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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => The Summit (IG Channel Discussion) => Topic started by: Silas Vitalia on 21 Aug 2012, 12:11
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This is still going on?
99.9% of 'children' throwaway alts I've seen on the Summit have been (in my opinion) OOC/IC annoying and frankly immersion-breaking (again in my opinion).
I grant a half exception to Inhonores' child as that has been a long established character with some actual depth, who I have no ooc issues with but will still deride IC when I see them.
....While children turning the summit into a virtual daycare center has not been outright banned as of yet I will continue to IC deride and make 'unpleasant' any 'children' I see connecting to the channel, within moderation rules of course.
And before we get any rage argument threading let's all discuss this reasonably and calmly
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children ? o.O
other than Anette Inhonores, or Camille Roth ? Those are the only two that I can think of offhand ?
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One joined in yesterday, and some of us tried to scare her off. It was a Meiyi, iirc.
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Are you talking about Gwen? She's 26.
One joined in yesterday, and some of us tried to scare her off. It was a Meiyi, iirc.
Meiyi is one of the pregen names, so this might be a different person than the other Meiyis we have running around.
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Are you talking about Gwen? She's 26.
I lol'ed.
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She's talking about Jennifer Meiyi who said she was 8 and was in The Summit without her mother's permission (after confirming that her mother was Evelyn Meiyi).
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Ahh. Thank you! I haven't interacted with this character yet.
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Personally I (and Morwen, due to actually having spent time interacting with the characters outside of the Summit) have always tended to give Anette and Camille a lot of leeway as they've been established as characters outside of the Summit for a long while, and extensively so. New ones get the usual dose of skepticism and "what the fuck are you doing here, and more importantly, what the fuck are your parents doing allowing you here?" until they can prove themselves worth the bandwidth.
Camille and Anette also had this irritating (read: infinitely gigglefit-inducing) habit of behaving better than the majority of the supposedly-mature "adults" present in the Summit more often than not. That said, children generally fall under the "baseliner" policy last I remember, so their presence is entirely by the grace of Mod, so to speak. I'm pretty sure if they stepped out of line or made a particular nuisance of themselves, they'd get dealt with. ;)
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Well, that escalated quickly.
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Like I said, Immersion-breaking.
I'm having difficulty figuring out ways or reasons why an 8-year old would have access to, or even know how to interphase with capsuleer broadcast equipment, or even have the proper implants.
I also haven't had many business conference calls with children picking up the phone at one end and chatting with the rest of us, either.
Or telephone calls in general where this ever, ever happens.
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Actually, I have. >.>
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Actually, I have. >.>
Haha fair enough. Do the call participants stop their conversation to have a long chat with the child?
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In most cases they go "Haha, is that a kid? Hey sweetie" for a while and then after someone pulls the kid away it's back to business.
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I'm having difficulty figuring out ways or reasons why an 8-year old would have access to, or even know how to interphase with capsuleer broadcast equipment, or even have the proper implants.
I also haven't had many business conference calls with children picking up the phone at one end and chatting with the rest of us, either.
Or telephone calls in general where this ever, ever happens.
In Cami's case, Ashar gave her access permissions, IC, quite some time ago - codes that allow her to connect via a comm-drone.
And I've had many a conference call interupted by the child of one of the participants - it's a hazard of working across time-zones where at least one of the people involved is probably at home, at dinner or breakfast time. Not to say that it's a good thing, or that characters should regard it as a good thing - in my experience, people's reactions tend to vary according to their attitude to children and their presence in adult space - which has been my experience of capsuleer attitudes to children in the summit too - which is just good RP, no?
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I dont see any issue with it, really, as long as they behave.
Sorry its immersion breaking. So are the fucking strawman amarr alts parading slaves about that I cant go kill.
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I dont see any issue with it, really, as long as they behave.
Sorry its immersion breaking. So are the fucking strawman amarr alts parading slaves about that I cant go kill.
Make that every RPer who parades big claims around but sits in station all day. ;)
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Make that every RPer who parades big claims around but sits in station all day. ;)
But... but... I made 250,000,000 ISK in 3 minutes sitting in station... :cry:
Seriously though, I have no problem with kids in The Summit if it is handled properly. A kid character talking like an adult, yeah, I'm just going to ignore. A child character being able to do so without a parent? Yeah, sorry. The Summit tends towards the PG-13 to R rating, and as such, if I were in charge I would require children to be accompanied by an adult or designated guardian. It's just common sense. This would apply to child players as well, to avoid certain sticky legal issues that may arise if things go a bit too far in the channel.
Now, children can play EVE if their parent makes the account for them. I'd imagine a kid of a roleplayer may want to roleplay as well. As a parent I'd keep an eye on my child/children, and if they were logging in without me present, you could sure as hell bet I'd be cancelling the account (and changing the password and permission settings on my computer as necessary).
As a parent, most child characters break my immersion. Not because they are kids, but because I'd be tempted to hunt their parent down and smack them upside the head and say, "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING!?"
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What we really need is a ball room. Not for dancing... a room full of colored balls. Kids love those.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1117/527779459_92dad1b4ef_o.jpg)
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EVERYONE loves ball rooms/pits.
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The only issue with ballpits is that someone would have to fish small Achur out of it every so often....
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As a parent, most child characters break my immersion. Not because they are kids, but because I'd be tempted to hunt their parent down and smack them upside the head and say, "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING!?"
WHAT IN ALL HELLS ARE YOU THINKING YOU IDIOT EXPOSING YOUR CHILD TO OTHER MASS MURDERERS SOME OF WHOM MIGHT EVEN DISLIKE YOU ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD SEEK TO DO HARM TO YOUR CHILD WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN GRUESOME DETAIL JUST HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN NO I THINK NOT AND YES UNLIKE YOU THAT CHILD CAN BE KILLED PERMANENTLY YOU DEGENERATE WASTE OF BIOMASS THAT I AM ALMOST CERTAIN BARELY QUALIFIES AS SENTIENT!
That's Celeste's standard mental reaction to children on the Summit.
Yes, there's a reason I don't let her genuinely speak her mind that often.
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The only issue with ballpits is that someone would have to fish small Achur out of it every so often....
I'm sure Aria's training means she'll be able to look after herself.
[Edited for grammatical agreement.]
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As a parent, most child characters break my immersion. Not because they are kids, but because I'd be tempted to hunt their parent down and smack them upside the head and say, "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING!?"
WHAT IN ALL HELLS ARE YOU THINKING YOU IDIOT EXPOSING YOUR CHILD TO OTHER MASS MURDERERS SOME OF WHOM MIGHT EVEN DISLIKE YOU ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD SEEK TO DO HARM TO YOUR CHILD WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN GRUESOME DETAIL JUST HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN NO I THINK NOT AND YES UNLIKE YOU THAT CHILD CAN BE KILLED PERMANENTLY YOU DEGENERATE WASTE OF BIOMASS THAT I AM ALMOST CERTAIN BARELY QUALIFIES AS SENTIENT!
That's Celeste's standard mental reaction to children on the Summit.
Yes, there's a reason I don't let her genuinely speak her mind that often.
And this is partly why I <3 Celeste.
The only issue with ballpits is that someone would have to fish small Achur out of it every so often....
I'm sure Aria's training means she's be able to look after herself.
He wasn't referring to Aria. :lol:
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WHAT IN ALL HELLS ARE YOU THINKING YOU IDIOT EXPOSING YOUR CHILD TO OTHER MASS MURDERERS SOME OF WHOM MIGHT EVEN DISLIKE YOU ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD SEEK TO DO HARM TO YOUR CHILD WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN GRUESOME DETAIL JUST HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN NO I THINK NOT AND YES UNLIKE YOU THAT CHILD CAN BE KILLED PERMANENTLY YOU DEGENERATE WASTE OF BIOMASS THAT I AM ALMOST CERTAIN BARELY QUALIFIES AS SENTIENT!
What are your thoughts on Jove children that are born full-grown and mature?
/runs_away
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WHAT IN ALL HELLS ARE YOU THINKING YOU IDIOT EXPOSING YOUR CHILD TO OTHER MASS MURDERERS SOME OF WHOM MIGHT EVEN DISLIKE YOU ENOUGH THAT THEY WOULD SEEK TO DO HARM TO YOUR CHILD WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO EXPLAIN TO YOU IN GRUESOME DETAIL JUST HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN NO I THINK NOT AND YES UNLIKE YOU THAT CHILD CAN BE KILLED PERMANENTLY YOU DEGENERATE WASTE OF BIOMASS THAT I AM ALMOST CERTAIN BARELY QUALIFIES AS SENTIENT!
What are your thoughts on Jove children that are born full-grown and mature?
/runs_away
Mine? "Uh ... didn't Greg Bear do something like that in EON? Was it EON? I don't remember. It was the one with the big asteroid from the future, or another civilization, and part of it was this young physics professor trying to get back home pre-nuclear holocaust via the magic of alternate universes, but that wasn't the plot line, it was the one where the two people from the future combined their qualities into a young AI which then became human, or maybe I'm thinking of the JOEI plotline from --- why is the refrigerator alarm going off?"
I'll let you know what the others think if they ever run into any.
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The only issue with ballpits is that someone would have to fish small Achur out of it every so often....
We can make a game out of it.
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Azdan's typical response to seeing children in a place like the Summit:
"Do your parents know you're here?"
If no, "How do you think they'd react if they were told?" Inform parents.
If yes, "Really? Fascinating." Engage in pedagogical instruction to parent why this is a bad idea, reaffirm belief that the entire cluster needs to be "educated" in proper Amarr fashion.
:roll: :cube:
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Tibs reaction is to scare that kid the fuck away before someone worse finds them. \o/
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Isn't really a problem I've seen. I can see how it would become immersion breaking quickly if it was a common thing. Yeah, your kids wandered onto the feed. It happens, you know? But it's a one-off.
For instance, maybe you accidentally end up nude on camera. Woah, boy. Embarrassing! But it happens to people. Now back when these slips were happening on a daily basis... then yes, it also got extremely immersion breaking.
I'd suggest to lean on the side of - if you think it'll be disruptive and also nonconstructive, don't do it.
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Isn't really a problem I've seen. I can see how it would become immersion breaking quickly if it was a common thing. Yeah, your kids wandered onto the feed. It happens, you know? But it's a one-off.
For instance, maybe you accidentally end up nude on camera. Woah, boy. Embarrassing! But it happens to people. Now back when these slips were happening on a daily basis... then yes, it also got extremely immersion breaking.
I'd suggest to lean on the side of - if you think it'll be disruptive and also nonconstructive, don't do it.
The reasons these 'slips' happen on a daily basis is because each individual person 'only does it once'. While it's the first and only time for their character, it's the umpteenth time for the channel. So you have an unrealistic frequency of nudity slips or kids on the feed.
Nothing happens literally by chance in roleplay. It happens by choice.
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This is why I encourage our mods to consider action based on habits of behavior, and not single incidents.
Sometimes it gets forgotten. We try.
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Isn't really a problem I've seen. I can see how it would become immersion breaking quickly if it was a common thing. Yeah, your kids wandered onto the feed. It happens, you know? But it's a one-off.
For instance, maybe you accidentally end up nude on camera. Woah, boy. Embarrassing! But it happens to people. Now back when these slips were happening on a daily basis... then yes, it also got extremely immersion breaking.
I'd suggest to lean on the side of - if you think it'll be disruptive and also nonconstructive, don't do it.
The reasons these 'slips' happen on a daily basis is because each individual person 'only does it once'. While it's the first and only time for their character, it's the umpteenth time for the channel. So you have an unrealistic frequency of nudity slips or kids on the feed.
Nothing happens literally by chance in roleplay. It happens by choice.
Yes, precisely.
People think 'Oh, well I've never done x before, how bad could it be?'
Which is why I urge people to learn on the side of caution with anything like that. Because if you think of it, a dozen other people probably did, too.
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Like I said, Immersion-breaking.
I'm having difficulty figuring out ways or reasons why an 8-year old would have access to, or even know how to interphase with capsuleer broadcast equipment, or even have the proper implants.
Kids adapt more quickly to the technology around them than adults ever seem to predict they will. My kid's three years old, can't read properly yet.
But he's been surrounded by and using smartphones and tablets since he was about 12 months old. He knows how to pick up three different styles of smart phones, flick to whatever he wants to use on them and get on with things. Ditto with our tablets and laptops. He knows our phone numbers and gets his shits and giggles by dialling them to laugh at us. I taught him our numbers because I thought it'd be cute/funny and besides, he'd never be able to remember or use them in any real way until 'much later on', right? Stupid me.
What he'll be capable of doing by 8 years old with the technology he's grown up using gives me cause to worry.
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Being the owner of one of these characters, I can offer a [biased] perspective. I notice there's two types of child characters; one as a plot device, the other as just another character. Admittedly, and this 2008-09 era, Anette started out as a trampy plot device character. Then, over time, she became her own. I, too, dislike "plot device child characters" (like targets for parent sympathy, or kidnapping), but I keep it to myself, since I'm not sure if it would come out as hypocritical.
My idea with Anette (developments coming soon) is to make her into a sort of Major Interstellar Player, in the style of a capsuleer, just within the baseliner world, which in turn justifies her presence amongst eggers. I know we have our stereotypes of RL actors/actresses in Hollywood, but it's inferred heavily that in the Gallente Federation, they are much more respected and sometimes honoured individuals who can wield a lot of power.
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So what I'm getting from this thread is that it's totally a good idea to have a toddler streak across the feed sometime, thereby combining the children issue and the nudity issue into one massive drama bomb.
In all seriousness this does make me wonder about something. Are there any actual references, clear or inferred, about age requirements regarding capsuleer implantation? There are some obvious biological reasons why it would be A Bad Idea to try and implant cybernetics into the still developing brain of a child, but really are there any official lore stipulations in this area?
We're talking about some very advanced medical and electronics technology in the EVE universe, and there are certainly enough Bad People out there that would be perfectly happy to turn a (comparatively easily controlled) child into one of the most versatile and effective weapons in human history to date. Even taking a decidedly less sinister route I think it's also reasonable to assume it's only a matter of time before the genetic lottery pays out a genius child that is also capsule compatible. Along the latter line it does seem improbable yet plausible that perhaps a rather gifted Caldari child could demonstrate understanding of the ramifications and be talented enough to warrant being allowed to train and pilot a capsule much earlier than the average pilot.
Ignoring the technical and medical complications for a bit, it also wouldn't be the first time the idea of using children, conditioned from birth, to try to create some new crop of "super soldier." I imagine a fair number of us have seen films, read books, or watched shows where similar ideas were played out.
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Ignoring the technical and medical complications for a bit, it also wouldn't be the first time the idea of using children, conditioned from birth, to try to create some new crop of "super soldier." I imagine a fair number of us have seen films, read books, or watched shows where similar ideas were played out.
Very Ender's Game.
I don't know.
I could come up with rationales either way.
Given:
-- current thinking about the brain partially rewiring itself during the teenage years, and
-- that I don't think we've had an official word on whether "clones" grow (from the descriptions of how they're made I'd guess they wear out/age (oddly?) but don't "grow up")
there could be very good reasons for avoiding doing this stuff to youngsters if you care about them growing into adults.
If the situation seemed dire enough, I doubt that would be an issue. I don't know why they'd then be hanging around socialising, though.
Alternatively, given degradation of relexes after a certain age, I could imagine there's a peak time when you might qualify for the training and implants, and that if your pattern wasn't taken during that time you'd be over the hill.
... but we're weird and rare and they seem to train any nutbar who's able to take the implants without mindlock.
The storyline team's approach seems to be "What would make for good stories?". Maybe ask them.
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Question: Why would you hook a child up to technology that has a good chance of making the child catatonic, and can only be fully utilized by putting the child in mortal danger?
Aside from some twisted mind-screwing secret group that would make Cerberus look like the Red Cross, well... why? Why would you do that to a kid? The difference between Capsuleer neural rigging and, say, Ender's Game is that in Ender's Game the children weren't sent into a situation that would lead to their death.
That said, the Neocom is a completely different technology. It's like a cell phone. My 4 y.o. niece has a cell phone (which actually turned out to be useful when a caregiver had a seizure). Neocoms are probably used for all sorts of nifty things, unrelated to Capsuleer tech; just like cloning, fluid routers, and a whole host of other technologies. Capsuleers just use a communications network controlled and operated for the sole use of Capsuleers, maintained by the CRC.
So... while capsuleer children seems so, so wrong, having a child with Neocom access is perfectly reasonable.
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Question: Why would you hook a child up to technology that has a good chance of making the child catatonic, and can only be fully utilized by putting the child in mortal danger?
Aside from some twisted mind-screwing secret group that would make Cerberus look like the Red Cross, well... why? Why would you do that to a kid? The difference between Capsuleer neural rigging and, say, Ender's Game is that in Ender's Game the children weren't sent into a situation that would lead to their death.
Well, for one thing, EVE has no shortage of mind-screwing secret or not-so-secret groups, several of which might be tempted to create and utilize child soldiers if given the opportunity. I'd say this includes the Empires - they'd just hide it a little bit better.
You don't even need that, though. All you'd need is a down-on-their-luck family, possibly struggling with debts, seeing an opportunity for potential astronomical wealth. Sure, it may be a long shot, but if that kid makes it big, you stand to profit all the way. And if you're already spending money you don't have on supporting the child, well...
Children have been and are still abused, sold off and even employed as cannon fodder in real life. I don't see why EVE would be different.
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Well, for one thing, EVE has no shortage of mind-screwing secret or not-so-secret groups, several of which might be tempted to create and utilize child soldiers if given the opportunity. I'd say this includes the Empires - they'd just hide it a little bit better.
Saede might be inclined to do something like that. I might add that to my list of things to do to try and get people to wardec me when I make my post for the brainstorming topic.
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Well, for one thing, EVE has no shortage of mind-screwing secret or not-so-secret groups, several of which might be tempted to create and utilize child soldiers if given the opportunity. I'd say this includes the Empires - they'd just hide it a little bit better.
Indeed. I have a thread like this tucked into the background of one of my alts.
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Question: Why would you hook a child up to technology that has a good chance of making the child catatonic, and can only be fully utilized by putting the child in mortal danger?
Aside from some twisted mind-screwing secret group that would make Cerberus look like the Red Cross, well... why? Why would you do that to a kid? The difference between Capsuleer neural rigging and, say, Ender's Game is that in Ender's Game the children weren't sent into a situation that would lead to their death.
That said, the Neocom is a completely different technology. It's like a cell phone. My 4 y.o. niece has a cell phone (which actually turned out to be useful when a caregiver had a seizure). Neocoms are probably used for all sorts of nifty things, unrelated to Capsuleer tech; just like cloning, fluid routers, and a whole host of other technologies. Capsuleers just use a communications network controlled and operated for the sole use of Capsuleers, maintained by the CRC.
So... while capsuleer children seems so, so wrong, having a child with Neocom access is perfectly reasonable.
From my understanding the NEOCOM is not a cellphone. It is a device that facilitates the use of the Capsule and various capsuleer specific amenities (alongside other PDA like services) even when not in the pod. PDAs exist to serve the needs of non-capsuleers who want those functions, but the NEOCOM is specific to starship use.
"As an essential component of the navigational and tactical interface of spaceships, Neocoms are a small but essential cornerstone of the interstellar economy."
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I had taken them to actually be software, not hardware.
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I think the deadspace beacon debacle was related to a teenage kid twiddling with the Neocomm to see some soap opera.
But I would think that in the Main Factions, where there are human rights for their citizens, a capsuleer could not be 'euthanized' for the first time without the age of consent. The implantation and the training would be a viable option in special pilot academies before that, for simulations and whatnot.
I doubt there would be a legal system in place where a guardian can have their ward killed.
Except among the Intaki, but it is not the death of the person, it is a Reborn thing.
The body does not die.
While with the capsuleers, the body certainly does die.
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Like I said, Immersion-breaking.
I'm having difficulty figuring out ways or reasons why an 8-year old would have access to, or even know how to interphase with capsuleer broadcast equipment, or even have the proper implants.
I also haven't had many business conference calls with children picking up the phone at one end and chatting with the rest of us, either.
Or telephone calls in general where this ever, ever happens.
Sorry if this is a necropost, but....
Have you seriously never seen a kid hitting buttons on a computer and randomly opening a program? As I recall (Jennifer being on of my alts, after all), that was precisely the reason her mother gave to Azdan Amith via EVEMail -- she was given access to a computer to play her games and hit the wrong button.
Immersion-breaking? I'll leave that for others to decide. I have to say, though, the Summit crew really gave that little girl a rough time! *lol*
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Yeah, but I bet even if they manage to break into a capsuleer fluid router, that may be the only time they will do it unless they have reasons to do it again, and wacky parents...
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RISE, RISE THREAD OH SO DEAD, RISE TO BE POSTED ON AGAIN. I COMMAND YOU BY THE NECROTHREADICON.
Tibs reaction is to scare that kid the fuck away before someone worse finds them. \o/
I'm somewhat tempted to come back to The Summit just to stalk for an opportunity to have Vince kidnap the kid and dump it at the ass end of Skarkon to some Angel owned sneaker sweatshop. Then send the parent a fresh pair of Nuke sneakers for the rest of that kids life. Just to make a point. :lol:
Speaking of child monsters and weapons. TBL had Sansha breeding children inside metal combat chassis directly, makign them into twisted creatures as they weere forced to grow into the chassis. More in the spoiler below.
[spoiler]In one scene a character gets chased by one of these things while looks like it's attacking it just wants to be held and to feel a loving touch. That was pretty twisted, one of the rare moments I found TBL to be actually a good read.[/spoiler]
Sorry for necrothread :psyccp:
EDIT: Grammar
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hah, Saede's siblings already live on Skarkon. And Saede makes she they have allowances, so they could just buy a bus ticket home :P
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hah, Saede's siblings already live on Skarkon. And Saede makes she they have allowances, so they could just buy a bus ticket home :P
I think we have a different concepts in our heads about how slave labor works, and in what kind of facilities ;)
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Haha, I know Madeleine has appeared once or twice randomly. I'm sure the twins will make appearances as well. It's not a bad thing to me. I actually saw the summit as just like a giant video chat room. At least that's how it was explained to me in the beginning.
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I think people need to let other people RP how they wish until it begins to adversely affect others. Ava's son has watched the summit a handful of times (twice, if you wonder, early mornings EST usually, when it tends to be me, Andy, and a few other pretty kid-friendly people) for a couple of minutes, and he cannot reply to anything, he can just watch. Ava would probably let him talk to someone like Andy with no worries, but she simply wishes to limit his access to everyone else. Why? Because they're scum.
Your kids ever sit on your lap when you talk to friends on the phone or on Skype, perhaps?
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Because they're scum.
Scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuum.
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I think people need to let other people RP how they wish until it begins to adversely affect others.
*snips*
Your kids ever sit on your lap when you talk to friends on the phone or on Skype, perhaps?
Fun in my EVE? I think not!
If that skype call in question was with equivalent of attendees such as Charles Manson, The Pope, Rasputin, Ted Bundy and Sonny Barger, I wouldn't let my kid listen in, lol.
And who's to say having the scene I described earlier happen wouldn't lead to fun, interesting RP and storyline development.
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Watching porn and gore movies together with a toddler.
Very normal behaviour for a parent.
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Confirming that the Summit is a horrible place with horrible people and anyone letting their children in there is a horrible parent.
Let the horribleness begin!
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Confirming that the Summit is a horrible place with horrible people and anyone letting their children in there is a horrible parent.
Let the horribleness begin!
I'll have mandatory connection to all the orphanages I'm shortly acquiring. This so I can twirl my imaginary moustache and cackle madly at how horrible and evil I am.
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Confirming that the Summit is a horrible place with horrible people and anyone letting their children in there is a horrible parent.
Let the horribleness begin!
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You rang?
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If everyone on the Summit is a psychotic mass murderer, that holds true for the parents in question as well, doesn't it? Ergo, those kids are doomed anyway. :P
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Can you tell me how to get
How to get to Summit Street ?
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ROFL!
I guess people don't want to hear that I watch Criminal Minds and CSI with my toddler *BAD MOMMY ALERT*
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I hate you people so much.
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I think people need to let other people RP how they wish until it begins to adversely affect others.
*snips*
Your kids ever sit on your lap when you talk to friends on the phone or on Skype, perhaps?
Fun in my EVE? I think not!
If that skype call in question was with equivalent of attendees such as Charles Manson, The Pope, Rasputin, Ted Bundy and Sonny Barger, I wouldn't let my kid listen in, lol.
And who's to say having the scene I described earlier happen wouldn't lead to fun, interesting RP and storyline development.
And if that group of people instead included General Rommel, Thomas Edison, Sitting Bull, David Attenborough, and Amelia Earhart? ;)
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I think people need to let other people RP how they wish until it begins to adversely affect others.
*snips*
Your kids ever sit on your lap when you talk to friends on the phone or on Skype, perhaps?
Fun in my EVE? I think not!
If that skype call in question was with equivalent of attendees such as Charles Manson, The Pope, Rasputin, Ted Bundy and Sonny Barger, I wouldn't let my kid listen in, lol.
And who's to say having the scene I described earlier happen wouldn't lead to fun, interesting RP and storyline development.
And if that group of people instead included General Rommel, Thomas Edison, Sitting Bull, David Attenborough, and Amelia Earhart? ;)
But it rarely does consist only of those, now does it? While the cavalcade of characters you suggest we're to be vocal there, the people I mentioned would still be there, watching, waiting.... Stalking :P
PS. Thomas Edison was a thieving backstabber so he fits in my list quite well. :lol:
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Not only Thomas Edison fits.
Amelia Earhart - though considered a heroine - was maybe a bit reckless on her last flight, David Attenborough might lack some empathy in regard to dying animal babies. Well, okay, that might not be that bad.
But Sitting Bull had as little problems with slaughtering the white people as Custer had with killing the natives and General Rommel - who maybe was never a member of the NSDAP and might or might not have ordered his man to ignore the orders to kill jews - had no problems with the Nazi regime's rise, wasn't a democrat at all and wrote about Hitler to his wife that it is "wonderful to have such a man". He certainly believed in German supremacy.
Such a nice bunch of people, really. ;P
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Yeah, Sitting Bull was a sly old codger. More than a bit of a sell-out, and a quack.
David Attenborough makes programs about wild animals, and therefore belongs to that small elite group of reporters who are more suicidally insane than disaster chasers and war correspondents. Any adult person who voluntarily crawls into termite hills or lets a swarm of crabs crawl all over their naked feet is quite evidently not right in the head. :P
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I specifically mentioned those individuals because theyre not all "perfect". Happy you guys picked up on it.
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Lies. David Attenborough is a god among men :l
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I prefer Al Bundy, he is quite honest, even though he has a terrible character - at least he's honest about that, too.
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Most historical persons are horrible. Emperor Norton seems to have been the sole exception. ;)
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Kiddies in The Summit!
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Kiddies in The Summit!
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[ 2013.03.16 16:28:55 ] Lasairiona > #############################################################################################
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[ 2013.03.16 16:29:42 ] Lasairiona > ((Shit, sorry, went out of the room and my son got the laptop))
[ 2013.03.16 16:30:01 ] Cynthia Gallente > (( POOO!!! your son is cool ))
[ 2013.03.16 16:30:34 ] Conventia Underking > (( Seriously... I almost thought that was a IC scream! ))
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d'awwwwww
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Sounds like something my kids would do if I didn't catch them in enough time. :lol:
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I believe the debate can be put to bed now.
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(http://img593.imageshack.us/img593/7440/necrop.png)
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Lol I love you guys!
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im 16
am i considered a child still........?
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Is your character 16?
Either way, you're welcome in the Summit as long as you follow the rules. Silas was talking about people playing characters who are kids.
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Is your character 16?
Either way, you're welcome in the Summit as long as you follow the rules. Silas was talking about people playing characters who are kids.
*faceplam* right.....i took it in the other aspect
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Are you allowed to be talking about taking it in the other aspect when you're 16?
::monocle::