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Title: eve Crossovers
Post by: kul Shaishi on 21 May 2013, 16:56
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8139753/1/EVE-Effect (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8139753/1/EVE-Effect)
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Makkal on 21 May 2013, 17:42
Are you looking for anything specifically? Feedback?

Maybe some editing?
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Anslol on 21 May 2013, 18:47
I think kul was just ringing this story to our attention and holy CRAP is it fun. +1.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Gwen Ikiryo on 21 May 2013, 20:37
Kul is a woman (man? person?) of few words. I was sad to see her single-word but bizzarely topical and interesting post on the Achura thread got deleted!

She trims all her posts down to the bare essentials of what needs to be said. Did she write the story? Is she poking fun at it? Is she merely bringing it to our attention?

None of these questions, in truth, matter.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 21 May 2013, 21:20
She trims all her posts down to
bare essentials
Did she write the story?
Is she poking fun at it?
Is she merely bringing it to our
attention?

None of these questions,
in truth,
matter.
And now your post is poetry.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 22 May 2013, 10:55
Minor nitpicks - All EVE ships larger than a frigate require crew. No exceptions.

Though, in my personal opinion, I would be happy with assuming that tech 3 cruisers are so perfectly built for capsuleers that they don't need one at all. So, could swing either way.

We do use ammo. We do use fuel. There is no game mechanic for it, but we do use fuel.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: kalaratiri on 22 May 2013, 10:58
My most major nitpick is with 'Eve's' ground combat ability. While I'm sure there could be capsuleers with a history and/or some ability in ground combat, she seems t spend more time in a combat suit than her ship ._.

Also, when she claimed to be ~230 and having died over 470 times, I audibly snerked.

But on the whole, it's actually very good :P
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 22 May 2013, 11:04
Also, when she claimed to be ~230 and having died over 470 times, I audibly snerked.

I would be interested in seeing an ingame statistic for how many times a player has been podded. I would not be surprised to learn many older players have a higher statistic of being podded than 470.

As for being 230, ehh. Plausible.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Shiori on 22 May 2013, 11:07
470
lern2spamwarp, MaryEve
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 22 May 2013, 11:55
470
lern2spamwarp, MaryEve
Hey, she's been derping around in a pod for ~200 years. Give her a break. If anything, she sounds pretty risk-averse.
Girl needs to go out and tackle some titans in lowsec.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: kalaratiri on 22 May 2013, 13:33
Also, when she claimed to be ~230 and having died over 470 times, I audibly snerked.

I would be interested in seeing an ingame statistic for how many times a player has been podded. I would not be surprised to learn many older players have a higher statistic of being podded than 470.

As for being 230, ehh. Plausible.

Wasn't the number of deaths I minded so much as the age. I'm reasonably sure the Gallente haven't had capsule technology for that long (although my knowledge of eve's time line is somewhat out of use and hazy), and if they had that would make her among the first Gallente capsuleers ever.

Alternatively, it's set a hundred years in the future from now  :D
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 22 May 2013, 13:39
Also, when she claimed to be ~230 and having died over 470 times, I audibly snerked.

I would be interested in seeing an ingame statistic for how many times a player has been podded. I would not be surprised to learn many older players have a higher statistic of being podded than 470.

As for being 230, ehh. Plausible.

Alternatively, it's set a hundred years in the future from now  :D
Is my guess. But that begs the question of why she's not piloting some sort of tech 80 ship with all the flashy lights and dials that go 'ding' that comes with advanced technology.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Graelyn on 22 May 2013, 17:37
'Facepalm' quickly became 'hundred-hand-slap'.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 22 May 2013, 17:53
I dunno. I think it was a great effort. I enjoyed reading it.

I've seen a lot worse. It's clear the writer either isn't completely caught up on the nuances of EVE lore, or is taking artistic liberties... but that's not really a good reason to bash the effort. It's not like we had to pay money to read it.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Anslol on 23 May 2013, 07:11
I dunno. I think it was a great effort. I enjoyed reading it.

I've seen a lot worse. It's clear the writer either isn't completely caught up on the nuances of EVE lore, or is taking artistic liberties... but that's not really a good reason to bash the effort. It's not like we had to pay money to read it.

^This. It was done for free and fun. Yeah it has a lot of lore/PF errors, but honestly, who cares? Switch off the bitter for a moment and you'll find it's a pretty fun story. Crossovers aren't always accurate. They aren't PF paragons, just fun forays into the 'what-ifs' spawned from the imagination of the author.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Makkal on 23 May 2013, 11:30
I object to the notion that criticism of a story must be 'bitterness.'
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 23 May 2013, 13:33
Also, when she claimed to be ~230 and having died over 470 times, I audibly snerked.

I would be interested in seeing an ingame statistic for how many times a player has been podded. I would not be surprised to learn many older players have a higher statistic of being podded than 470.

As for being 230, ehh. Plausible.

Alternatively, it's set a hundred years in the future from now  :D
Is my guess. But that begs the question of why she's not piloting some sort of tech 80 ship with all the flashy lights and dials that go 'ding' that comes with advanced technology.
Actually, given how old (400) and how clone-y King Khanid II is, Eve may just be a really long-term cloner, who recently got into the Pod, and is really, really reckless.

470 times is still a pretty staggering number, but shit, maybe she tackles a lot of titans, warps into a lot of bubbles, and gets pipebombed a great deal. She is a Wormhole Dweller, after all.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Shiori on 24 May 2013, 10:24
Better stories obviously exist, but "have you written any of them yourself recently, Shiori?" No? Derp.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 25 May 2013, 04:28
I have certainly seen far worse fan fiction efforts. This one came over as more than a tad mary sue-ish, but there are worse things.

On a tangent, which other fictional setting do you think would be a good match with EVE? Personally I'd find us getting snarked at by Culture minds to be amusing. Mainly because they'd find the Jove to be hilariously primitive. Also I picture the interaction of Special Circumstances & the cluster's societies, and smile.

And on another tangent, what would be the weirdest crossover with EVE you can think of, and why would it still work/be worth writing?
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: kalaratiri on 25 May 2013, 04:33
Eve Online/Jurrasic Park

Eve's gotta have some prehistoric monsters right? Maybe on some worlds the monsters are not so prehistoric :P A zoo worthy of an immortal rich man ;)
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Lyn Farel on 25 May 2013, 06:55
Eve MLP.

Owait, it has already happened.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 25 May 2013, 08:10
EVE/Spaceballs. Make it so.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 25 May 2013, 14:12
EVE/Moby Dick.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Ché Biko on 25 May 2013, 14:27
EVE/Rabbits
Don't know if it would work, really.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 25 May 2013, 15:44
EVE/Moby Dick.
The captain peered down the eyeglass into the gloom. There it was! His nemesis! The Moby Dick, its massive hull glittering in the moonlight. " Ahab gripped his 100mm harpoon tightly—CONCORD be damned, he would gank this Obelisk!


My next gankboat will be named "Call Me Ishmael" in honor of this.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Natalcya Katla on 25 May 2013, 17:02
EVE/Moby Dick.
The captain peered down the eyeglass into the gloom. There it was! His nemesis! The Moby Dick, its massive hull glittering in the moonlight. " Ahab gripped his 100mm harpoon tightly—CONCORD be damned, he would gank this Obelisk!


My next gankboat will be named "Call Me Ishmael" in honor of this.

+1
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 25 May 2013, 19:19
EVE / Classic Trek

The horror. The horror.


Also, on the far end of the scale: EVE / Redwall

SuVee discovers yet another resource-rich pre-industrial civilization, this one a little less explicable than most.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: kul Shaishi on 25 May 2013, 19:48
http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/eve-online-vs-star-trek.232826/
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 25 May 2013, 21:07
Heh. Good find, kul Shaishi.



Also: facing the last days of his regime, Tibus Heth turns in desperation to a mysterious traveling sellsword ...

Eve / Groo the Wanderer

Quote
A hero may be great or small,
But Groo is a Neanderthal
His fame has spread from sea to shining sea.

This much is undeniable:
He's totally reliable
If you have need of some catastrophe.

Give him a vase to polish it
In seconds he'll demolish it
And maybe wreck your home before he's through.

Give him the opportunity
To slay your whole community!
There's no one in the world who's quite like Groo.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: BloodBird on 30 May 2013, 18:17
EVE/Star Wars.

Galactic Empire has their Super Star Destroyers...

...capsuleers love to gank large, expensive shit.

And farming.

And we get to laugh at the horribly archaic laser/blaster tech the SW universe uses. Seriously, I would honestly argue that in, say, the Sith Empire vs Galactic Republic war the first faction to widely utilize Hybrid/Projectile tech would whoop the other in no time flat.

Also because SW is the reason so many ignorant people I've heard is absolutely sure we can't have space-able combat ships in at least 100 years because we don't have proper 'lazor' tech yet. I face-palm every time, but THAT particular topic is for another tread.

Anyhow, I'll be reading this later on, no time now, and I'd love to see a good EVE/SW crossover. Would be hilarious really.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 30 May 2013, 21:02
And we get to laugh at the horribly archaic laser/blaster tech the SW universe uses. Seriously, I would honestly argue that in, say, the Sith Empire vs Galactic Republic war the first faction to widely utilize Hybrid/Projectile tech would whoop the other in no time flat.

As a lore-tech enthusiast for Star Wars... seriously, wat?  :bash:
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Aria Jenneth on 30 May 2013, 22:27
Bloodbird, Star Wars' tech is intentionally "magical." It's not really comparable to Eve's. A few examples:

* It's been made plain in a place or two that blaster tech is not actually laser based; it's a sort of magical plasma-based weapon that, and this is weirdly important, is so inherently destructive that no medical application for the technology exists despite there being an entire species that is nigh-on obsessed with trying to find just such an application.

* Despite there being all kinds of research and engineering firms all over the Star Wars universe, the technology is so settled that ship designs change only incrementally over thousands of years. This despite the ready availability of mostly docile AI.

* Lightsabers. Just, y'know, in general.

It's a sword and sorcery setting with a coat of techno-paint. Does that make it higher tech? Lower? ... Um. Just kind of hard to compare, methinks.

I can only think that a crossover would result in the whole Blood Raider Covenant (and maybe a large percentage of capsuleers) flocking to sign up as minions of the Sith.

"You have dark powers? ACTUAL dark magical powers? OMG PLZ teach meeeeeee!"
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 30 May 2013, 22:33
Battlestar/EVE. I want to see the sentient Rogue Drones enter into philosophical debate with the Cylons. And then purge humanity from the cluster together.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Druur Monakh on 30 May 2013, 23:10
Argh, now I have flashbacks to various crossovers in alt.startrek.creative of yore.

*twitches*

Three-way fights between the Enterprise, a Star Destroyer, and the Battlestar Galactica. Maybe Space:1999 and the Borg thrown in for good measure as well.

*twitches*
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Arnulf Ogunkoya on 31 May 2013, 03:04
EVE/Transmetropolitan

Slightly tweaked to make Spider and the Filthy Assistants Federation medias. I think they would fit right in (and likely eat the Gutter Press for breakfast, sorry  :D).

I leave you to contemplate one of Spider's epic anti-clerical rants as applied to the kookier EVE religions. Also, I'm assuming the EVE Spider has properly earned Matari tatoos.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Utsukushi Shi on 31 May 2013, 05:46
+1 for Ulf. Given Spider's reality jumping history it really is not that hard of a stretch if you were a damn good writer.
Also Creep.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Anslol on 31 May 2013, 07:50
Eve/WH40k

Our asses, they'd be whooped.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: BloodBird on 31 May 2013, 08:05
Eve/WH40k

Our asses, they'd be whooped.

You mean theirs. Again, EVE tech trumphs anything the Imperium or anyone else could possibly throw at us.

Just for the lolz, I could argue quite well for this viewpoint if desired, but I'm sure it would be a silly waste of my time, arguing for the crossing of two make-believe universes fighting xD
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Anslol on 31 May 2013, 09:36
We move faster sure...but it'd just take them more time. All those marines...all that fire...PURGE THE HERETICS. PURGE EVERYTHING. FOR THE EMPEROR.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Creep on 31 May 2013, 09:41
Blade Runner/EVE. Set in either Gallente or Caldari space.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: BloodBird on 31 May 2013, 09:55
We move faster sure...but it'd just take them more time. All those marines...all that fire...PURGE THE HERETICS. PURGE EVERYTHING. FOR THE EMPEROR.

Space Marine fan-boy detected, not bothering.

J/K  :cube:

(But seriously, getting involved here would be both time-wasting and derailing, I'll avoid both for my own mental health's sake.)
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Anslol on 31 May 2013, 10:03
We move faster sure...but it'd just take them more time. All those marines...all that fire...PURGE THE HERETICS. PURGE EVERYTHING. FOR THE EMPEROR.

Space Marine fan-boy detected, not bothering.

J/K  :cube:

(But seriously, getting involved here would be both time-wasting and derailing, I'll avoid both for my own mental health's sake.)

Same. Just like to prod you :3
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Lyn Farel on 31 May 2013, 11:56
EVE/Star Wars.

Galactic Empire has their Super Star Destroyers...

...capsuleers love to gank large, expensive shit.

And farming.

And we get to laugh at the horribly archaic laser/blaster tech the SW universe uses. Seriously, I would honestly argue that in, say, the Sith Empire vs Galactic Republic war the first faction to widely utilize Hybrid/Projectile tech would whoop the other in no time flat.

Also because SW is the reason so many ignorant people I've heard is absolutely sure we can't have space-able combat ships in at least 100 years because we don't have proper 'lazor' tech yet. I face-palm every time, but THAT particular topic is for another tread.

Anyhow, I'll be reading this later on, no time now, and I'd love to see a good EVE/SW crossover. Would be hilarious really.

I should find a real source on this but all clues on what I have read so far is that slug throwers (projectile weapons, either rail or standard) are completely outdated and primitive weapons. What do you think the stormtroopers and other forces use their armor ? For cosmetics ? It may have been that way in the movies (ewoks with arrows trololo) but otherwise they are mostly impermeable to weapons other than blasters. I have also the impression that shields are nearly impossible to penetrate with weaponry other than "laser" (blaster). vOv
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: Katrina Oniseki on 31 May 2013, 20:46
Star wars ships operate on such ridiculous energy magnitudes that it makes our ships look like ancient triremes versus modern battleships. A single turbolaser can put out more energy than an entire Megathron's main reactor (15,500 MW). In fact, turbolaser energy has been rated in terawatts (TW), far removed from EVE powergrid's megawatts.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/tlc/Power/

Quote from: StarDestroyer.net
Of course, with the energy required to vaporise the asteroid (~250 terajoules), a turbolaser bolt must have on the order of 3750 terawatts of firepower. The energy released would be approximately 4 times more than that of the Hiroshima bomb.
Title: Re: eve Crossovers
Post by: BloodBird on 01 Jun 2013, 00:54
Star wars ships operate on such ridiculous energy magnitudes that it makes our ships look like ancient triremes versus modern battleships. A single turbolaser can put out more energy than an entire Megathron's main reactor (15,500 MW). In fact, turbolaser energy has been rated in terawatts (TW), far removed from EVE powergrid's megawatts.

http://www.stardestroyer.net/tlc/Power/

Quote from: StarDestroyer.net
Of course, with the energy required to vaporise the asteroid (~250 terajoules), a turbolaser bolt must have on the order of 3750 terawatts of firepower. The energy released would be approximately 4 times more than that of the Hiroshima bomb.

Do you *really* want to have a topic on this?

Make a new tread then. I'll be around when given enough time and I'll respond.