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Wanted to start a topic on Wiyrkomi.
The main page for Info here. (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Wiyrkomi_Corporation_(NPC_corporation))
Probably the least visible (OOC) of the 'Patriot' corporations. Info says it is supposedly run by the Seituoda family, and is big in manufacturing and industry.
Found a few news articles - tried to make sure related ones are grouped:
CBD CEO and Wiyrkomi CEO have a thing? (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/cbd-chief-attended-social-augmentation-conference-with-wiyrkomi-ceo/)
Seituoda Family concerned about corporate growth (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/seituoda-family-concerned-by-slow-growth-at-wiyrkomi/)
Wiyrkomi board member condemns CBD CEO (http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/seituoda-family-condemns-gallentean-hinpas-and-calls-wiyrkomi-board-meeting/)
Everyone's thoughts. What do you think of when you think of Wiyrkomi? What about their relationship with the other Megas? The other patriots?
The whole business with Heth?
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I'm bumping this.
Also, I'm not saying that I'll abuse my admin powers and ban anyone who doesn't contribute.
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I'm bumping this.
Also, I'm not saying that I'll abuse my admin powers and ban anyone who doesn't contribute.
Oh, man... Uh... Wiyrkomi is like... the best! Seriously. Big, uh... "W" and... stuff.
(Actually using Wiyrkomi in a new yarn. Great thread, btw, and links. Thought of bumping it a few days ago, actually, but didn't have anything constructive to add.)
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Well, it seems like KK and Lai Dai get most of the attention. I felt Wiyrkomi deserved some love.
Just a friendly, family owned business.
Like MomCorp (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mom_(Futurama)).
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The reason people don't pay attention to them is their lack of L5 missions.
I started out running missions for them when I created this character. What's not to love about "Wiyrkomi Peace Corp"? :) However, I've found conflicting information about them in regards to their patriotic credentials, making them sound more pragmatic than hawkish. If I stumble across it, I'll post it.
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The reason people don't pay attention to them is their lack of L5 missions.
I started out running missions for them when I created this character. What's not to love about "Wiyrkomi Peace Corp"? :) However, I've found conflicting information about them in regards to their patriotic credentials, making them sound more pragmatic than hawkish. If I stumble across it, I'll post it.
See, I didn't know level 5s were that popular. I would have chalked it up more to not having as many stations are some of the others (plus being 'National' rather than 'Global' like Lai Dai, KK, and Ishukone).
I would be interested in the info you mention, if you do find it. Was it that they were more practical than patriot, or might it have been something along the lines of their interpretation of Patriot might have had a lot of practical elements. (Sort of a 'rugged self-reliance' model, except the 'self' involved is a vast megacorporation).
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Except that Wiyrkomi is more "Global" than Lai Dai. Wiyrkomi (KK and Ishukone) has stations spread across the entire cluster while Lai Dai is only in 4 regions, the State.
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Really? My bad, I thought Lai Dai was global (maybe because of the Khanid connection). Where are most of the Wiyrkomi stations outside the State?
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There's a pile of them in Aridia.
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I know Placid has a few. In general they have stations in every empire.
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I've always wanted to see a Wiyrkomi RP group and I'm surprised that we haven't since I've always felt they are one the most fleshed out corps.
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How do you pronounce it? Wire-komi? Weer-komi?
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A faux-Scope article by Aicar brought attention of Wirykomi in the Mannar home system...but it got zero attention, probably because it's not an area of potential interaction since no one can play as Mannar. If it's not something that concerns ourselves and our characters, it's not something of interest unfortunately (the following Scope article got plenty of attention because it was Minmatar)
I thought the "public statement" by Wirykomi in that article was particularly believable. Two hated enemies that acknowledge their differences but agree to be gentlemen and trade
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If I remember correctly, the Wiyrkomi Peace Corp is the jump clone corporation for Eve University. If you want to join E-UNI, you can't have any faction with the Peace Corp. That might have a some effect on player interest.
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If I remember correctly, the Wiyrkomi Peace Corp is the jump clone corporation for Eve University. If you want to join E-UNI, you can't have any faction with the Peace Corp. That might have a some effect on player interest.
That would probably have an impact, because main Wiyrkomi agents probably have storylines for their peace corps.
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If I remember correctly, the Wiyrkomi Peace Corp is the jump clone corporation for Eve University. If you want to join E-UNI, you can't have any faction with the Peace Corp. That might have a some effect on player interest.
That would probably have an impact, because main Wiyrkomi agents probably have storylines for their peace corps.
WPC is one of the few combat focused corporations that also has cloning facilities in its stations. Storyline agents are location dependent from what I can tell.
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Furthermore, WPC has no storyline agents.
http://eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=-&Corporation=1000042&Faction=-&Division=-&Level=-&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=1&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0 (http://eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=-&Corporation=1000042&Faction=-&Division=-&Level=-&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=1&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0)
(Wiyrkomi itself does: http://eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=-&Corporation=1000011&Faction=-&Division=-&Level=-&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=1&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0 (http://eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=-&Corporation=1000011&Faction=-&Division=-&Level=-&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=1&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0))
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Wiyrkomi Corporation Stations by Region: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Wiyrkomi_Corporation/stations
Also, they have no level 4 'combat' agents (http://www.eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=-&Corporation=1000011&Faction=-&Division=90&Level=4&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=-&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0) as you see by this list as well: http://evemaps.dotlan.net/npc/Wiyrkomi_Corporation/agents.
Also, no R&D agents (http://www.eve-agents.com/index.dxd?AgentName=&System=&Region=-&Corporation=1000011&Faction=-&Division=18&Level=-&Skill=-&Locator=-&Storyline=-&FWAgent=-&Sort=7&Direction=0)!
From an RP perspective, they are likely 'trickier' to play, being the most 'reserved' of the patriots, unlike the nationalist popular sensationalists.
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They own a bunch of factory stations in Vlillierierierllierier (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Vlillirier), which shows some moxie.
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They own a bunch of factory stations in Vlillierierierllierier (http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Vlillirier), which shows some moxie.
They have stations throughout the 4 Empires (6/8 Caldari megacorps do). I would argue the stations in Federation space are what remains of pre-Gallente-Caldari War enclaves that managed to survive the war and continue to operate post-war and potentially expand. Corps like CreoDron and Quafe are in State space and possibly were there right alongside the Caldari corps initially.
One potential theory regarding the actual cause of the Gallente-Caldari war is it actually started as a corporate rebellion, but the tone quickly become ethnic to divide the corporations.
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One potential theory regarding the actual cause of the Gallente-Caldari war is it actually started as a corporate rebellion, but the tone quickly become ethnic to divide the corporations.
:twisted:
Tax revolts can get out of hand really fast.
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Holy sh-- the Caldarepublicans!
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Holy sh-- the Caldarepublicans!
I think that does both the Caldari and modern American political parties a dis-service.
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Please don't take that seriously, I was just humorously (?) riffing on Vieve's comment. :)
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Holy sh-- the Caldarepublicans!
I think that does both the Caldari and modern American political parties a dis-service.
Agreed.
I also suspect it was likely also a conflict over jurisdiction. States' corporate rights vs. Federation ones.
It could have been a combination of both -- a dispute over inventory or "personal property" taxes. Here's a crazy example. One of the counties I used to live in in Missouri not only charged a landowner property tax, but also levied a per-head tax for any livestock on that property (including emus, of all things). One of the reasons for this that I remember being stated was that the tax monies would be used to maintain and upgrade sanitation systems to contain runoff from pastureland ... never mind that there weren't any public works projects to do that (the farmers either had their own individual impoundment systems, which they had to keep maintained so that it passed DNR standards, or shared one with a neighbor).
So, it's not hard for me to imagine a situation like this:
Federation: You owe us more taxes.
Corporations: On what?
Federation: What you have in your warehouses. The goats mowing your lawn.
Corporations: You mean the stuff we already bought and paid taxes on? The stuff we haven't sold yet? And we have no intention of selling our goats. They keep the lawn mowed.
Federation: ...
Corporations: !
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They have stations throughout the 4 Empires (6/8 Caldari megacorps do). I would argue the stations in Federation space are what remains of pre-Gallente-Caldari War enclaves that managed to survive the war and continue to operate post-war and potentially expand. Corps like CreoDron and Quafe are in State space and possibly were there right alongside the Caldari corps initially.
If true, then their early jump into Black Rise makes sense. A shorter path to ship back to Caldari Space seems advantageous. They also have a Peace Corp station nearby.
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So, it's not hard for me to imagine a situation like this:
Federation: You owe us more taxes.
Corporations: On what?
Federation: What you have in your warehouses. The goats mowing your lawn.
Corporations: You mean the stuff we already bought and paid taxes on? The stuff we haven't sold yet? And we have no intention of selling our goats. They keep the lawn mowed.
Federation: ...
Corporations: !
Heh heh.
Or even:
Federation: Nice colonies. Fed union workers were given a fair chance at those jobs I trust and all are fully insured through Government approved institutions? Nevermind, it should all be right here on this freight broker's form... wait, you DID keep those records, non?
Corporations: But, they get danger pay, and uhh, 'disability' insurance, yeah that.
Federation: Tsk, tsk. I'll have to send my lawyers in to review all your books.
Corporations: Oops, too bad they were lost to pirates in that last shipment...
Federation: Not a problem, I'll send you the tax bill for whatever I think you owe, and those colonies are off-limits until proper permitting has been processed.
Corporations: Oppression!
Federation: Criminals!
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Bump!
I actually have to go back and read all the stuff in the links.
Jukko and Thea are Wiyrkomi and live at the W factory in Samanuni.
To me, W seems a bit more blue collar than SuVee or Lai Dai. But like the other megacorps, they have their own security, their own corporate intelligence...and their own agenda.
Bwa ha ha
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Wiyrkomi were the lynchpin of my brief foray into Caldari RP, and I am glad to see their name rising in prominence over the past year or so.
Ship skins look ace, too.
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I think they are interesting - I like how their flavor of Patriot is more concerned with Traditionalism. It's a flavor of nationalism that is distinctly different than their fellow Patriots.
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Yes they are a bit like the patriot variant of what Hasyoda is for the liberals with corporate values based around family values.
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I tried to get stuff going for Wiyrkomi...
They will always have a special place in my rapidly decaying heart.
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Wayarkammy. Why? Archemy.
That is all.
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Even though I have left Caldari RP behind at this point, I will make a lengthy post about this soon. Last week of graduate school, will have time soon. I have a lot of collected sources on Wiyrkomi and my thoughts on them. I'm also prepared to have a whole lot of people disagree with my take on them - I tend to think that many have created content around them that does not fit with what we have been given by CCP. But then again, that is my opinion of a huge amount of Caldari RP.