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Title: Justin Bieber
Post by: Kamiko Hautala on 23 Apr 2010, 10:34
(http://socialbutterflies.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/justin-bieber-justin-bieber-7011899-493-604.jpg)

Discuss. Why are we dying musically?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Casiella on 23 Apr 2010, 10:36
Wait, he's a real person? I thought it was just a meme.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Havohej on 23 Apr 2010, 10:42
Discuss. Why are we dying musically?
rofl
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Seriphyn on 23 Apr 2010, 10:45
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Maybe *SNIP* on the far right can tell us! :D

Just a corporate commodity...he'll go away and die eventually
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Casiella on 23 Apr 2010, 10:47
Is that Verone in a Minmatar shirt? That can't possibly be right... can it?
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Milo Caman on 23 Apr 2010, 11:10
Is that Verone in a Minmatar shirt? That can't possibly be right... can it?

I do believe it is.  :D
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: IzzyChan on 23 Apr 2010, 22:33
There is an animal on that kid's head.  Call animal control, quick. D:
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Senn Typhos on 13 May 2010, 12:41
To me, it always looks like he's attempting the "emo swoop" haircut
(circa, 2007 http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NmHOPs9j4rc/SIhwhAM2yVI/AAAAAAAAAZk/Aom3prgi9E0/s400/Newt.jpg),
but because he's 9 his head is too small in diameter, so it ends up going totally horizontal instead of an elegant 25 degree angle.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: lallara zhuul on 13 May 2010, 16:47
The death of music came when the kids of the Mickey Mouse club started to rule the American pop music scene (Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears.)

The death of music came when we discarded LPs.

The death of music came when we moved from analog to digital format with music.

The death of music came when all the greats of rock n' roll suffocated in their own vomit, overdosed on drugs or drank themselves to death.

The death of music came when music videos became the primary way of promoting your music.

The death of music came when white boys started playing music of the black folk.

... need I go on?

There will always be good music, you just have to find it, or make it yourself.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 14 May 2010, 06:16
The death of music came when the kids of the Mickey Mouse club started to rule the American pop music scene (Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake and Britney Spears.)

The death of music came when we discarded LPs.

The death of music came when we moved from analog to digital format with music.

The death of music came when all the greats of rock n' roll suffocated in their own vomit, overdosed on drugs or drank themselves to death.

The death of music came when music videos became the primary way of promoting your music.

The death of music came when white boys started playing music of the black folk.

... need I go on?

There will always be good music, you just have to find it, or make it yourself.

So Led Zeppelin, the Stones, Elvis, the Beatles, and Chicago killed music? Michael Jackson's Thriller video didn't revolutionize music into a new level?

I'm only 18, and when I hear today's Auto-Tune pop, I actually think that late 90's pop is better constructed than today's rubbish. Of course, that's bad in itself, but I can't compare to Sinead O'Connor.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Lillith Blackheart on 14 May 2010, 07:36
Music isn't dead, it's alive and well.

Stop listening to pop music if you think it's dead and you will be surprised at how alive and well music is.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: lallara zhuul on 14 May 2010, 08:05
The feelings that I expressed earlier were attempts of conveying the feelings of the people of that time and age reacting to a new status quo in the state of the music.

Personally I feel, when it comes to music, that some days we should still be sitting in trees whooping at each other and throwing poop at each other. Some days I feel that it was not such a good idea to even get out of the ocean. But everyone has that kinds of days.

Some days I stumble upon something specific in this white noise of music of today and find something that gives me an emotional response which I find delightful and reinvigorating.

The fact is that at the moment, partly because of the population explosion partly because of the fact that music is so easily accessible in recorded form from the past 100 years, we have access to more different kinds of music than ever before this time and age. With the personal computer people can quite freely create and mix music into something completely personal, share it through different online mediums and collaborate, if they choose so, with people across the globe.

I may have come off as pessimistic in my last post but actually I am quite the opposite when it comes to music.

What I am pessimistic about is the state of humankind at the moment, especially in the western world.

But that is more hippie shit and not for this thread.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Zuzanna Alondra on 14 May 2010, 09:26
lallara beat me to my first thought:

Why's music dying?

Because: Video killed the Radio Star.

I personally have given up on the radio station that is "aimed" for my age group and listen to a station call "The Q" mostly now which is a mix of classic rock and a few decent songs from when I was about in high school.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 14 May 2010, 10:06
In terms of pop music, although I hated her at first, Lady Gaga has some catchy singles. It's not like that disgrace of a singer Ke$ha that's all the rave now. But I'm eclectic in my tastes.

Right now I only listen to 70s and 90s rock, funk, trip hop, alternative hip hop, jazz, and techno. Also the occasional Romantic period composition to keep my piano skills top notch.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Vieve on 14 May 2010, 21:50
I'm almost convinced that Justin Bieber's a rework of the Shaun Cassidy bot.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: lallara zhuul on 15 May 2010, 04:41
Well he is like the white kid that could do all this blues stuff around the latest Blues Brothers movie.

Technically he can do all the 'cool' things that come with the type of music but, to quote the african-american vernacular, he has no soul.

I believe that is what the OP was referring to when talking about dying musically.

There is has been this tendency in the american pop music scene to adopt the 'cool' things of african-americans in the ways of usage of the singing voice which in context of the old classics, and music that gives you a certain kind of cathartic experience, and pop music which basically takes the old and takes a good solid piss and a dump on the whole concept of actually using music as something else than elevator music.

One of the reasons that I hate hip hop vehemently, they take the 'good bits' of music, sample it and turn it into a fucking chorus.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Benjamin Shepherd on 18 May 2010, 18:03
Have to disagree; hip hop is a varied form of music that successfully (most often when done correctly) combines jazz and funk samples and fits them with poetic verse. The hip hop I hate is Southern rap and gangsta rap that has lyrics talking about how many bitches someone's fucked, or how many drinks it takes to get an ass looking good.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Mazca on 19 May 2010, 03:46
Music is alive and well.

The fact that the progressive trajectory (if you will) it has taken is to the distaste of some, is just unfortunate for us ;)
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Louella Dougans on 19 May 2010, 12:16
There was a thing, a video, that i saw linked somewhere, it was pretty bad looking.
the "group" doing it was named something silly like "BrOkeNCide" or similar assault on language.
I was like o.0 it was really, really bad.

Also, I read a thing, about how it's because the Ear ages. Older people, (and not all that old these days), cannot hear the highest notes, and as such do not get the same experience as younger people. When listening to the music they grew up with, the older people's brains fill in the gaps, so it sounds fine, even though they can't fully hear it.

therefore "what's that rubbish you're listening to?" is a perpetual complaint, based upon the aging of the Ear.

Furthermore, the usage of personal devices, Walkmans, Discmans, iPods, mp3players etc, with thingies going right into the ear, the hearing of people deteriorates at an appallingly high rate. Navies have problems recruiting sonar operators, as school-leavers hearing isn't as good as it used to be, for example.

This will make the age at which people say "modern music is rubbish" younger and younger, due to the premature aging of the Ear.
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Ashar Kor-Azor on 25 May 2010, 17:06
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This thread

is TERRIBAD /o|
Title: Re: Justin Bieber
Post by: Myrhial Arkenath on 26 May 2010, 00:58
I personally have given up on the radio station that is "aimed" for my age group and listen to a station call "The Q" mostly now which is a mix of classic rock and a few decent songs from when I was about in high school.

Good to hear I am not the only one. At the office I used to work we'd have one of these stations on that played "only the newest and greatest hits" so you got to listen to the same songs at least 3x a day. And then of course you had the hit song of the week, which would be repeated every two hours. My co-workers seemed to think this normal, but me being used to listening to a whole different kind of radio station literally got sick of it. It added a lot to the stress I was experiencing and I was glad when a shift in colleagues meant we'd just bring our own music on iPod. Our office manager was greatly concerned by all of this and simply couldn't understand how we could be so asocial, but truth to be told work efficiency went up a lot by it.

It's also been one of the things I found very difficult when moving, because back in Belgium I'd listen to a station called Studio Brussel which is a tad more alternative despite being a public station. When I tuned in to the more alternative 3FM here I still found them to be terribly mainstream. So I am sticking with the good old 80's and 90's songs on Radio Veronica. They do mingle in the current day stuff that I enjoy (mostly rock) which is nice as well. I'll take that any day over Beyonce or flavor of the month artists like Bieber.