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General Discussion => General Non-RP EVE Discussion => Topic started by: Akrasjel Lanate on 25 Nov 2010, 07:08

Title: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Akrasjel Lanate on 25 Nov 2010, 07:08
No more learning skills what you think about that:
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Saede Riordan on 25 Nov 2010, 07:38
I think I need to figure out what I want to spend 2 million free sp on
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Julianus Soter on 25 Nov 2010, 07:44
^
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Isobel Mitar on 25 Nov 2010, 07:51
I'm happy they go away, learning skills were not a good design decision.  :)
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Random Lost Soul on 25 Nov 2010, 09:31
My character feels smarter already! :D
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Casiella on 25 Nov 2010, 10:19
I think I'm glad I read this before I spent ISK today on the advanced learning skills for an alt.
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Seriphyn on 25 Nov 2010, 10:31
About fucking time.

Awesome.
Title: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 25 Nov 2010, 12:06
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the SP game!
Post by: Arvo Katsuya on 25 Nov 2010, 12:20
The tables... have been balanced.

Now I got to think where I'm distributing this 2m SP in Learning skills. Also, what is going to be the gift for Christmas when we're getting this on the 14th? This is already a wish for many people to come true. :D
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the SP game!
Post by: Casiella on 25 Nov 2010, 12:31
This is half of the Christmas gift. They haven't told us the other half.
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the SP game!
Post by: Z.Sinraali on 25 Nov 2010, 13:02
Redundant threads are not very efficient, Mr. Sanshapants.
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the SP game!
Post by: John Revenent on 25 Nov 2010, 13:03
At least I get 5 million more SP for Caldari Titan or something.  :bash:
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the SP game!
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 25 Nov 2010, 13:39
Redundant threads are not very efficient, Mr. Sanshapants.

(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8048/singlefuck.jpg)
Title: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Dex_Kivuli on 25 Nov 2010, 19:41
Topic says it all. How do we all feel about that?
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824

Personally, I think it's great. I can't wait to spend my several million skillpoints on kewl skillz!
Title: Re: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Casiella on 25 Nov 2010, 19:42
Already being discussed (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=1396.0). :)
Title: Re: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Saede Riordan on 25 Nov 2010, 19:47
3rd topic on this? can we get a fourth?
Title: Re: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Dex_Kivuli on 25 Nov 2010, 19:55
My bad, I saw the topic but didn't realise what that was.
/me kneels down before an array of black candles and sacrificed goats
"Oh great and mighty Mods, please delete this thread as a display of your amazing power!!"
Title: Re: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Arvo Katsuya on 25 Nov 2010, 19:56
Or merge. Honestly though, where's the first topic, before Ghost's?
Title: Re: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Saede Riordan on 25 Nov 2010, 19:59
Or merge. Honestly though, where's the first topic, before Ghost's?

in the guides forum for some reason.
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the SP game!
Post by: Dex_Kivuli on 25 Nov 2010, 20:00
At least I get 5 million more SP for Caldari Titan or something.  :bash:

I too am excited about this. It reminds me of a recent policy in Australia.

In the midst of the Global Financial Crisis, the Australian Gov't gave all tax-payers a lump sum payment, and encouraged people to spend it on random consumption to boost the economy. When I got mine, I resolved to spend it on frivolous things.

I'm the same with this skillpoint boost. I should spend it on sensible things: searching for good support skills, maybe some armour skills.

But instead, I'm spending it on pure fun, awesomeness!! I'm considering the idea of getting Amarr cruiser straight to level 5, as well as laser skills.

Go from a complete Amarr novice one day, to an Amarr pro the next!!

Has any RP justification for this been posited? Do you think there will be one?

lolol
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* This will also involve cancelling any and all market orders containing these skills. Contracts containing learning skills will have those skillbooks substituted for copies of the Pax Amarria.
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the Skill Points game!
Post by: Vieve on 25 Nov 2010, 20:03
My first thought was "Craaaaaap, don't make me train Vieve on carriers!"

Then I realized she hasn't maxed out Electronic Attack Ships yet.  Or learned Dictors/Heavy Dictors.  That should chew up some of those points, and with luck I can tuck in enough odd skills so that she won't have to train Caldari or Minmatar.  :D

Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Casiella on 25 Nov 2010, 20:05
Ahhh, much better.

(Topics were merged, in case any latecomers get to wondering.)
Title: Re: Learning skills going the way of the dodo
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 26 Nov 2010, 00:24
Or merge. Honestly though, where's the first topic, before Ghost's?

in the guides forum for some reason.

Well that explains why I never found the damn thing.
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 26 Nov 2010, 00:33
3 points on this.

1 - The only feature learning skills ever truly provided for EVE players was to teach the nubbins' the value of patience - wait now, profit later. That said, I don't think EVE's rather brutal reputation is going to be cut down by this much.

2 - Remember, people, that refunded SP has no expiration date. If you don't feel you have something to dump it in now, feel free to store it until you see a reason to use it.

3 - Best thought out major feature of Incursion yet, C/D?
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Silver Night on 26 Nov 2010, 01:58
Ghost, you have the learning skills all to 5, right?

Because I do.


Delicious, delicious SPs.
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 26 Nov 2010, 03:11
Ghost, you have the learning skills all to 5, right?

Because I do.


Delicious, delicious SPs.

Learning 5, basics to 5, advanced to 4.

I never trained the advanced to 5, which is one of the factors that put you ahead of me YEARS AGO IN THE DARK AGES.

BUT NOW WE WILL SEE WHO SITS IN THEIR +5 CLONE THE LONGEST
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Gottii on 27 Nov 2010, 01:22
Ghost, you have the learning skills all to 5, right?

Because I do.


Delicious, delicious SPs.

Learning 5, basics to 5, advanced to 4.

I never trained the advanced to 5, which is one of the factors that put you ahead of me YEARS AGO IN THE DARK AGES.

BUT NOW WE WILL SEE WHO SITS IN THEIR +5 CLONE THE LONGEST

When it comes to sitting in station in a high-end clone, Silver has no equal... ;)
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: hellgremlin on 27 Nov 2010, 06:01
I left my advanced ones at 4, so I'll only have about 2.2 million SP to play with.

Think I'll leave the points un-assigned, in case some new pwn-ship gets added. Should give me a nice advantage in training for it.
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the SP game!
Post by: Matariki Rain on 28 Nov 2010, 05:16
Has any RP justification for this been posited? Do you think there will be one?

My justification for the change is that CONCORD now requires pilots to have done this training before they can register for a licence, whereas before it was optional professional development done after graduation and initial licensing.

I may well handwave the change to my current characters. If I had a go at justifying a character getting a wodge of points to reallocate, it would be to say that they're sort of moving some of my head's program files into the OS (learning skills go to default character attributes). When they do that it's possible to slip more program files into the space that had already been prepared and used.

Your justification may differ.
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Casiella on 28 Nov 2010, 08:57
I don't plan on addressing it IC, really. Don't see where it will actually come up.
Title: Re: Silver now I can win the Skill Points game!
Post by: Borza on 30 Nov 2010, 08:30
Then I realized she hasn't maxed out Electronic Attack Ships yet.  Or learned Dictors/Heavy Dictors.  That should chew up some of those points, and with luck I can tuck in enough odd skills so that she won't have to train Caldari or Minmatar.  :D
:eek: Why would anyone do that?
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Julianus Soter on 30 Nov 2010, 09:25
If they don't want to train for carriers? :p
Title: Re: "Learning skills are going away"
Post by: Casiella on 30 Nov 2010, 10:00
EAFs are good in some specific situations. Just not enough, because they're even less common than titans now. :evil: