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Post by: Caellach Marellus on 30 May 2013, 11:08
So I was reading the ZAM interview with CCP Seagull ( http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=32464 ) and at the bottom among the images I saw this:

(http://zam.zamimg.com/images/8/6/869661991e031214fee26e6a6eb10834.jpg)

Now if I'm not mistaken, isn't that the same ship as the fabled "Khanid Titan" that had one image years ago. Y'know, this one:

(http://wiki.eveonline.com/wikiEN/images/9/96/Kingdom.jpg)


Soooo.... do we get a new range of Supercaps in game? Are these purely NPC/Actor ships because they hate flying that Mushroom?

Wild speculation, go!
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Post by: Andreus Ixiris on 30 May 2013, 11:13
Bro, I'm very sorry to disappoint you, but that's just a normal Leviathan.
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Post by: Darius Shakor on 30 May 2013, 11:14
No those were just concept designs long ago made on a whim for a chronicle. I have always treated them, from a lore point of view, as being different exclusive models, first renditions etc, for the empires. The only ones that ever existed in game were the old Minmatar 'Leviathan' and the Gallente 'Soltueur' models anyway.

Still they do look pretty similar... Caldari relations with the Khanids and Amarr in general having some influence in their design maybe? ;)
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Post by: Morwen Lagann on 30 May 2013, 11:15
Cael, you forgot to put on your glasses today didn't you? :P
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Post by: Mithfindel on 30 May 2013, 12:01
The titan stolen by Khanid was supposed to be one of the old big ones.

Also, the ship on the foreground is a Tormentor, so unless the ship on the background is very, very far it is quite unlikely that it is a titan. Perhaps a battleship, at most.
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on 30 May 2013, 12:21
...That's a Leviathan in the first pic.
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Post by: Lyn Farel on 30 May 2013, 12:25
Yeah, that's a Leviathan.

The old image depicts the old Imud Ibrau, before CCP decided to change it to his final version, the Avatar.
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Post by: Anslol on 30 May 2013, 12:26
Get your shit together, Tyrone.
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Post by: Caellach Marellus on 30 May 2013, 12:27
Oh for .. ugh the lighting makes it look gold.

Leviathans look like giant grey spacebricks 99% of the time  :bash:



But well, it's not an Avatar tho, and I still want the Khanid ship back =(
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Post by: Lyn Farel on 30 May 2013, 12:29
Oh also,

Hello, i'm fugly. (http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/soltueur.jpg)

Omg me too ! (http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/leviathan_old.jpg)

Now that I read the old descriptions, it's quite funny, it says that the Caldari titan is smaller than the other ones and fields short ranged weapons to be able to better operate alone without an escort.
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Post by: Ghost Hunter on 30 May 2013, 12:30
The Titan that Khanid hijacked was one of two Imud Habrau, the so called actual 'Titan'. The Leviathan/Ragnarok/Erebus/Avatar are second generation baby titans, called Prometheans.

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Titan

I doubt very much we will see a proper Titan released to the player base, as it is simply too damn powerful to be thrown around.
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Post by: Caellach Marellus on 30 May 2013, 12:33
Would love them to be used by CCP actors at least. Same way the Soltieur (I probably misspelt that I know) was years ago.


Also you SURE that's a Leviathan? It looks way too pretty, and goldenish...
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Post by: Anslol on 30 May 2013, 12:35
Oh also,

Hello, i'm fugly. (http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/soltueur.jpg)

Omg me too ! (http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/leviathan_old.jpg)

Now that I read the old descriptions, it's quite funny, it says that the Caldari titan is smaller than the other ones and fields short ranged weapons to be able to better operate alone without an escort.

THAT'S a Leviathan?...Not..a Minmatar prototype?..I...whaaa?
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Post by: Silas Vitalia on 30 May 2013, 12:36
Khanid II does not fuck about.

He sees your puny modern Titans and laughs.

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Post by: Anslol on 30 May 2013, 12:42
Khanid II does not fuck about.

He sees your puny modern Titans and laughs.

Is it big to the point that half of the top part of the Imud up there is the entire length of a Leviathan?...if so then..I...uh....

/me fears.
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Post by: Darius Shakor on 30 May 2013, 12:43
Oh also,

Hello, i'm fugly. (http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/soltueur.jpg)

Omg me too ! (http://izlin.free.fr/eve/ships/leviathan_old.jpg)

Now that I read the old descriptions, it's quite funny, it says that the Caldari titan is smaller than the other ones and fields short ranged weapons to be able to better operate alone without an escort.

THAT'S a Leviathan?...Not..a Minmatar prototype?..I...whaaa?

No, the 'Leviathan' in that image is a Minmatar titan. Kind of a 1st gen issue. It is not an early version of the Caldari Leviathan.
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Post by: Karmilla Strife on 30 May 2013, 12:47
The leviathan in the first pic looks gold because of the lighting.
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Post by: Darius Shakor on 30 May 2013, 13:05
I imagine, as well, the V3 textures recently implemented have something to do with how it looks.
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Post by: Creep on 30 May 2013, 13:05
WTB gold Levi.
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Post by: Silas Vitalia on 30 May 2013, 13:12
Khanid II does not fuck about.

He sees your puny modern Titans and laughs.

Is it big to the point that half of the top part of the Imud up there is the entire length of a Leviathan?...if so then..I...uh....

/me fears.

I think the wiki mentions something about stripping most of a planets minable resources to build the thing. 

wtb death star mk 2
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Post by: Anslol on 30 May 2013, 13:14
Most of a planet's...why the hell would you need SOMETHING SO GROSSLY INCAN-erm I mean OVERPOWERED?!
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Post by: Makkal on 30 May 2013, 13:56
Because :Amarr:
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Post by: Silas Vitalia on 30 May 2013, 13:58
Most of a planet's...why the hell would you need SOMETHING SO GROSSLY INCAN-erm I mean OVERPOWERED?!

Yea see 'city of God' chronicle.

Let's build it... in space. Because :Amarr:

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Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 30 May 2013, 14:32
That's a Templar. It's an Amarr fighter used by ca- no, wait...
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Post by: kalaratiri on 30 May 2013, 14:34
That's a Templar. It's an Amarr fighter used by ca- no, wait...

MY RAVEN WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE FOLLOWING

...

Wrong thread, sorry.  :oops:
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Post by: Anslol on 30 May 2013, 14:34
That's a Templar. It's an Amarr fighter used by ca- no, wait...

SAW IT FUCKING COMING
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Post by: Graelyn on 30 May 2013, 14:51
That 'Leviathan' is the first Minmatar Titan, which is purposely fugly because it was supposed to be a roaming Thukker junk-hive colony.

To think, at one time Titans were going to have lore-based origins.  :eek:
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Post by: hellgremlin on 30 May 2013, 15:26
Chaps...

Stop being such pessimists.

There's a reason CCP hasn't retconned the terms "Soltueur" and "Imud Hubrau" from lore. Did you honestly think the Titans we have now, are the absolute apex of what we can fly in Eve?

You'll all get to see the sun killer in action someday. The Gallente titan's superweapon is a miniature singularity. You're seriously telling me you've never wondered what would happen if they released a version that could target the cores of stars?

I didn't name it Soltueur out of pithy frenchy arrogance.
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Post by: kalaratiri on 30 May 2013, 15:29
Chaps...

Stop being such pessimists.

There's a reason CCP hasn't retconned the terms "Soltueur" and "Imud Hubrau" from lore. Did you honestly think the Titans we have now, are the absolute apex of what we can fly in Eve?

You'll all get to see the sun killer in action someday. The Gallente titan's superweapon is a miniature singularity. You're seriously telling me you've never wondered what would happen if they released a version that could target the cores of stars?

Considering what happens if you warp to the center of a star, probably something hilarious.
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Post by: hellgremlin on 30 May 2013, 15:34
Well, what happens when you deploy a singularity in the core of a star IS pretty hilarious to me... not sure it will be for the rest of you though. You seem pretty attached to your empires.

:)

Then again, you're just the triggermen... your job is to fire the weapon, not to understand what the weapon actually does.