure
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 18 Jun 2013, 14:45
There is. Once Katrina pointed it out it became pretty noticeable to me. He likened it to 'too much plastic surgery' or me having messed with it too much while sculpting, which is probably true - though my focus was on the GODDAMN FUCKING CHEEKS BECAUSE CCP STANDS FOR CAN'T CHEEKBONE PROPERLY RAWR RAGE HISS SPIT
Oh, good, I'm not the only one who has issues trying to do cheeks and cheekbone structure

I'm actually very happy with Kala's cheeks :P One of the bits of her I really like. That and the lighting in this image. It was just the right amount of soft:

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h333/Kalaratiri/132970041-1.jpg)

However, I think the character portrait I made that I like the most was this one:

(http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/h333/Kalaratiri/20110102134821.jpg)

She was made before Carbon was released, on the SiSi engine, so she's not a character I've ever played. Just an experiment. Still, of all the portraits I've made, she sticks with me as one of the most real looking.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 18 Jun 2013, 15:16
I think I'll bite, too.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1257603328_512.jpg)

Done that, I like how Kala looks. I think the ears look a bit weird, but they always do with what CCP gives us, imho. :) I'd consider another lipstick. All in all, I'd give her a 7.5/10 on the subjective ad-hoc Nico's aesthetic judgment scale. - That's for the red-headed one, I think the blonde one is somewhat below 7, maybe 6.4 or so. Not because of the hair color, though.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Makkal on 18 Jun 2013, 18:06
Is there any way we can make these images smaller?

It's difficult to judge a portrait when I have to scroll to see the entire thing.

Right click the image, copy link location. Paste the image hyperlink into a new tab or window. You can choose a selection of sizes for direct links to the EVEGate server, assuming they are hosted there instead of imgur or something. The useful sizes are usually in standard doubles of eight.

64x64
128x128
256x256
512x512
1024x1024
... and some other oddly sized ones that don't fit the pattern, mostly used for the EVE website character icons and such.

https:// image.eveonline.com/ Character/92149662_1024.jpg

That spot right there can be swapped out for smaller numbers. The highest resolution I've seen it go has only been 1024. There may be a larger size but I've yet to learn of it.

Manuel like.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 18 Jun 2013, 19:05
I think 1024x1024 is the maximum size, as the larger sizes seem always to have the double side length of the preceding smaller sizes and there is apparently no 2048x2048er pic.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Steffanie Saissore on 18 Jun 2013, 21:30
Was going to post the new picture of Steff, but the images have updated on their own ;)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 18 Jun 2013, 21:43
Was going to post the new picture of Steff, but the images have updated on their own ;)

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93305774_512.jpg)

Reposted FYP
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Bataav on 19 Jun 2013, 11:38
Why not...

For your delectation I bring you:

My main Bataav

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/545629695_512.jpg)

His uncle (though not yet used for RP in any meaningful sense) Teutonii

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/953002141_512.jpg)

Teutonii runs a small corporation. Two members are actually alts with specific functions.

First we have co-Director Zhushou, who I'd like to begin RPing with but haven't worked out any of the details for her yet. That's for a different thread though.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/90069569_512.jpg)

And Nneka Taron who will be getting a resculpt. While this portrait doesn't show it, from the front she has a jawline that rivals Stitcher.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/90317791_512.jpg)

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 19 Jun 2013, 19:26
/me clears his throat and takes a deep breath...

Spoiler (hover to show)

I was a little annoyed that the same super-dramatic lighting isn't available from the opposite side... I wanted to have the scarred/blinded eye in shadow for subtlety, but had to settle for turning it away from the camera.  Glad to get back the facial piercings the original Havo portrait had, though the same tribal pattern was not among the options.

Not a bad avatar generator, though.  gj CCP.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shintoko Akahoshi on 19 Jun 2013, 22:18
I think I'll bite, too.

Holy crap, I'm sorry! I'll pay the overdue book fine right away!

Seriously, Nicoletta looks like someone you would not want to mess with! At the same time, she's quite beautiful, and strikes me as someone who probably broke a lot of hearts a few years ago. I'm picturing a younger Helen Mirren from Red...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mithfindel on 20 Jun 2013, 00:53
/me clears his throat and takes a deep breath...

Spoiler (hover to show)

I was a little annoyed that the same super-dramatic lighting isn't available from the opposite side... I wanted to have the scarred/blinded eye in shadow for subtlety, but had to settle for turning it away from the camera.  Glad to get back the facial piercings the original Havo portrait had, though the same tribal pattern was not among the options.

Not a bad avatar generator, though.  gj CCP.

I think unless you have a collared shirt, you can do tricks by turning both head and body to pont at the same direction and then rotate the full body. (Collars are derp, because they're anchored on the neck, and neck does not turn if body and head are both turned the same direction.) The result can be seen in my current forum avatar. (I think. Mith wears a collared shirt on that pic, but the shadow is definately on the left side. And I have distinct memory of playing with the character creator like that. Mith's old portrait is in set 18 on http://eveportraits.com/ (http://eveportraits.com/))
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 20 Jun 2013, 01:34
I'm picturing a younger Helen Mirren from Red...
I never thought of that, but having heard it, it's quite on the spot of what I was aiming for!  :cube:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 20 Jun 2013, 14:49
I decided to tweak Arnulf to match his chibi self's hair colour. Otherwise fairly unchanged.

Spoiler (hover to show)

After considering the comments made I fiddled with the image a bit more. Oh and I decided to ditch the shades for now.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vincent Pryce on 20 Jun 2013, 15:43
/me clears his throat and takes a deep breath...

Spoiler (hover to show)

I was a little annoyed that the same super-dramatic lighting isn't available from the opposite side... I wanted to have the scarred/blinded eye in shadow for subtlety, but had to settle for turning it away from the camera.  Glad to get back the facial piercings the original Havo portrait had, though the same tribal pattern was not among the options.

Not a bad avatar generator, though.  gj CCP.

Dat new Havo looks wicked cool.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 20 Jun 2013, 20:11
 :D

Thanks!  Spent way too long fiddling... Debating on adding hair... Dunno.  Mohawk is out of charater for him and all the styles are only so-so.  I miss the double mohawk and ghostly blue-pale skin from before lol
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Repentence Tyrathlion on 21 Jun 2013, 06:08
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1293946477_512.jpg)

New and improved Elysa.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vincent Pryce on 21 Jun 2013, 22:28
New and improved Elysa.

Much better, looks far more like Elysa I had in my head.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kyoko Sakoda on 22 Jun 2013, 01:28
I miss old Kokobear  :(

Awh, sowwy. Here's some other pictures of Kokobear. (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/File:Kokobear_256.jpg) She used to be far wilder than she is now. Currently she is settled, married, and effectively retired. Her current picture reflects that well.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Repentence Tyrathlion on 22 Jun 2013, 03:37
New and improved Elysa.

Much better, looks far more like Elysa I had in my head.

I'm honestly not sure what I was thinking when I made the original carbon version.  ...then again, I'm not sure why I thought myself to be a sane and competent individual back then in general, going over some of the old fitting and skilling stuff ¬¬
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 24 Jun 2013, 11:57
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_512.jpg)

So I'm a redhead now.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 24 Jun 2013, 13:20
Redhead is... weird.  :eek:

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 24 Jun 2013, 13:41
Black hair looks much better on Saede, I think. The red doesn't match with the rest of the picture, and draws attention away from her eyes, which are her most striking feature.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 24 Jun 2013, 13:43
draws attention away from her eyes, which are her most striking feature.

this
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 24 Jun 2013, 13:57
Yeah I tend to prefer the black, but I wanted a change, and this is kinda cool for now.
and redheads have more fun
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 24 Jun 2013, 14:07
and redheads have more fun

We most certainly do.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vincent Pryce on 24 Jun 2013, 14:13
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_512.jpg)

So I'm a redhead now.

Just no on so many levels. Currently your picture looks like someone set your head on fire, and that is not a compliment.

If you wanna work the red you need to work the make up, clothing and background to match. My inner fashionista is pulling it's eyes out right now.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 24 Jun 2013, 14:16
who says our characters have to have a good fashion sense?  8)

Tell you guys what, if you can help me figure out livestreaming, I'll stream my next time playing with the character creator and hang out on voice to get feedback.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Snowflake on 25 Jun 2013, 01:39
My sweet snowflake:

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92969828_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Galen Darksmith on 25 Jun 2013, 02:43
Dem lips.

Has a very pouty/playful look about her.  Pale everything (eyes, hair, skin) combine with black tatt and clothes gives a monochromatic feel.  Bit of a rebel?


This is the first and only one  have of Galen.  I was never able to quite recreate the obvious soldier feel of the old portrait (wish I had it saved), so I just did what I could and never revisited it.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/189741653_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mithfindel on 25 Jun 2013, 02:56
(http://oldportraits.eveonline.com/Character/189741653_256.jpg)

You're welcome. (Clarification: No, I haven't been stalking you all these years. CCP archived all the old portraits. There are services like http://evefaces.com/ (http://evefaces.com/) which help on searching the archive.)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Galen Darksmith on 25 Jun 2013, 05:40
Horry sheet!  You're awesome, Mith!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: caldariprimeponyclub on 18 Jul 2013, 06:57
(http://i.imgur.com/raQuabT.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: caldariprimeponyclub on 18 Jul 2013, 07:06
(http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/serious/serious_face3.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 20 Jul 2013, 03:25
So I finally changed Gwen's portrait (after 6 months or so of the same one) and I was wondering if you guys could offer a bit of feedback on the result? It's mostly the same, but I changed the pose to one that hopefully doesn't totally screw up the hair, and tried to give it a bit more "life" by making her face the camera and giving her a very slightly bigger smile. I wanted to retain the portraitesque quality, however.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 20 Jul 2013, 05:11
I like that one too. Definitely more life yeah. It shows the cute side better too.

However I am not sure that the pose - meaning here, the shoulders pose - is the best one. That shoulder pose is plain weird I think.


NB : what ? Gwen haz piercings !
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 20 Jul 2013, 05:25
I like that one too. Definitely more life yeah. It shows the cute side better too.

However I am not sure that the pose - meaning here, the shoulders pose - is the best one. That shoulder pose is plain weird I think.


NB : what ? Gwen haz piercings !

I like the pose because it looks pretty rigid and uncomfortable, which sort of suits the character, but I'll admit it's not ideal. The problem is, it's the only one that doesn't a) Make it look like she's relaxing or standing assertively, which would be very out of place, or b) Make her long hair stick out in some bizzare angle like the old portrait in a manner that just looks silly. So I'm a bit stumped.

Also, the piercing has always been there! There's a backstory reason for it existing, even.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: AOkazon on 21 Jul 2013, 13:22
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93312758_512.jpg)

sup, boy. Also, I love how awkward Gwen looks so I think you've definitely got what you're going for, there.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shintoko Akahoshi on 22 Jul 2013, 13:45
Nice look. It's pretty uncommon for characters to look good in aviators, but you've pulled it off.

Here's my new alt, Hadi:

(http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/5286/ivfy.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 22 Jul 2013, 13:53
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 22 Jul 2013, 14:01
Nice look. It's pretty uncommon for characters to look good in aviators, but you've pulled it off.

Here's my new alt, Hadi:

Take note that there is a Minmatar Republic symbol on the wall behind him.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shintoko Akahoshi on 22 Jul 2013, 14:46
Nice look. It's pretty uncommon for characters to look good in aviators, but you've pulled it off.

Here's my new alt, Hadi:

Take note that there is a Minmatar Republic symbol on the wall behind him.

Trophy shot. The painters hadn't arrived to cover it up yet.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Sakura Nihil on 22 Jul 2013, 20:31
I wish I had more free time to play on my alts, I still really like Ereka:

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1810576733_512.jpg)

Definitely Civire, but taken with Gallentean culture and history, generally appalled with the behavior of the State.  I suspect she'd be a good example of those Caldari that remained with the Fed after the Caldari-Gallente War.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Shintoko Akahoshi on 22 Jul 2013, 21:33
And still with quite a bit of Caldari culture - the tattoo is pure Caldari, for instance.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 23 Jul 2013, 02:24
While feeling bored, I made what Gwen might have looked like if her father had married an Achur rather then a filthy foreigner.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 23 Jul 2013, 12:28
I really have an almost personal issue with CCP's necks, but that face is awesome.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kazuma Ry on 23 Jul 2013, 15:18
@ Gwen - agree with Lyn, neck is odd (I also blame CCP). Otherwise, just going off the pic, I give her 7/10.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kazuma Ry

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 24 Jul 2013, 00:53
I honestly like that design so much, I almost wish I'd made her that way originally.  :|
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 24 Jul 2013, 06:16
I honestly like that design so much, I almost wish I'd made her that way originally.  :|

Welcome in my universe.

Well at least you can still change it that way for the hair color and "light" cosmetics additions to match it. It's harder when it's a totally different bloodline.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 24 Jul 2013, 07:05
Welcome in my universe.

Well at least you can still change it that way for the hair color and "light" cosmetics additions to match it. It's harder when it's a totally different bloodline.

Well, I mean, I could always just resculpt to make her that way - But at this point, the appearance neither suits the character in terms of personality, or works in accordance to her established backstory. And even if that weren't the case, it'd be hard to justify such a radical change in appearance.

It's alright, though, I'm still more then content. It just really turned out looking way better then I expected.

...Would you want to change Lyns design? I honestly think it's pretty cute and unique - Especially with he ponytail she had a couple days ago.

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 24 Jul 2013, 12:59
Has so much changed between current Gwen and that one ? I mean, I have not noticed a lot of morphological difference... Maybe slightly more perfect but I wasn't honestly sure if it was just the portrait itself or the actual sculpt... I may be wrong of course but I really doubt that people will notice the difference. I'm myself extremely picky about that kind of things - I mean, to a point where it's not good neither for me or my character - and I was not even sure something had changed beyond the pose and the hair color and cosmetics.

Would you have made the resculpt ingame without telling it around I would probably just have thought it was a cosmetic and portrait change, with Gwen dying her hair. Don't forget that other players do not see everything of one's character. They don't spend their time modifying this or that or trying to make another portrait. They do not have the tool and the character under their hands to notice such differences.

I honestly doubt that a lot of people, or anyone for that matter, have noticed the few free resculpts I have done for Lyn over the time (after the first ones just after Incarna and the one when they unlocked lighter skin tones). Have you noticed the last one ? It occurred not even a year ago. People mostly notice heavy changes or just usual haircut/hair color changes, since a single portrait can change literally EVERYTHING. A character can look 100% like another one with a different lighting and pose.

So, if you really do a resculpt, I can assure you that the only thing I might notice is the hair color, and you can do your resculpt without even changing the hair color and nobody will notice, or i'm being really optimistic I don't know...

__________


Also no I don't think I would change Lyn's design, I am mostly happy with the design itself, I just happen to think that other bloodlines are A LOT BETTER suited to it. Just considering the pain I had to go through to make a brutor look like that, and I am still unhappy with traits I can't get rid of, mostly cheekbones.

I have often thought that if I could change her bloodline I would do it gladly, but somehow now having tried other ones I understand now that the current result I have is 10 times better than something done from scratch again (especially portrait/pose wise). I would need another couple of years of work to make them shine, especially for the portrait, which is the most delicate part ever. But these new experiments are still 10 times better than the first Lyns I did after Incarna (not taking Incarna beta into account ofc).

Of course I still am not happy with the result I have, as always. That's why I am always changing haircuts. vOv

She never had a ponytail though ?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 04 Aug 2013, 06:45
I updated Kala's portrait shortly after my glorious return.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/132970041_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: DeadRow on 04 Aug 2013, 16:51
(http://i.imgur.com/8xVGMEL.jpg)

Current deadie pic ^^
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Laurentis Thiesant on 28 Sep 2013, 18:53
Well, deadie, I know we've had conversations about those glasses before (although I've since ditched them) - and I will give you props for making them work without the lighting completely mucking them up (since that was a constant thorn in my side).

Other than that, I'm happy to just say that the whole outfit fits, with each component part of the same theme and thereby you are working it, girl.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93671573_1024.jpg)

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/93716371_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aellos Lisetier on 14 Oct 2013, 12:10
Ok, I'll take the jump, in no small part because Aellos is still flagged for a resculpt and I really want to do... something with him since particularly when walking around he has a really weird look on his face... which irritatingly doesn't show up in the character creator so it's kind of tough to fix

Spoiler (hover to show)

Any suggestions as to what I should do with him will be gratefully received since at this point I'm kind of stuck...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: GoGo Yubari on 27 Oct 2013, 02:50
So, I subbed to look at stuff like a Kim Jong and was happy to see that there was a free re-customization available so I jumped on it, having been pretty unhappy with what I managed last time.

Spoiler (hover to show)

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 27 Oct 2013, 16:13
So, I subbed to look at stuff like a Kim Jong and was happy to see that there was a free re-customization available so I jumped on it, having been pretty unhappy with what I managed last time.

I like the expression, lighting, and use of colors (brown in front, blue behind broken up by the portrait). Looks very young for a capsuleer though. Unfortunate that the neck seems unnaturally long.

Deadrow: love the way the sunglasses are used on that portrait!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: DeadRow on 01 Nov 2013, 04:20
Quote from: Merdaneth link=topic=3639.msg89534#msg89534 date=1382912007
[b
Deadrow[/b]: love the way the sunglasses are used on that portrait!

Thanks :D

TeacherRow won't take any shit from you children! It has recently changed due to my CE coming and getting the torch implant and the swag new top tho ^^
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 02 Nov 2013, 21:34
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1615485476_1024.jpg)

Updated.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mebrithiel on 02 Nov 2013, 23:04
Wow. How did I miss this thread all my life?

Katrina, loving the new portrait. She looks deadset and focussed and very business orientated!

Welp, Meb joined the ranks of toasters, so consider this her falling in line portrait update:

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1382295_10151941589838396_1155632083_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 02 Nov 2013, 23:30
I like it, Mebs! I would change the tats black or green, but that is just me.

This is a possible change I am considering, a new hairstyle and earrings.

(http://i.imgur.com/fMgURdc.png)

Spoiler: Current Portrait (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 03 Nov 2013, 02:31
Nice composition, lighting and all (and no more face burn  :yar:)

The second one makes her look a lot older. Depends what you are looking for...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 03 Nov 2013, 03:37
Yeah I ended up changing it. Kat has a new hairstyle for the first time in over two years!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 03 Nov 2013, 05:07
It might be strange to say it, but Kat's new portrait reminds me a hell of a lot of one of Elsebeth's old looks.

Just more corporate and with less face tattoos.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Drakolus on 22 Nov 2013, 07:16
Hopefully this works.
Spoiler (hover to show)

Totally an important internet spaceship captain :).
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jessa on 22 Nov 2013, 11:06
Disturbing lack of chest hair. Man up. :(

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kentt on 22 Nov 2013, 11:25
Drakolus: The majority of Ammerians always have this older look to them.  Their facial structure always reminds me of Moff Tarkin lol.  Love the detail on the face.  But yea... he needs some hair photo shopped on there :p

Jessa: Looks like she is deep in thought and someone got a picture of her when she didn't notice. The shadowing is nicely done and is simple... and for the first time I noticed hair also gave shadows.  Never realized that until looking at your picture.

Time to throw up some of my alts whom I have been proud of.
Pappeto
Spoiler (hover to show)

Neka
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Drakolus on 22 Nov 2013, 11:40
Disturbing lack of chest hair. Man up. :(

Considering the number of times I clone jump and/or get podded...do I ever really have time for it to grow? :)

Drakolus: The majority of Ammerians always have this older look to them.  Their facial structure always reminds me of Moff Tarkin lol.  Love the detail on the face.  But yea... he needs some hair photo shopped on there :p

I actually tried out a few of the hair options and wow.  I either look like a singer in an emo/screamo band or a hilarious old version of Fabio.  I actually like the lack of hair, again giving that whole "I just cloned jumped here" feeling.

Pappeto - Dayum that's a 5 head, very intense stare.

Neka - Overall I like her, although the shadows do something weird to her left eye

Jessa - Again, overall nice but the shadows combined with the eye shadow makes her right eye look weird to me.




Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kentt on 22 Nov 2013, 11:57
I actually tried out a few of the hair options and wow.  I either look like a singer in an emo/screamo band or a hilarious old version of Fabio.  I actually like the lack of hair, again giving that whole "I just cloned jumped here" feeling.

Pappeto - Dayum that's a 5 head, very intense stare.

Neka - Overall I like her, although the shadows do something weird to her left eye

Thanks!  Yea Pappeto is my wandering Caldari musician.  Neka's my ship support and eyecandy lol.

Nonono! lol.  I was talking about chest hair too.  But your look of a fresh clone explains that I think.  Yep, I like the lack of hair on some characters.  Others I with were able to have long hair like the characters used to be.  Like my avatar hehe
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Drakolus on 22 Nov 2013, 12:35
I have not found the "Manly Chest Hair" options yet but this is Drak with hair...very VERY goofy hair.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Bacchanalian on 25 Jan 2014, 18:03
Slight change from the avatar, did this a while back.  Stimulus colors have always been red/gold, so the AURUM jacket thingy worked perfectly and added a bit more "srs bsns commander" and subtracted a bit of the "anarchist sitting around playing cards in between fleets" look.

Just going to link it, as I cba to shrink it and it's enormous.

https://image.eveonline.com/Character/165044004_1024.jpg

Mishka, my Khanid alt, originally a spy in Providence, went on to spy on some sovbears for a while, eventually joined Stimulus and retired from spy life, currently a flying coffin (Nyx) pilot.

https://image.eveonline.com/Character/804533335_1024.jpg

And Xaiah, the original spy alt, infiltrated Aegis Militia back in the day and helped Stimulus make it's first impression on the EVE universe by tearing them apart from the inside.  Took AM several years to fully recover.  She's now my capital pilot (Moros/Archon/Chimera) as well as a full Caldari pilot and JF pilot.

https://image.eveonline.com/Character/540928754_1024.jpg
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 26 Jan 2014, 04:37
Aegis Militia Corp, not AM as a whole.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Bacchanalian on 26 Jan 2014, 13:49
Aegis Militia Corp, not AM as a whole.

Point taken.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 26 Jan 2014, 14:47
any thoughts on my new portrait? I've had it for a bit now.

https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_1024.jpg (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 26 Jan 2014, 19:29
any thoughts on my new portrait? I've had it for a bit now.

https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_1024.jpg (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_1024.jpg)

I quite like it. Nice contrast and use of complementary color.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 26 Jan 2014, 19:30
Brock Yevikaan's portrait. My goal with this one was for it to be largely uneventful/forgettable.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/94262965_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 31 Jan 2014, 11:43
The lighting is great in that one, Jace. In fact, both of your characters have really nice lighting.


Updated Samira a bit. Made her a tone darker, not sure if I like or not. Wish the game had a more gradual palette instead of the 10 or so choices. Old one was too light, this one might be too dark. Would prefer something in-between. Oh well.

Spoiler (hover to show)

*Edit* And I just realized I forgot to fiddle with the brow like I meant to do. Damnit.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 31 Jan 2014, 14:25
She went to the beach  8)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 10 Feb 2014, 11:04
One of my corp RP characters.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/94369341_1024.jpg)
Clarice Saanke, Magistrate of Internal Committee
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Denak Kalamari on 10 Feb 2014, 14:16
One of my corp RP characters.

-Snipped-
Clarice Saanke, Magistrate of Internal Committee
Looks really neat, the shadows seem to fit the overall picture nicely.

And I guess I'll post my own portrait, critique away!

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hvzrg6vQQpA/UkEnlO80TGI/AAAAAAAAAJI/vnnDVC_joCE/s1600/denak.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 11 Feb 2014, 09:00
Mitty V.6, post CEO of PIE.  Short hair with the arrival of a new child and struggling to become a housewife.  Experimenting with a different look.

Spoiler (hover to show)


Mitty V.7, back to herself mostly, except for the ponytail.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 11 Feb 2014, 10:17
Regarding the second portrait

:SeductiveMitt:

Altogether fits really well, only downmark from me is for the hair. Not the color, just how the engine renders it, like straight bits with corners.

Denak: Like the lighting in that one, vnice. The beard/shavedhawk combo in particular suits the character. Would bang.

Not sure if I updated N'maro since the thread began, but here goes.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/90677521_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 11 Feb 2014, 10:32
N'Maro, I totally get a Edward James Olmos vibe from that pic. I like it.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 11 Feb 2014, 12:59
So many awesome portraits!

Can't say that I'm even a forth as good as most of you guys about putting together anything really striking or memorable, but here is Simon for your viewing pleasure anyway! I've actually changed the tattoo to the smaller 'bar code' version on his cheek but for whatever reason its taking forever to register the change.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92765465_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Streya on 11 Feb 2014, 13:46
Simon looks like an older veteran who's seen some things. I'm really digging the cybernetic eye! 8/10, if only because it looks like the beard hair color doesn't match the head hair color.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Drakolus on 11 Feb 2014, 19:47
Streya, I can't help it.  The first vibe I got was "oh man, I'm so high right now...so high and smug."  :)

Interesting coloration though :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 11 Feb 2014, 20:00
Streya, I can't help it.  The first vibe I got was "oh man, I'm so high right now...so high and smug."  :)

You're not the only one.

Though I tend to get that from most Vheros these days. The way the eyes are designed tends to that.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Streya on 11 Feb 2014, 21:43
Yeah, I get that a lot  :lol: It is a thing a lot of Vhero characters exhibit. Something else I've noticed is a tendency towards having a "lazy eye". I think it might be a character model bug on Vherokior, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 11 Feb 2014, 21:53
Yeah, I get that a lot  :lol: It is a thing a lot of Vhero characters exhibit. Something else I've noticed is a tendency towards having a "lazy eye". I think it might be a character model bug on Vherokior, but I'm not sure.

Much in the same way, Deteis males are typically far more crosseyed than other characters.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 12 Feb 2014, 08:15
Yeah, I get that a lot  :lol: It is a thing a lot of Vhero characters exhibit. Something else I've noticed is a tendency towards having a "lazy eye". I think it might be a character model bug on Vherokior, but I'm not sure.

Much in the same way, Deteis males are typically far more crosseyed than other characters.

When you have a Civire chin bearing down on you at 0.2c, going crosseyed is the least of your worries.

Been meaning to tweak some of my portraits but time has been sorely lacking for me of late. :(
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 12 Feb 2014, 08:23
Yeah, I get that a lot  :lol: It is a thing a lot of Vhero characters exhibit. Something else I've noticed is a tendency towards having a "lazy eye". I think it might be a character model bug on Vherokior, but I'm not sure.

Much in the same way, Deteis males are typically far more crosseyed than other characters.

When you have a Civire chin bearing down on you at 0.2c, going crosseyed is the least of your worries.

Been meaning to tweak some of my portraits but time has been sorely lacking for me of late. :(

It's hard to describe how angry I've gotten in the past over the cross eyed thing. It completely rules out certain styles of portraits I've wanted to do. In order to compensate, male Deteis either have to be in heavy shadows or almost full-profile shot.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 12 Feb 2014, 08:34
Speaking of male Deteis, I just realized I've never posted Jace's here. Due to the previous cross-eyed problem mentioned, I had to make a shadow completely block out one eye.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92656795_1024.jpg)

Then, I went and put the eye back in later for blog/website/avatars.

(http://i.imgur.com/tTMb2Dm.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Simon Louvaki on 12 Feb 2014, 08:42
Jace's portrait makes think of Sansha Kuvakei.

(http://pod-express.de/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/sancha.png)

That being said, I think he's my favorite so far. He looks cold, and the way eye seems to almost glow...*shivers*
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 12 Feb 2014, 08:45
He's the only character I never change his portrait anymore, due to the reception I've gotten for it. And it does really portray him well.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 12 Feb 2014, 12:21
i will tuch his butte
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 18 Feb 2014, 22:23
My Feddie:

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/94037014_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jurou on 25 Mar 2014, 07:40
Oh do me, do me!

I do like the above fed. Actually looks like a realistic face which is hard to nail.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1557809123_1024.jpg#_ga=1.118315849.1976137652.1382014768)


I never asked for this
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 25 Mar 2014, 07:47
All sorts of grumpy, Jurou.

Also, I love direct linking these to Eve Gate. Then when the portraits are changed, they change here, too.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: genofunk on 25 Mar 2014, 09:09
Jurou looks freakin' awesome. Maybe a less formal outfit would suit him better though, for a more 'bad-ass' look.

So what about me? Too plain? Realistic? Too snobby?

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91574428_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 25 Mar 2014, 09:11
She looks dead inside. So it works.  :P
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Bayushi Tamago on 25 Mar 2014, 14:44
I both love and hate the CC.
Well, mostly hate as it destroyed my first character's attitude/style completely.
Still amused how Bay turned out while I was bitching on the forums about how bad it was, removing a lot of character from the game in the name of realism - One of my corpmates at the time who loved it had nothing but problems. It was deliciously hilarious.
Lots of people seem to say Bay is hot etc, had people try to get me to enter her in a beauty contest or something back in incrapna.
Also, I can not for the life of me remember how to replicate her lip colour :(
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1373720296_512.jpg)
As far as other people's portraits go, it's hard to get one that looks bad now.
Anya looks bored as hell though. :(
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 25 Mar 2014, 15:30
As far as other people's portraits go, it's hard to get one that looks bad now.
Anya looks bored as hell though. :(

I'd have to disagree with that. Spend five minutes on NewEdenFaces. Dear god.

But I like yours, hair is the perfect color for the surrounding shades.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Bayushi Tamago on 25 Mar 2014, 15:41
As far as other people's portraits go, it's hard to get one that looks bad now.
Anya looks bored as hell though. :(

I'd have to disagree with that. Spend five minutes on NewEdenFaces. Dear god.

But I like yours, hair is the perfect color for the surrounding shades.

I am disturbingly good at making things pretty and functional despite not being a girly girl, but purely utilitarian RL
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 25 Mar 2014, 17:08
She looks dead inside. So it works.  :P
I dunno... there's something about the eyes.  She looks pretty hateful, to me.

Which also works :D
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: genofunk on 25 Mar 2014, 21:16
She looks dead inside. So it works.  :P
I dunno... there's something about the eyes.  She looks pretty hateful, to me.

Which also works :D

Dead inside, hateful, dilated pupils. She is obviously high on mindflood!

Bayushi, nice color scheme. She looks poisonous.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: V. Gesakaarin on 16 May 2014, 03:37
Spoiler (hover to show)

I recently asked myself: What would the quintessential Veikitamo look like?

That is when I realized it's probably some cross between Malory Archer from the show Archer and a Trollface.

Basically, a portrait that properly conveys that sense of, "Why are you so mad?" With a glass of Campari and vodka in hand.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 17 May 2014, 11:07
Spoiler (hover to show)

I recently asked myself: What would the quintessential Veikitamo look like?

That is when I realized it's probably some cross between Malory Archer from the show Archer and a Trollface.

Basically, a portrait that properly conveys that sense of, "Why are you so mad?" With a glass of Campari and vodka in hand.

(http://24.media.tumblr.com/6a1b9133eb8175059a17f03698bbe5ba/tumblr_mpr65gY6sY1r7jx1ro1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Dessau on 20 May 2014, 11:03
Spoiler (hover to show)

Now this is the face of leadership that a filthy jaiijin could really get behind.

Wait...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: V. Gesakaarin on 20 May 2014, 17:30
Now this is the face of leadership that a filthy jaiijin could really get behind.

Wait...

In Soviet Caldari State, Veikitamo leads you from behind.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aldrith Shutaq on 05 Jun 2014, 12:34
Spoiler (hover to show)

Aldy's not so broody anymore. Time to be rediculously handsome again.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 05 Jun 2014, 12:55
I wish they add a fan of some kind in the portrait generator, so that the hair would flow like it should.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 08 Jun 2014, 18:24
so here is my current portrait. Finally got that black coat.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 08 Jun 2014, 19:46
It kinda looks like carbon fiber weave.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: PracticalTechnicality on 09 Jun 2014, 02:34
BEHOLD! My glorious... SYNTHETIC ARMS!

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/839828428_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 09 Jun 2014, 04:24
In before Unrighteous©Synthia
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 21 Jul 2014, 00:09
Spoiler (hover to show)

Aldy's not so broody anymore. Time to be rediculously handsome again.
Aldy not broody and looking too handsome...  Mitty coming out of retirement should fix that right quick...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 21 Jul 2014, 05:08
How could any man be anything but fabulous with a woman like that towering over him and keeping him in line?!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 21 Jul 2014, 06:45
I definitely forgot to put a portrait of prettyboy Charles up on here.

Spoiler (hover to show)

Definitely old at this point, and I'll probably change.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Odelya on 27 Jul 2014, 14:22
Spoiler (hover to show)

The official portrait fresh from the Ducal Palace of Palas.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 27 Jul 2014, 15:42
 8)

Now getting through the whole thread again and... Weird feeling. Also want the new clothes.  :evil:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ayallah on 27 Jul 2014, 17:51
post
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 28 Jul 2014, 01:15
post
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Aya once again being total babe mode

Also, updated my portrait after several weeks of having the same old boring one.
Spoiler (hover to show)
Changed his hair as well.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 12 Aug 2014, 16:43
Mitty sporting some new threads... Aldy is too good looking, so she's trying desperately to make herself presentable!
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 12 Aug 2014, 18:02
Unfortunately, she chose the most boring color combination possible--double black. ;)

Have to say I preferred your old outfit more, Mitty. Sorry! :(


Also, Charles, you continue to be quite hot in all your appearances, despite that ugly scar. <3

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 12 Aug 2014, 20:09
I have to say, the outfit suits. On a second look, maybe change the background, the black is a bit of a clash, but again, fits like a glove for Mitt.

Serious'maro inbound:

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/90677521_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 12 Aug 2014, 20:58
Unfortunately, she chose the most boring color combination possible--double black. ;)

Exactly :)  This is Mitty we are talking about!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lunarisse Aspenstar on 01 Sep 2014, 22:43
Luna with new Avatar clothing.

(http://i.imgur.com/TDoNdSp.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 01 Sep 2014, 23:29
Luna 8/10

Would 9/10 if I knew what her expression is supposed to be. Is she relieved, happy, tired of everyone's shit? Were you going for a catch all expression?
Would 10/10 also but background and lighting conflict with hair spikes.

Anyanka

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91574428_256.jpg)

Got rid of all tats and piercings, added glasses. They should have a reason for these glasses by the way. Are they supposed to be augmented reality glasses,  clear sunglasses, reading glasses?

Not liking Anya's arm flab, I think she needs to cut down on the red meat!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nicoletta Mithra on 02 Sep 2014, 04:02
Arm flab? She's quite skinny. Still, (8/10).

Also, Luna's expression is an Amarrian smile, obviously. ^_^

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Karynn on 03 Sep 2014, 01:24
I really like Jace and Jurou's; great lighting, pose and expression.
I like Anyanka's pose too.

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 14 Sep 2014, 18:11
(http://i.imgur.com/ULEegzZ.gif)

yaaay!

also kat has new portrait and outfit.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 14 Sep 2014, 21:15
I love hate to attention whore, but Charles (as you may have seen already) has a dashing new portrait. Why he hasn't won Mister Universe yet is beyond me.

Warning: Pic attached may be too attractive for your personal health.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 14 Sep 2014, 21:25
New Jace portrait. Not particularly fond of it, so it will probably change again soon.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92656795_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 14 Sep 2014, 21:30
Why he hasn't won Mister Universe yet is beyond me.
Sharing a page with Karynn's portrait will put a pretty big wrench in the gearbox that contains your hopes and dreams, CC.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 14 Sep 2014, 22:59
Why he hasn't won Mister Universe yet is beyond me.
Sharing a page with Karynn's portrait will put a pretty big wrench in the gearbox that contains your hopes and dreams, CC.

Unless I have eye issues, she doesn't look too much like she could run in a Mister Universe competition. Y'know, being a she. Not a he.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 16 Sep 2014, 23:38
I've always loved yours, Karynn. Don't change the lipstick, it works great on her!

Jace, new one is very slick. I like it. I don't know the character enough to know if it fits him but as a portrait at least it looks great.

And Charles could definitely win Mister Universe.


Here's Sami's current:

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 17 Sep 2014, 07:39
The new new one that showed up I like and will probably keep. My reference about not liking my current one was to the one before this. (if you direct link, your picture in this thread will update as EVE updates your profile)

And nice, Sami. Did a good job capturing a mood/feeling with that one.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 17 Sep 2014, 11:38
Here's Sami's current:

Spoiler (hover to show)

Her facial structure and short hair makes her, for some reason, cute as a damn button. Oh, and the portrait is really nice too; it's centered on the Amarr symbol which adds some really nice focus to her face. Iirc Ayallah has been trying to ICly model herself off Sami for a long time too, which is further testament to your good-portraititude (???).


And Charles could definitely win Mister Universe.

Heh heh heh.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 17 Sep 2014, 16:18
Here's Karynn; sometimes I think the red lipstick isn't very Thukker-like, but then again she's the public face of the caravan and is conscious of trying to look her best, plus the red and black compliments the clan's colours.
Spoiler (hover to show)

This is one of my favorite portraits ever.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 24 Sep 2014, 14:36
A warmer and more inviting look.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1615485476_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ché Biko on 24 Sep 2014, 16:44
A warmer and more inviting look.
That may be, but for some reason I get this "I am going to eat you alive, but you will not like it." vibe. A vibe I have not felt since...
Syn Callibri thought I had indecent plans with her wife.
/me shudders
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 24 Sep 2014, 17:18
Changed it again. Very happy with it this time, hopefully I will keep it. If I change anything it will probably just be zoom/cropping.

(http://i.imgur.com/deGXjUk.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 24 Sep 2014, 20:19
A warmer and more inviting look.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1615485476_1024.jpg)

Amarr Kat = Best Kat
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Korsavius on 24 Sep 2014, 22:14
Nooo Kat I liked the other one better!! :c

The darker style. The look of...something in her gaze. That something could be anything...hate, anger, vengeance, or maybe even a bit of sadness. You don't know her next move, but do you really want to? Mmm, I miss DarkKat. But I suppose AmarrKat is fine too.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Karynn on 25 Sep 2014, 01:20
I really like Kat's new one!

Great lighting around the eyes, and the background really brings out and compliments the blue in them.
Expression is serious, but yeah, inviting too!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 25 Sep 2014, 01:40
Kat's gone Amarrian! KEEL!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 27 Sep 2014, 06:03
That suit is amarrian ? I thought it was a Minmatar one, with the metal  goldpin that looks like a talon commander insigna or something...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 27 Sep 2014, 06:44
Don't be silly. Minmatar only wear furs and carry clubs and stuff.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 27 Sep 2014, 12:29
dude -_-
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 27 Sep 2014, 16:51
Don't be silly. Minmatar only wear furs and carry clubs and stuff.

/me plastic headdresses into the night!

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/132970041_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 28 Sep 2014, 02:35
Spoiler (hover to show)

Higher res:

(https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1385/72/1385720047422.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 28 Sep 2014, 04:57
Get out. :l
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 28 Sep 2014, 05:30
Mizmizmiz
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 28 Sep 2014, 06:00
wat

Edit: Might as well get mine up here.

Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 28 Sep 2014, 08:08
You need to make a sebbie portrait like your current forum avatar
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 28 Sep 2014, 08:10
Some timing, edited my post as you posted. I've actually been considering getting an artist friend of mine to "fix" the forum avatar with the profile pic's tats, albeit with some changes.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 28 Sep 2014, 08:30
The artist of that painting also does commissions, by the way.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 01 Oct 2014, 10:16
No "r8 8/8 no h8 m8" at my avatar? Aww. You people are poopie heads.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 08 Oct 2014, 18:50
Teh new new Jace Sarice.

(http://i.imgur.com/pfgL8cE.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Havohej on 09 Oct 2014, 03:26
And the new Havohej.
Spoiler (hover to show)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 09 Oct 2014, 03:37
"Grr, I'm going to kill those med techs for making me cock-eyed. This jacket is totally sexy though. Maybe a little broody grim smile will seduce that little minx Ava. Or was it Kyllsa? Or Sami? Doesn't matter, got sexy jacket. What was I thinking about? Grrr, cockeyed."

/me flees........ \o\
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 10 Oct 2014, 03:19
I like Havo, he is not leaning too much on the overt exaggeration we see in a lot of portraits that make them look all but natural, just trying too hard. What I like the most in characters portraits are usually when they just try to be natural, like a cool photo you could have taken of someone, not the "look at me i'm so awesome and dark and brooding with mah face in the shadows grrr".

Well anyway, I like Havo because under his eye patch and scars, he just looks normal with a cool attitude, almost friendly, but you don't really know that for sure. I thin it translates the character well.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 10 Oct 2014, 20:53
Singularity Anya:

(http://i.gyazo.com/dbe1e5fae1b2e2d4d301f03ea629f759.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Stutzer on 10 Oct 2014, 22:06
---^

I feel like I want a Joshua Gabriel Timbrook illustration of this character.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: The Scythian on 11 Oct 2014, 00:27
Singularity Anya:

(http://i.gyazo.com/dbe1e5fae1b2e2d4d301f03ea629f759.png)

Reminds me a bit of Feyd's (https://gate.eveonline.com//Profile/Feyd%20Rautha%20Harkonnen) iconic pose.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 11 Oct 2014, 08:22
Quote
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/132970041_1024.jpg)


She is supposed to be looking faintly amused. I am bad at facial expressions. Whooo, soft lighting  :D
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 11 Oct 2014, 09:01
Kinan's new portrait. I like it very much. For some reason I've always been able to be happier with his portraits than any of my other characters. I think he's only had three different ones in the five years he's been around.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1219577694_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 11 Oct 2014, 09:23
---^

I feel like I want a Joshua Gabriel Timbrook illustration of this character.

I want a Jhonen Vasquez illustration of this character!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Saede Riordan on 11 Oct 2014, 11:10
So the orange hair continues...

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92149662_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 11 Oct 2014, 11:15
So the orange hair continues...


One of the best avatars in eve imo. Even with orange hair, nothing about her seems out of place.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 11 Oct 2014, 11:55
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I actually went and immediately showed this to Alabath because I was stunned by how excellent it is. The shadow-play is outstanding, it's simple yet complicated. The plain blue background really helps. For real, man.

Dang.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 11 Oct 2014, 12:12
As always, I can't decide on my Jace avatar. Blarg.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92656795_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 22 Oct 2014, 09:14
Direct link above updated again. I hope this is my last portrait change, I think it might be giving off the impression I am aiming for.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 22 Oct 2014, 09:41
Direct link above updated again. I hope this is my last portrait change, I think it might be giving off the impression I am aiming for.

(https://i.imgur.com/aNjG8.png)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 22 Oct 2014, 09:57
Yes, that is exactly what I am going for. Creepy car salesman just around the corner.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 22 Oct 2014, 11:19
Why don't you take a seat over there... (and look up Chris Hansen)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 22 Oct 2014, 11:25
A quick Google brought up 'television journalist' and I then lost interest.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 04 Nov 2014, 15:45
All of my accounts had to be canceled except for one due to financial reasons. I picked Cuci's.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/94037014_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 04 Nov 2014, 16:25
Would bang.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Valadeus on 06 Nov 2014, 17:30
Gallente, on the left...not sure how I did.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lunarisse Aspenstar on 07 Nov 2014, 11:34
give the appearance of an earnest, intelligent handsome bearded fellow. 

+9 oocly.  A bit more expression is my only nit.

+10 from Luna icly who is still interrogating Gallente fellows on the channels trying to figure out who she danced with at the Masqued Ball
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 07 Nov 2014, 12:12
Gallente, on the left...not sure how I did.

Very Gallente. Pity about the glued on beard is all.
(Everyone knows Gallente don't have enough MALE attributes to grow their own)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Dessau on 07 Nov 2014, 13:54
(Everyone knows Gallente don't have enough MALE attributes to grow their own)

"What the Maker gave us in chin was taken in chode," or so a Civire pleasure gal once told me.

 :P
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 09 Nov 2014, 21:02
As always, I can't decide on my Jace avatar. Blarg.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92656795_512.jpg)

Is Jace a toaster now?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 13 Nov 2014, 22:05
(https://image.eveonline.com/character/91574428_512.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 13 Nov 2014, 22:37
That one looks very nice.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 14 Nov 2014, 18:17
No, Jace is not a toaster. I was getting screenshots before I sold the jacket. If anyone mentions it ICly he lost a bet.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 03 Dec 2014, 09:03
Mit - "Experiments into vanity are over. Back to Divine purpose."

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 03 Dec 2014, 09:04
Divine purpose Mitty > Vanity Mitty. More color!


And since I've changed it recently, here's Sami's updated one:

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 03 Dec 2014, 09:16
Divine purpose Mitty > Vanity Mitty. More color!


And since I've changed it recently, here's Sami's updated one:

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Sami's portraits have gotten progressively more confident imho, reflecting the growth of the character.  <3 Sami!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Nmaro Makari on 07 Dec 2014, 14:53
Something something shady'maro

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Karynn on 10 Dec 2014, 15:07
Updated with sexeh new outfit...

(http://i.imgur.com/lMh5Icg.jpg)

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 10 Dec 2014, 15:17
ok, hottest matari chick just got hotter.  purrrrrrr
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kyoko Sakoda on 10 Dec 2014, 16:22
Not sure if EVE or The Matrix Reloaded.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 10 Dec 2014, 22:22
ok, hottest matari chick just got hotter.  purrrrrrr
Not just empty quoting.

(we need a :drool: emoticon just for this thread)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 10 Dec 2014, 23:22
(http://i.imgur.com/MZtfhkm.jpg)

Kala does not smile  :D
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 11 Dec 2014, 00:58
I'm an extremely neurotic person when it comes to change, and so haven't messed with my character portrait much in any major ways beyond just shifting her around without changing pose/expression a little in over a year. I'm finally getting sick to death of it now, though, and have sorta decided on a change, but I don't want to commit and lose something I'm vaguely happy with if I end up hating it later. So what do you guys think of something like this?

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 11 Dec 2014, 06:21
I have always loved Gwen face.

There are a few things that seem to jump at me first on this pic :

- I preferred her old expression, this one is more difficult to 'grasp' at first. It's less vivid.
- The shadow eats her right cheek and tends to spoil the curves of her face.
- CCP's necks /o\ Have you tried to rotate the body a bit not to twist the neck so much ? Here you seem to have very different orientations between the body, the neck and the head, and not only horizontally, but vertically as well. Also, from past experience I have never been happy with CCP's elongated necks myself so I always tried to hide them with a jacket collar (which might explain why the necks are so long btw, to accomodate collars). Well maybe it's transhuman necks and all, but still.
- She is on the border of the frame, half in, half out. I do not find it very natural, what would it look like if she was at the center ? Does it ruin the pose ?

Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 11 Dec 2014, 07:15
Oh god! I totally missed the thing with the neck. I had to turn her body and head around quite a bit in order to catch the right lighting for the image, but even though they're still in alignment, I guess the shirt is "pinned" to one spot the neck in such a way that it can't move freely within it without streching it out. That is kind of ugly looking.

I made the expression more melancholic mostly just to fit with her advances as a character, but I'm surprised to hear you think it's less vivid. The original was really slight, too, just towards being a smile rather than a frown. And the reason I put her on the far end of the portrait rather than the center was to sort of convey the sense of her looking outward, which is also why she's on the right side, away from most of the features of the background, as well as give a sense of general smallness. Does that not work?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 11 Dec 2014, 07:38
Actually you are right, I spoke mostly from what I remember and I seem to have remembered wrong. I just went to see the old one again and the new expression is definitely more present.

For the head position, I am not sure that you can render a sense of smallness when you have no reference like the body size or anything else for the eye to compare to. But tbh considering how frail her shoulders and her upper body already look, I think I already got that sense from the beginning, the portrait being on the far end of the frame or not. You can even change the pose (out of the 6-7 ones available) and make the shoulders drop, maybe it can make the body look even thinner.

I don't think the non centered portrait doesn't work though, to the contrary, and I seem to see what you are doing actually. I had a similar portrait early (3/4 face though) entering the frame at the right and looking at the left. No, the more I look at it, the more I find it convincing actually.

Maybe I got all those impressions wrong just because we don't really know what is happening with the shoulders and the arms, it's confusing..


Edit : after 2 hours meditating over it now, I can definitely say it's a good portrait ! The only thing that still annoys me is the shadow eating the right cheek and the upper body pose.  :)

Edit 2 : I don't know if it's just me but does she have an eye always a little more closed than the other one ? It was already the case in your other portraits, and definitely keep that ! It adds a lot.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 16 Dec 2014, 10:12
I'm an extremely neurotic person when it comes to change, and so haven't messed with my character portrait much in any major ways beyond just shifting her around without changing pose/expression a little in over a year. I'm finally getting sick to death of it now, though, and have sorta decided on a change, but I don't want to commit and lose something I'm vaguely happy with if I end up hating it later. So what do you guys think of something like this?

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I haven't really RP'd much with Gwen lately, but I remember when she first arrived in The Summit, so naive and timid :)   
I have always thought you captured that with your portraits, hopefully that's what you were going for otherwise I'll  :psyccp:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 22 Dec 2014, 08:07
I eventually ended up picking something different after a few tests. I'm not sure if I actually like it or not? Or if it looks weird.

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And yeah, Lyn, the Achur models have a weird glitch where the eyes will break a tiny bit out of where they're supposed to be in the model if you point them in certain directions, creating a sort of weird reflective effect. I did it on purpose originally because it made it look like her eyes were slightly watering - Though some people have said it looks bad, so I might get rid of it.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Karynn on 22 Dec 2014, 09:20
I eventually ended up picking something different after a few tests. I'm not sure if I actually like it or not? Or if it looks weird.

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And yeah, Lyn, the Achur models have a weird glitch where the eyes will break a tiny bit out of where they're supposed to be in the model if you point them in certain directions, creating a sort of weird reflective effect. I did it on purpose originally because it made it look like her eyes were slightly watering - Though some people have said it looks bad, so I might get rid of it.

It's a great portrait!

The plain hair-colour, lack of make-up and the comfortable shoulder angle / head / eye direction all strike me as very natural looking.

I had to go to Gwen's character sheet to check her age, because here she looks incredibly young! I'd say 16-18. But that's not a problem, with apparent clone-age being distinct from actual age.

I'm not usually a fan of that particular background, but it does justice to her look. One of the faction backgrounds or grimy interior ones would be well out of place.

Nice work!  :D
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 22 Dec 2014, 14:05
I eventually ended up picking something different after a few tests. I'm not sure if I actually like it or not? Or if it looks weird.

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And yeah, Lyn, the Achur models have a weird glitch where the eyes will break a tiny bit out of where they're supposed to be in the model if you point them in certain directions, creating a sort of weird reflective effect. I did it on purpose originally because it made it look like her eyes were slightly watering - Though some people have said it looks bad, so I might get rid of it.

Best Gwen portrait, on par with the 100% Achur one posted months ago somewhere above  8)

And No! Keep the little discrepancies with the eyes, it's one of its best features actually ! It makes her look more real. And it adds a little something extra that makes her unique.


I seem to remember that you did not seem to like floating hair (everything with CCP avatars seem to be designed purely for a layer of jacket it seems... necks, long hair...), and she looks like in underwear or very light clothes ?  :P
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 23 Dec 2014, 03:12
Yeah, the hair is really annoying! I wish this game had more/better long styles. At least it doesn't look too awkward here.

I refuse to wear jackets with Gwen, but I might change the shirt, since everyone seem to think she's naked with it. Even though it's only a tanktop.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 23 Dec 2014, 03:29
Well this haircut suits her well anyhow.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Tamiroth on 26 Dec 2014, 11:31
Gwen, Karynn and Samira are my favorites! Gwen - because of her youthful naivety (which now seems to turn into sadeness), Karynn - because of being criminally sexy, and Samira - for that calm and stoic look of an Amarr martyr in training.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ché Biko on 26 Dec 2014, 13:08
Hmm, nice, and pretty unique as far as I'm aware. I love the shadowplay.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 13 Jan 2015, 12:49
(https://image.eveonline.com/character/91574428_512.jpg)

More realistic.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ché Biko on 13 Jan 2015, 14:46
I like the lighting in this one too: the eyes, the soft and hard (piercing!) shadows above her breasts, the left arm reflecting light from the side.
I also like the mixture of expressions on her face. Reminds me a bit of Aria's pre-incarna portrait. Nicely done.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gesakaarin on 31 Jan 2015, 19:50
After spending some time playing with the portraits of the Gesakaarin I think I've finally managed to make them in a way that reflects how I view them as characters in my head:

Hevaima: The quiet professional. Well-groomed, remarkably polite, and even when he takes off his suit there is just another suit underneath. He also has a goatee, so you know he's not evil.

(http://i.imgur.com/Ar7KS6I.jpg?1)

Veikitamo: The cold killer. The sadist. A calm exterior borne of the willful restraint of her desire to stick a knife in another's liver or a violin E-string garotte around someone's throat.

(http://i.imgur.com/5axL6Lb.jpg?1)

Vairuken: Calm and laconic in nature. The type of man who remains reserved with his glass and bottle of whiskey in the corner wall of a bar happy with his own company.

(http://i.imgur.com/YEmgKj8.jpg?1)

Karaitamo: The joker. Mischevious and intelligent. Possessed of a dry wit born of a cynical amusement.

(http://i.imgur.com/vdKoLFL.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 31 Jan 2015, 20:08
New one after coming back, updated. Eventually settled for long hair because it works best for portraits. Not totally happy with shadow artifacts but that's what you get often with that hairstyle.

(http://image.eveonline.com/Character/738725366_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 31 Jan 2015, 22:20
Lyn still has the butan-nose, so 10/10 would pres again. :cube:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Velarra on 01 Feb 2015, 10:49
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h3r7Qj0K4eU/VM5UxvYK2BI/AAAAAAAABJE/MbafycPYc6k/w738-h846-no/AngelVel.png)

Critically, it's a little soft due to gentle Gaussian application in order to counter Eve's jagged hair. Equally it's not strictly a portrait in the eve portrait-capture render sense.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aelisha on 04 Feb 2015, 14:24
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/839828428_1024.jpg)

Aelisha Montenagre in her Providence meet and greet apparel. 
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mister Screwball on 04 Feb 2015, 16:34
(http://i.imgur.com/VMCKN5r.jpg)

Katmin in all her glory cause why not
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Samira Kernher on 04 Feb 2015, 18:17
Veik: I like the mood in your portraits, though I feel Veik and Karaitamo are a bit too similar.
Lyn: Good portrait, the eyes are rather striking. :)
Velarra: I like the pose and expression there, though it looks like you had low resolution graphics set which reduces the quality of the picture.
Aelisha: I know you're trying the 'gold' look, but blonde really doesn't go with dark skin. :)
Jastrina: It's like Kat, but more soulless. The stronger eyeshadow really brings attention to the eyes.


And here's a slight update to Sami's. Vince helped me come up with a way to have a better stressed/addict look to Sami's appearance. Is hard with the options we have available in-game, but I think it comes across decently now. :)

I've also made a few other changes recently, including freckles 1 to give a less airbrushed appearance to her.

(https://image.eveonline.com/character/92903168_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jennifer Starfall on 05 Feb 2015, 13:32
I'd like to have more of a facial expression, but I suck at the facial manipulation UI. Suggestions are always welcome.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1797335690_1024.jpg)

My alt, Sarangerel Mishi, on the other hand, I managed to evoke a bit more of a look with.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/95149931_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 05 Feb 2015, 15:54
@Jennifer : the key is to break the symmetry. Slightly close an eye more than the other, move a bit more one side of the mouth, that kind of things. If you do it too visibly it will just change the expression altogether (which can also be good). If you do it with enough subtlety it will theorically not strike you at first, but that's what makes humans human, and not on the verge of uncanny. Don't hesitate to use the rotation tool for the head too, making it tilt more or less. I find that it often unblocks a suck up expression. 

Although I could try to give more advice if I know what pose/expression you are trying to achieve.

Lyn: Good portrait, the eyes are rather striking. :)

Same for Sami. Eyes between wet and dim, fits the addict. :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 25 Mar 2015, 21:47
Updated Naoko's portrait for the first time in however many years since Incursion and its Incarnatars hit Tranquility.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1738071693_1024.jpg)

Old one for reference, is here (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CA_iBelUQAAYCdV.jpg:large).
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 25 Mar 2015, 22:56
(https://image.eveonline.com/character/707219551_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aldrith Shutaq on 26 Mar 2015, 00:00
Poor Aria. Trying to not get sucked into the black abyss after being chucked out of it by someone already lost in its tide...

Nothing left but to show her New Eden and make sure she sinks back down into it!

Have you accepted Amarr as your one true savior?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kybernetes on 26 Mar 2015, 04:34
After reappearing and ending up with the Sansha's Nation Outlaw doodads, I figured I'd change Kyber's portrait for the first time since Carbon. Not entirely happy with it, but how much of that is genuine fault and how much just neurosis I'm uncertain.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1412804221_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 03 Apr 2015, 23:05
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I like it. I feel like it could use some stronger shadows if it's so up front. Angular vectors really help create good looking lines for portraits, and if you angled his sharp face away (I usually pick down and to the side), then I feel like you could make it even better.

Also welcome.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 09 Apr 2015, 01:02
Decided to change her nose a little and pull the eyes back a little to make her face have a bit more depth and look a tiny bit more mature, but lost the eye effect I kinda liked in the process. Not sure if it's good or not. Might change it back.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Merdaneth on 12 Apr 2015, 02:45
Decided to change her nose a little and pull the eyes back a little to make her face have a bit more depth and look a tiny bit more mature, but lost the eye effect I kinda liked in the process. Not sure if it's good or not. Might change it back.

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I agree, I liked the previous eyes a more. These eyes are just a bit too uncanny valley.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 12 Apr 2015, 12:34
Needs makeup. Not because she "needs makeup", but because the skintones do not include any sort of realistic color shading without it. The skin around the eyelids is much thinner than elsewhere and tends to show blood vessels and other color variations naturally, even with "perfect skin" of clones. CCP's shaders dont include any of that, so it's the same even skintone all over, like she's wearing foundation everywhere or something.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Stutzer on 12 Apr 2015, 13:11
Needs makeup. Not because she "needs makeup", but because the skintones do not include any sort of realistic color shading without it. The skin around the eyelids is much thinner than elsewhere and tends to show blood vessels and other color variations naturally, even with "perfect skin" of clones. CCP's shaders dont include any of that, so it's the same even skintone all over, like she's wearing foundation everywhere or something.

To me it's just the eyes that seem that way, but I know nothing of cosmetics.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 12 Apr 2015, 21:23
Actually, the eyes are the only place where I have makeup. I have some eye shadow because I noticed how weird they look completely plain.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Stutzer on 12 Apr 2015, 21:33
Actually, the eyes are the only place where I have makeup. I have some eye shadow because I noticed how weird they look completely plain.

Goddamn it, you have demonstrated my ignorance expertly.  :cry:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 13 Apr 2015, 04:20
Yes, I have been advised several times by people to put makeup, when there was already some. It proves the point that as long as you don't notice it, it works as a way to accentuate little details and add realism without making it look like makeup.

I also understand that not everyone sees colour the same, or with the same intensity either so...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 14 Apr 2015, 05:40
Actually, the eyes are the only place where I have makeup. I have some eye shadow because I noticed how weird they look completely plain.

Point taken.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 14 Apr 2015, 17:56
Hm. My own preference is to stick with what Aria's actually wearing (minimal makeup, if any) and then just mess with expression, angle, and light and shadow until I get something I like.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jace on 15 Apr 2015, 19:18
I decided subtlety is for ninnies.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/92656795_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 16 Apr 2015, 04:53
Jace is so hot!  :oops:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Valadeus on 16 Apr 2015, 07:27
I haven't changed my portrait since day one...maybe it's time to but I have no idea what to do with it.

Love the new look Jace...ironically, our characters may get along a little better.

Gwen, I like the new look, but I see what you mean about the eyes. Perhaps rotating her look a bit to her left will change the way the light hits them and give you back the effect you had originally?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 19 Apr 2015, 04:03
Gwen, I like the new look, but I see what you mean about the eyes. Perhaps rotating her look a bit to her left will change the way the light hits them and give you back the effect you had originally?

Hahah, I think I'd actually changed it from what was posted there originally by the time you made this post. I go through spurts of portrait changing.

In fact, I've already messed with it yet again. Dunno if this new one looks good or not.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 19 Apr 2015, 13:33
I got Arnulf some arm tatoos because I figured he had way too few body markings for a Minmatar.

Not sure about the expression though, I have a lot of trouble manipulating the engine to produce something decent and tend to play around with lighting more.

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/731831371_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vizage on 19 Apr 2015, 14:27
Recently changed my portrait to go along with Kirstin's newly acquired outfit (thanks Steff!<3!) First real attempt at capturing her giving her best fake smile. 

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ché Biko on 19 Apr 2015, 15:47
That's a good fake smile, Viz. Coupled with some nice highlighting of her hair to distract from the eyes that could betray the sincerety of the smile. I would not change a thing, well, maybe the place of the body, maybe more of center. I like the background as well, I feel like it compliments the uniform or something.
89/100

Ché finaly exchanged his picture since closing his corp, now without his old corps red star shirt, and more beard.
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1431146475_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Valadeus on 25 Apr 2015, 06:56
Nice Viz, I like the fake smile, heh.

I did, in fact, change Liam.

It's now my new forum portrait.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhir on 25 Apr 2015, 07:42
Nice Viz, I like the fake smile, heh.

Yeah. Good job with the smile. It can be extremely difficult to make a decent smile with the character creator and for some bloodlines it is even impossible. Most attempts at smiles just look creepy.

As for Miz:

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I have tried to make her look elegant and beautiful which is extremely difficult for vherokiors.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Valadeus on 25 Apr 2015, 08:08
I would say you succeeded.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 28 Apr 2015, 10:43
Nice Viz, I like the fake smile, heh.

I did, in fact, change Liam.

It's now my new forum portrait.

I like it. Good framing, good posture. No facial expression on purpose, I'm presuming? Gotta keep up that neutral hardass vibe?

Also, Liam is still a stud. Confirmed.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 28 Apr 2015, 12:55
Raze's characters are always factionned respectable poster boys  8)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Valadeus on 28 Apr 2015, 13:22
Raze's characters are always factionned respectable poster boys  8)

It's a thankless job but somebody's got to do it...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 04 May 2015, 01:00
New Charlie portrait. R8/8. I'm still trying to go for the B-Movie vampire look, I guess. I don't know. He's pretty to me, at least.
(https://image.eveonline.com/character/94237224_1024.jpg)


It's a thankless job but somebody's got to do it...

How self-absorbed people can be ♪
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 04 May 2015, 03:14
The face suits the character I think... But what happened to his face ? It looks painful.

@Gwen : the new portrait looks nice!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 08 May 2015, 16:10
New one after coming back, updated. Eventually settled for long hair because it works best for portraits. Not totally happy with shadow artifacts but that's what you get often with that hairstyle.

(http://image.eveonline.com/Character/738725366_1024.jpg)

I like the new new Lyn. :)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 08 May 2015, 16:31
Ah... yes, thanks!

I changed it a few days ago out of a whim (even if I was pretty content with the other one, which is my dependable value). It's actually not the new Lyn but a return back to one of my first portraits, that I always liked, but which is very hard to get properly and never really did since I changed the complexion when they allowed us to pick any complexion we want.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vizage on 08 Jun 2015, 14:18
Viz's new look!

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhir on 08 Jun 2015, 14:42
That must be Viz's murder face.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Vizage on 08 Jun 2015, 14:45
The only thing Viz murders is a good cup of tea.

And possibly noses....
Definitely noses...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Charles Cambridge Schmidt on 16 Jun 2015, 08:33
The only thing Viz murders is a good cup of tea.

And possibly noses....
Definitely noses...

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Valadeus on 26 Jun 2015, 16:26
New portrait! See left! Or, if you want a larger size...spoiler below. Let me know what you think, I'm rather proud of it.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Makkal on 26 Jun 2015, 20:23
Two years later and Makkal has only changed her shirt.

(https://image.eveonline.com/character/92093581_512.jpg)

It helps with the neck though.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 05 Jul 2015, 10:09
Updated Morwen's pose for the first time in years. Style got tweaked a bit too while I was at it. (Click for 1024px version.)

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/462207810_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/462207810_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Korsavius on 05 Jul 2015, 11:30
New Charlie portrait. R8/8. I'm still trying to go for the B-Movie vampire look, I guess. I don't know. He's pretty to me, at least.
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"Bitch, I may have a big unpleasant scar on my face but that don't stop me from looking fab."

New portrait! See left! Or, if you want a larger size...spoiler below. Let me know what you think, I'm rather proud of it.

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Eyebrows on fleek, gurl.

Updated Morwen's pose for the first time in years. Style got tweaked a bit too while I was at it. (Click for 1024px version.)

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I don't even know what to say. Very drastic change, I think. Good change.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhir on 06 Jul 2015, 18:40
New portrait:

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The clipping sucks though :(
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 11 Jul 2015, 21:08
Also a new portrait:

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I always have trouble making these work at all levels of zoom. This one ...

... well, I think it works pretty well on this level. Smallest size is a little wrong, though.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 12 Jul 2015, 02:46
Smallest sizes are always a little botched...

I like this one better.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 12 Jul 2015, 10:38
I'm still tinkering with the lighting.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Kyoko Sakoda on 13 Jul 2015, 23:13
Also a new portrait:

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I always have trouble making these work at all levels of zoom. This one ...

... well, I think it works pretty well on this level. Smallest size is a little wrong, though.

Design graduate critique incoming.

1) Rule of thirds is a bit off. For dynamic photos always make the focal point somewhere along those lines.
2) Along the same lines, the index vector (face and eye direction) clash too much with the body placement. If you want Aria to be looking slightly over her shoulder, try putting her body more toward the right of the frame.
3) Consider either a) outer clothing or b) a more angled shot to make the neck seem a little less pronounced.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 14 Jul 2015, 06:04
Giraffe necks are an anatomic fault of CCP though, not posing. An ongoing issue.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ché Biko on 14 Jul 2015, 15:06
I usually like Aria's portraits. Her expression tends to have the same sort of ambiguity that I try to put in Ché's...hmm, actually...this one of Aria is close to a mirror for Ché, but with left/right sides switched.
But anyway, the neck...I kinda like it for Aria, as it gives her sort of a bird-like frailty. And the eyes, I love the eyes, nice contrast. It makes me want to try how it would look like if the illuminated eye was dead center of the picture. The slight tilt of the head makes the eyebrows interesting, hard to read. The lighting gives her a cold and warm (maybe not warm, but softer) side. The mouth complements it all nicely.
...I can't really see anything I would change.
95/100

So, as I no longer have a reason to display my "corporate" red star shirt, I gradually reverted to what my portrait was like shortly after Incarna, more close up. Only, he appears a bit older now, his expression changed a tad, but this is close to his default neutral expression.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jennifer Starfall on 14 Jul 2015, 20:11
Jenn has a temporary new portrait.
(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/1797335690_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Stutzer on 15 Jul 2015, 01:42
Mad Jenn still hot.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 15 Jul 2015, 09:24
Also a new portrait:

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I always have trouble making these work at all levels of zoom. This one ...

... well, I think it works pretty well on this level. Smallest size is a little wrong, though.

Design graduate critique incoming.

1) Rule of thirds is a bit off. For dynamic photos always make the focal point somewhere along those lines.
2) Along the same lines, the index vector (face and eye direction) clash too much with the body placement. If you want Aria to be looking slightly over her shoulder, try putting her body more toward the right of the frame.
3) Consider either a) outer clothing or b) a more angled shot to make the neck seem a little less pronounced.

It may have changed a bit since you last looked at it, Kyoko. I'd be interested in whether your thoughts have changed at all.

... light's still maybe not quite right, but that seems to be partly a problem of me trying to do this on a graphically gimped machine. My in-game render doesn't have the bright eye/dark eye thing going to nearly such a high degree.

Also: "Rule of thirds?"

<-- not a designer or student of design
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 15 Jul 2015, 09:29
Set up a three by three grid on your avatar or whatever else you're working on. For avatars this basically means one side of a rubik's cube. Align things accordingly along those lines for various effects. It's remarkably simple and works wonders. Eyes along one line, maybe centered where they intersect, etc.

Generally makes things look more alive and dynamic than a passport photo.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Cakzad Arcashiri on 15 Jul 2015, 11:26
 Lol, if I had tried this it would've been spam  :D
 But good portraits guys! Especially you Jen...... :)

 Now, where's Caroline (also formerly known to Cakzad as "the crazy hottie I can't have because of my religion")  :lol:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhir on 22 Jul 2015, 13:19
New portrait:

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I made a new one. Tried to make a smile :S
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 22 Jul 2015, 18:29
As a paramedic, that face would immediately have me reaching for the adrenaline shot. You're going into anaphylactic shock. Eat nuts or something?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 23 Jul 2015, 19:49
Updated Keta's portrait too. Clicky for 1024px version. (Also, bonus CQ picture here (http://i.imgur.com/Luxu2Ba.png).)

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91105890_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/91105890_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhir on 24 Jul 2015, 04:29
As a paramedic, that face would immediately have me reaching for the adrenaline shot. You're going into anaphylactic shock. Eat nuts or something?

You can't just give adrenaline shot to everyone who has been at the Vherokior section of Deck 23
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mizhara on 24 Jul 2015, 05:31
That's it! Mandatory shots for everyone!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 24 Jul 2015, 10:44
Updated Morwen's pose for the first time in years. Style got tweaked a bit too while I was at it. (Click for 1024px version.)

When I first saw this in game I seriously did not recognize Morwen at all.  I was in total shock.  That said, I love Morwen's new look!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 24 Jul 2015, 10:51
I like Mit's pose here, a bit more daring than normal, but am just now seeing the hair through the shoulder thing, will have to try and fix that.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 24 Jul 2015, 13:52
Updated Morwen's pose for the first time in years. Style got tweaked a bit too while I was at it. (Click for 1024px version.)

When I first saw this in game I seriously did not recognize Morwen at all.  I was in total shock.  That said, I love Morwen's new look!
:cube:

Proof that Mitty lost his shit:
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[ 2015.07.14 03:56:42 ] Mitara Newelle > WTF MORWEN?!!
 [ 2015.07.14 03:57:47 ] Morwen Lagann > Let me guess.
 [ 2015.07.14 03:57:52 ] Morwen Lagann > Just noticed the new portrait.
 [ 2015.07.14 03:58:13 ] Morwen Lagann > Or you missed that I was offline until I logged in. :P
 [ 2015.07.14 03:58:22 ] Mitara Newelle > Yes the portrait
 [ 2015.07.14 03:59:14 ] Morwen Lagann > http://i.imgur.com/rhLwvC3.png there's a brown version :p
 [ 2015.07.14 04:00:11 ] Mitara Newelle > looks sooooo different to me for some reason
 [ 2015.07.14 04:00:46 ] Lilly Terranova > so is this like..morwen's natural color, or did she de her hair? o.O
 [ 2015.07.14 04:01:15 ] Morwen Lagann > Technically it is still brown, I just didn't think to do a transition portrait.
 [ 2015.07.14 04:04:08 ] Morwen Lagann > it's based off of this one I have on sisi http://i.imgur.com/mq07ezD.png
 [ 2015.07.14 04:04:18 ] Morwen Lagann > I also took one with the old pose but new hair. http://i.imgur.com/59xobod.png
 [ 2015.07.14 04:04:41 ] Mitara Newelle > does not compute....
 [ 2015.07.14 04:04:45 ] Mitara Newelle > /emote fizzles out
 [ 2015.07.14 04:09:16 ] Morwen Lagann > /emote snugs Mittens. <3
 [ 2015.07.14 04:10:03 ] Mitara Newelle > seriously, so used to the brown hair.  I can see it now, aldy and morwen talking and mit comes up, 'who the fuck is this?"
 [ 2015.07.14 04:13:50 ] Morwen Lagann > :p

New Mitty is... sassy.

Also not sure how to fix the hair thing. I think that's an issue with the portrait rendering server not taking physics into account like the character editor does.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Utari Onzo on 25 Jul 2015, 08:26
Utari has recently gone from this:

(http://puu.sh/jclsb/9cbc94e313.jpg)

To this

(http://puu.sh/iUm31/b394a2d073.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 22 Sep 2015, 08:24
Utari is looking more badass, very appropriate :)

Been going through a lot of portraits lately...

In mourning for Empress Jamyl I:
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Post induction into the Order of Jamyl (http://www.orderofsaintjamyl.net/):
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Indirahara on 03 Oct 2015, 15:24
I had my three-year anniversary in EVE this week, and decided to update my portraits as a thing. =)

Indira:
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Joura:
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Lyn Farel on 03 Oct 2015, 16:30
Nice play on apparent age!
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Quintrala on 14 Oct 2015, 20:36
Nice pic, Indira! The outfit is so very Holder Ladylike, sober and discreet, as is the makeup. Like a posed painting. If I had to point at something I would say get golden earrings to go with the hairpiece and it would be perfect... but there are none so I fault CCP. 95/100.

For Joura, I love the jewel and matching tattoo (and earrings). Skin and makeup: so very much her mother's daughter. Perhaps lighting is unfair, a bit too dark? 90/100


As for me, new outfit, new pic...

(https://image.eveonline.com/Character/383710938_512.jpg) (https://image.eveonline.com/Character/383710938_1024.jpg)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 14 Oct 2015, 21:23
One of my favorite Quinportraits by far. :cube:
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gaven Lok ri on 10 Dec 2015, 03:33
New Gaven portrait: http://imgur.com/aJcOECK
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gesakaarin on 10 Dec 2015, 08:42
I feel so conflicted now about who has the best flowing man-mane in the Empire.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Utari Onzo on 10 Dec 2015, 09:12
The Aldification of the Amarr Male Establishment has begun
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gaven Lok ri on 10 Dec 2015, 11:55
Nonsense! Gaven has always had long hair. I just made bad portraits.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 10 Dec 2015, 11:55
New Gaven portrait: http://imgur.com/aJcOECK
He's eyeing some sneaky Khanid that is off camera...
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Utari Onzo on 10 Dec 2015, 12:14
Nonsense! Gaven has always had long hair. I just made bad portraits.

I was more reffering to the '5 o'clock shadow' and 'judgy' look.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gaven Lok ri on 10 Dec 2015, 12:25
The 5 o'clock shadow I'll give you. That is new.

Gaven has been Judgy since before Aldy existed, though =D
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Silver Night on 10 Dec 2015, 19:42
A judgey look is one of the few things that has stayed with the True Amarr through the character gen changes and years.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Gaven Lok ri on 10 Dec 2015, 23:44
You should try getting a decent smile out of a True Amarr face... it comes out more of a sneer every time.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Mitara Newelle on 06 Jan 2016, 09:38
The newly appointed Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum -

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And with poorly Gimped in hijab -
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 19 Mar 2016, 00:08
SOE armor acquired, and a new, slightly more positive Morwen portrait to go with it.
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Free moody staring-contest-with-a-mirror action shot.
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Click on either image for fullsize.
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Ché Biko on 05 Apr 2017, 06:46
Almost two years have past since the last portrait was taken. The result: a slightly less positive Ché:
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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Jev North on 20 Jun 2017, 02:25
Che is having a troubled moment there, and the crow's feet show he's seen a lot, and done a lot of drugs to boot. 5/7.

Also, hey, it's this thread again. Including comments I missed five years ago.

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Jev: Agree that the shadows are hiding too much of her.  The angle, eye focus, and slight smirk suggest some personality traits that you want to convey, but they are kind of lost in all the black.
Yes. Yes. You say it like it's a bad thing. That's actually exactly what I was going for at the time, and I guess what I've returned to now:

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(Ugly self-shadowing continues to be my bugbear, but there's no easy (or possible) way to get rid of what's happening around her neck.)
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Casserina Leshrac on 20 Jun 2017, 11:04
The latest for Casseria

https://image.eveonline.com/Character/847421568_1024.jpg
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Utari Onzo on 23 Jun 2017, 15:38
In the words of Nirvana, slightly twisted....

Ra(t)e me.

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Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: kalaratiri on 23 Jun 2017, 15:39
Great pose, but seems slightly blurry?
Title: Re: Character Portrait Rating
Post by: Utari Onzo on 23 Jun 2017, 15:43
Blame eve. It came out like that from char creation, that is a direct link to the image on my gate profile. I took a number of shots but char creator hates that pose apparently.