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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => CCP Public Library => Topic started by: Katrina Oniseki on 14 Jun 2014, 13:29
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I've been reading these TWIE posts since I often dont have time to keep up with everything. I found something interesting in 48's, so I thought I would post it here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=351846&find=unread
The Fiction Portal and ISD Mercury's contributions
The Mercury volunteers - writers of fiction of various kinds for the world of EVE Online - are lending added depth to the Kronos release. Their new articles will be published throughout the early part of June, with the latest ones appearing on the Credits and Updates page. Check out the Fiction Portal and the latest articles to learn more about EVE Online's fantastic and deep background story!
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Fiction_Portal_credits#Latest_additions_and_updates
Seems to be mostly about pirate factions and ship articles. Neat stuff, though I'm not entirely sold on them.
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Ava is not going to like the Assault frigate changes....
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... changes?
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She's often RPed that she prefers ships without crew. Here, it says assault frigate crew is 2-5.
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Minmatar ships have more crew according to the chart, so it's probably at the upper range.
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Frig crew amounts being the 2 - 5 has been known for a quite a while. There is chart on these forums that CCP published, go do some archaeology, there's also mortality rates and the like listed on it.
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TIL Morphite has magical properties and is the Eve equivalent of Unobtanium. There's probably ads in New Eden right now offering bottles of Morphite dust you can topically apply to your penis to make it grow 6 inches in one month.
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Frig crew amounts being the 2 - 5 has been known for a quite a while. There is chart on these forums that CCP published, go do some archaeology, there's also mortality rates and the like listed on it.
Cramming 5 crew members into a Breacher? I am not operating a slave ship! Replace crew quarters with redundant hydraulics, reactors, capacitors and automation machinery! ALL of them!
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Frig crew amounts being the 2 - 5 has been known for a quite a while. There is chart on these forums that CCP published, go do some archaeology, there's also mortality rates and the like listed on it.
Cramming 5 crew members into a Breacher? I am not operating a slave ship! Replace crew quarters with redundant hydraulics, reactors, capacitors and automation machinery! ALL of them!
If they can fit 5 people into a tank, they can fit 5 into a breacher.
Incidentally, that's how I view most frigates operating: like tanks. Less corridors, more isolated compartments, with one to two specialists per section and inability to move to other sections (or only through very small crawlspaces). Designed for short-duration engagements and not long-term voyages. Depending on how many crew are in a section, one to two foldout bunks with shifts in that section (similar to RL jumbo jets and other big planes) rather than a singular ship crew quarter. No escape pods, there's no room for them, but each compartment is tough and redundant and able to survive a short time separated from the rest of the ship until rescue. And as the assault frigate section says, crew wear exo-suits while onboard.
The interiors of the ships in Star Citizen also offer a good concept of how I could imagine the interior of a frigate being. They did a really good job with those.
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They should just put "Estimated Crew Casualties" on killmails already.
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Frig crew amounts being the 2 - 5 has been known for a quite a while. There is chart on these forums that CCP published, go do some archaeology, there's also mortality rates and the like listed on it.
Yeah and at the same time we had those ooooold blueprints which stated for most frigates 1 crew... :psyccp:
Anyway they have been retconned out since then right ?
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Incidentally, that's how I view most frigates operating: like tanks. Less corridors, more isolated compartments, with one to two specialists per section and inability to move to other sections (or only through very small crawlspaces). Designed for short-duration engagements and not long-term voyages. Depending on how many crew are in a section, one to two foldout bunks with shifts in that section (similar to RL jumbo jets and other big planes) rather than a singular ship crew quarter. No escape pods, there's no room for them, but each compartment is tough and redundant and able to survive a short time separated from the rest of the ship until rescue. And as the assault frigate section says, crew wear exo-suits while onboard.
This, definitely. If you've ever looked at how medium/heavy bombers are set up these days, pilot/copilot and any other crew (navigator, electronic systems officer, weapons officer, etc) are often in individually separate compartments; if they are lucky there's a cramped passageway between the compartments to crawl through but in some designs they're stuck in their chairs for the duration of the flight.
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She's often RPed that she prefers ships without crew. Here, it says assault frigate crew is 2-5.
[:reason:] Ava's exceptional ability while piloting Assault Frigates allows her to get by with minimal/no crew, where a less experienced pilot would require more [/:reason:]
Idk
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She's often RPed that she prefers ships without crew. Here, it says assault frigate crew is 2-5.
[:reason:] Ava's exceptional ability while piloting Assault Frigates allows her to get by with minimal/no crew, where a less experienced pilot would require more [/:reason:]
Idk
Silly, Ava is a Shaman, she summons shamanic apparitions to fill all the crew slots 8)
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She's often RPed that she prefers ships without crew. Here, it says assault frigate crew is 2-5.
[:reason:] Ava's exceptional ability while piloting Assault Frigates allows her to get by with minimal/no crew, where a less experienced pilot would require more [/:reason:]
Idk
CCP has said something along these lines on the forums, so I don't think this really affects her that much.
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Now I'm confused. :s
"many smaller frigates are designed to be flown by a solo capsuleer, with no crew support whatsoever" link (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Frigates_%28lore%29)
Minimum Crew (Capsuleer) - Frigate - (1 - 3) link (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines)
So, do we have crew or not?
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You could interpret the data generously and consider the capsuleers as the 1 in that range. ;)
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You could interpret the data generously and consider the capsuleers as the 1 in that range. ;)
that's pretty much the only interpretation that reconciles the two sources and doesn't render one surplusage or incorrect so I don't see that as being unreasonable.
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Devs have previously said that while the standard is having a few crew on frigates, skilled capsuleers can run with no crew if they want.
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Now I'm confused. :s
"many smaller frigates are designed to be flown by a solo capsuleer, with no crew support whatsoever" link (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Frigates_%28lore%29)
Minimum Crew (Capsuleer) - Frigate - (1 - 3) link (https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines)
So, do we have crew or not?
smaller frigates, may be the important bit there.
Like, Impairors, as opposed to Punishers.
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Thanks, it does make more sense now.
smaller frigates, may be the important bit there.
Like, Impairors, as opposed to Punishers.
Well, punisher is smaller than impairor (65m vs. 75m) (http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/3369/eveshipssubcapitalediti.jpg). Eh, CCP and all their inconsistencies I guess. :(
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Just to put some previous quotes in here:
"in the same respect the Rifter is light, fast and simple enough to be flown solely by a capsuleer when he's plugged in." - CCP Falcon, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3414696#post3414696
"Keep in mind those are rough guidelines, not hard and fast numbers. An Atron is a smaller frigate than, say, an Incursus and might need less crew to pilot capably. If you want to RP that the capsuleer is the only person inside a frigate, no one should reasonably say you are wrong." - CCP Eterne, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2411396#post2411396
So just because set numbers are given on the articles, that doesn't mean it's a hard and fast thing that absolutely must be adhered to without question. It's a big universe.
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I wish they'd make fiction for DUST/Legion too, it's been far too long since CCP has given any love to it. :cry:
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So, it is conceivable for a Breacher, being a small frigate that it is, to have no crew, especially after Elmund has gone all the way to making as many of the vital functions automated with backup components in case of mishaps?
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So, it is conceivable for a Breacher, being a small frigate that it is, to have no crew, especially after Elmund has gone all the way to making as many of the vital functions automated with backup components in case of mishaps?
Yes.
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I have to admit some disappointment with lore regarding crews but that's another thread. What other Fiction goodies did we get from this?
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Lai Dai are the creators of the Bastion Module, for one.
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Note on crew: While in fiction, the ships can spend considerable periods of time in space, most players (outside of W-space) dock up regularly. So running with a minimal (or in the case of frigates, no) crew isn't a huge jump in logic. There may be situations, though, where you'd want crew in a frigate (maximum performance or ability to have "biorobots" to do repairs that can't be done by applying nanite paste to the damaged area).