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Title: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Kunarian on 18 Sep 2014, 03:21
I'm currently starting recording data and writing articles for a new Khanid News Service. However I am stuck for a name.

I've taken inspiration from the name of the RL Al-Jazeera (literally "the island") and decided to go for something simple and elegant and not "[Insert thing] News". "The Kingdom" and "The Great House" are names I am currently trying to create a translation for.

I'm using Mongolian and Persian atm for helping me create a name.

Ideas thus far:

[Mongolian inspired]

[Persian inspired]

Any ideas or support for one of the above names would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Kunarian on 18 Sep 2014, 03:43

Some words I threw together from the above in a rather basic way. Please freely comment.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Odelya on 18 Sep 2014, 07:20
Khāne (خانه) means “house” in Persian, but it isn’t used as in “House Windsor”,  for house/dynasty you would use Dūdmān (دودمان), Khāndān (خاندان) or Selsele (سلسله).

If there's something more about the Persian language you would like to know, I will be glad to answer you. I think “Khanid News Service” is a pretty good name though...  :eek:
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Morwen Lagann on 18 Sep 2014, 08:03
Silas and some of the East Khanid Trading folks had a Kingdom news service iirc. They might have some ideas.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Anyanka Funk on 18 Sep 2014, 09:05
What Morwen is referring to is Dark Amarr News. You can find stuff by them here (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Stories_by_Lucius_Vindictus), here (http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1559078), and here (http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1484982) (There is probably more stuff if you search).

Lucius and Silas no longer play Eve.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Karmilla Strife on 18 Sep 2014, 20:52
I like the IGS post, and that they are trying to do financial news instead of political news. Also, subscription fee is genius.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Jace on 18 Sep 2014, 21:03
The business news idea is indeed a nice one. All of the trader channels or trader friendships are constantly talking about how business and markets are shifting in the cluster anyway, but other than a couple blogs not many people actually publish anything about it AFAIK.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Karmilla Strife on 18 Sep 2014, 21:10
It does seem like a fresh RP angle. It avoids a lot of the "same arguement" pitfalls. Also, I'm a longtime Economist subscriber, it's not news without a financial section :P
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Mizhara on 19 Sep 2014, 08:45
Loved the business plan. Definitely worth looking into, guys, even though it's not necessarily going to cause much in-game action/interaction. I'm sold on the concept.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Kunarian on 21 Sep 2014, 15:15
Glad people have shown an interest. Just in case some people don't know, the Corporation is called Padesar Uls.

Any things you think might be helpful for me (e.g. particular channels, websites, etc.) to make this as holistic as I want it to be would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Elmund Egivand on 22 Sep 2014, 03:14
KNN (Khanid News Network), which also doubles as a swear word in South East Asia.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Alain Colcer on 22 Sep 2014, 08:51
Voices of the Realm

Khanid Journal Network

don't know how to translate those into mongolian (or asiatic stepes dialects)
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Gaven Lok ri on 22 Sep 2014, 13:16
I would go Turkish/Persian rather than Mongol for inspiration, if you want a historical culture to play with for ideas/languages, personally. Just because the relationship between Amarr and Khanid seems much closer to the relationship between Persia and the Turks than it does the Mongols. 
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Kunarian on 22 Sep 2014, 15:04
I would go Turkish/Persian rather than Mongol for inspiration, if you want a historical culture to play with for ideas/languages, personally. Just because the relationship between Amarr and Khanid seems much closer to the relationship between Persia and the Turks than it does the Mongols.

I ended up going Persian/Mongol. Although I've never heard of the idea of Turkish/Persian relationship being similar to the Amarr/Khanid.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Gaven Lok ri on 22 Sep 2014, 16:27
You wouldn't have. I am pretty sure it is my idea. It also requires a bit more esoteric reading than you are going to get from almost anyone else. :P

But basically, the eastern periphery of the Sasanian and then the Samanid states were bordered by Turkish states that had a somewhat complicated relationship with the Persians. Sometimes they were at odds, other times the Turkish groups basically served the Persians. The Samanids are the interesting ones for comparison to Amarr, because they start using some of the more persianized Turks as soldiers, governors, and generals like this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alp_Tigin

Then further out to the east you have groups like the qarakhanids, which Persianize a good deal less. I would imagine the Amarr/Khanid relationship on Athra looked somewhat similar, with different groups of Khanid Amarrizing at different rates.

Of course, we don't have an Amarr equivalent of the Turkish generals taking the palace and setting up their own Persian-Turkish hybrid dynasty, so it only goes so far.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Jace on 22 Sep 2014, 22:32
Just dropping a note of encouragement/support. I like how you are handling this idea/concept so far. Keep on keepin' on.
Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 24 Sep 2014, 12:30
KNN (Khanid News Network), which also doubles as a swear word in South East Asia.


I briefly ran the "Kingdom News Network" corp with a 'news' alt to get some stories out there when I didn't want to post for Silas.   https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2016745#post2016745


I'd also suggest looking at the old "Dark Amarr News" which did some lovely, lovely posts.

(https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/e/e1/Thu_Mar_03%2C_2011.jpg)

(https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/1/18/Sun_Mar_13%2C_2011.jpg)

(https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/1/19/Sun_Mar_20%2C_2011_%282%29.jpg)

(https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/f/f3/Sat_Jul_30%2C_2011.jpg)

(https://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/3/3c/Sun_Jan_29%2C_2012.jpg)

Title: Re: Help Naming A Khanid News Corporation
Post by: Odelya on 24 Sep 2014, 15:50
Of course, we don't have an Amarr equivalent of the Turkish generals taking the palace and setting up their own Persian-Turkish hybrid dynasty, so it only goes so far.
Hmm....  :yar: