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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE Corporation and Alliance Development => Topic started by: Silas Vitalia on 01 May 2013, 09:11
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So, my little one-person corporation is part of a pirate alliance and coalition.
I've kept it one person because I've always been the CEO of any group I've been in, and I like being my own boss. It fits with Sabik RP very well, and I like doing 'my own thing' even though I'm part of a much larger group.
My alliance, while rolling their eyes and occasionally trolling me about this doesn't mind too much; I'm one of the main FC's for the alliance/coalition, I'm leading a lot of fleets and generally cheerleading and whipping the rank and file with cat o nine tails to get into fleets and get their asses moving when targets are spotted, handing out ships, etc.
Anyway I'm being pressured more lately to drop the one-person corp and just join one of the larger corps in the alliance in a leadership role to make some logistics easier with corp hangars, cap ships, etc.
I'm a bit torn because while this would make some things easier, I feel like I'd be giving up some identity and RP bona-fides.
I guess the question is does anyone even care about corp membership and what shows up on the ticker? I'd still be 'me' just with a different corp name.
:/
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I understand how you feel here, for me its definitely that I enjoy being my own boss, and running my own show. Having your own corporation if its just a 1 man corp, is at the end of the day, really about character flavour. It creates an image, but that's really all it does. If you care about that image, then it makes sense to have your own corp, if you don't care about that image, it seems rather pointless and trite. For me part of roleplaying is to put forward a certain perception, so the image obviously matters to me.
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I'd still be 'me' just with a different corp name.
Nobilita Nera is a great name and you should keep it.
I rest my case.
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That will be weird to see Silas as a henchman rather than her own boss.
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I guess the question is does anyone even care about corp membership and what shows up on the ticker? I'd still be 'me' just with a different corp name.
I completely get the way you're feeling here. Corp membership does affect character identity IMO. I'm in a similar situation to you, in that I have two Sansha-aligned characters who are both in the same Sansha-loyalist alliance, but neither of them are members of the by far dominant corporation (True Slave Foundations) within the alliance. Katla is still a member of the for all practical purposes derelict Naqam, while Ruby is in her own little one-person corp, Tomorrowland Orphanage.
Now, Katla would not really be an ideal fit for TS-F, and there's no real practical reason she should be, at least unless the TS-F leadership should decide to trim the ranks and cut Naqam free from the alliance. Ruby on the other hand, probably would be a good fit, and it would have practical benefits since she shares a base with TS-F, participates in roams, etc. And there's no real reason I couldn't still keep the orphanage in operation as a pure RP construct. It is something I have considered, and it might happen someday. But it would still feel weird and a bit sad to give up the one-man corp she's been in for pretty much the whole of her career.
I should mention that unlike in your case, I have had zero prodding, nagging or eye-rolling from any of the other alliance people about my special snowflake ways, and I absolutely love them for that.
So yeah, bottom line - if this change would make you uncomfortable, stick to Nobilita Nera. It sounds like you're doing great with Silas as it is.
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If the idea of changing corps and joining another does not bother you and you can see the merit in it, feel free to go ahead and try it. Could even put a holding-alt in it to keep the name for the future if you wish.
If the idea of changing corps and joining another makes you uneasy and bothers you because you feel you will lose something, then feel free to tell those pushing for you to change to go fuck themselves because there is no reason at all you should cave in to the requirements of others and do as THEY want at the expense of YOUR enjoyment of the game.
Always remember that and do what YOU want, because you pay for your own sub and you are responsible for your own entertainment. end of story, full stop.
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Welcome to my world. =/
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Read title and first couple lines.
Hoped for "should I open recruiting?"
To answer your question. If you're getting the fleets you want, with the RP identity you need. Why change? You have a prominent character, a notorious Sabik, and a former alliance head. It would seem like a step down to become just another employee.
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Recruitment is open on a case-by-case basis, step into any 'recruitment center' and we'll have a chat!
Oh, don't mind the instruments on the wall, and no, these restraints are just for show!
Seriously though I am going to be adding pilots, but this will be case-by-case.
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If the idea of changing corps and joining another does not bother you and you can see the merit in it, feel free to go ahead and try it. Could even put a holding-alt in it to keep the name for the future if you wish.
If the idea of changing corps and joining another makes you uneasy and bothers you because you feel you will lose something, then feel free to tell those pushing for you to change to go fuck themselves because there is no reason at all you should cave in to the requirements of others and do as THEY want at the expense of YOUR enjoyment of the game.
Always remember that and do what YOU want, because you pay for your own sub and you are responsible for your own entertainment. end of story, full stop.
Thanks for thoughts everyone. I think I'll stick with my corp for the time being and re-evaluate after I bring in some more pilots.
Bloodbird, while I appreciate where you are coming from, being in a leadership role for a lot of pilots occasionally means you have to put group needs ahead of personal needs. Streamlining organization can help a lot with corp hangars, ships, and unified fittings and assets, etc.
I certainly won't be telling my friends to go fuck themselves, though :)
When players have a 'my way or the highway' attitude it is a short short road to being a solo player.
One of my strongest points of pride in EVE is that although I am an absolute evil person IC and in PVP I'm generally regarded as one of the nicest and most helpful persons in my organizations. People (mostly) like being in my fleets and respect me as a mediator for inter-corp drama 'erry day. It's like being mother hen to a bunch of bickering children sometimes but I'm generally always regarded as the true neutral to calm people the fuck down over stupidity.
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After Makkal left 'Drakenburg,' I had her start her own, one-woman hauling/mining corp.* I too know the joy of being your own boss, though her RP bona fides are far fewer than Silas'.
1. It doesn't make sense for Silas to not be the HBIC.
2. Your corp window will be full of non-RP chatter.
3. You'll end up getting even more responsibilities. This is unavoidable. This might not be something you want.
*Sadly, no one ever wardocced me. :(
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I have to agree with Bloodbird. But, if you do choose to join a corporation for OOC reasons, stating your case clearly can get enough handwavium so you should have no IC problems. Still, I agree when you say that being a corp leaders means putting the good of the group first, "been there, donde that, bought the t-shirt". It's nice, and great to see something built up, but it also requires a lot of effort, searching for the medium grounds, working, etc.
Welcome to my world. =/
We don't pressure you to join us! But you should join PIE, though... :P
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Ah, I should have been clearer that my day to day would be no different, in that I am already performing all of those functions currently (leadership roles).
Mostly an identity / bookkeeping / organization sort of thing.
+10 special snowflake RP shields activate!
Friendly Inter-Alliance Troll Damage reduced by 50%
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You should never let others dictate your RP, a lesson I've learned the hard way.
If you want to keep the identity of Silas Vitalia through her one man corp, do so.
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Fuck other people. Do what thou wilt shalt be the whole of the law. Go forth and roar, proud space vampire! <3 :yar:
PS. Or you could be extra fantastic and join URIEL <3
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I certainly won't be telling my friends to go fuck themselves, though :)
There are many different ways to say this. Directly is just, the direct approach. I should likely have made that more clear. (Meaning "no, I won't join you, I'll build my own corp"for starters.)
I'm glad to hear you will keep the corp though and that you will be recruiting. We need more Blooders out there to make the enemies of the Empires more diverse, can't just have angels out there you know.
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Having been an RL leader for a while, in the sense of being a Company Officer in the Fire Service, not a Tony Robbins "business leader" type -- I have to disagree on the "put the group before yourself always" line, for two simple reasons:
1) Most directly applicable to this particular situation: this is a game we're talking about, not a real-life business. It's supposed to be FUN, and if you're constantly putting your own wants and needs aside for others, that's generally not fun, and it's mentally and emotionally draining! ...unless perhaps you're one of those masochistic types that enjoys that sorta thing. Being a Sansha loyalist, that would follow, so, in that case, have at it. :lol:
2) In a more general sense: Many people paint "leading a group" as this false dichotomy between the group's needs/wants/goals and your own personal needs/wants/goals, and that those two must always somehow be incompatible and in "competition". If you "get" 40% what you "want", that only leaves 60% for the group, so to speak. The truth is that the dynamic I just described leaves out one important aspect: the needs/wants/goals of the other individuals in the group, that may be aligned with, or contrary to, the group's overall goals.
In reality, there is no dichotomy, the group dynamic is in fact a tripod, and being good sci-fi geeks, you know that "a tripod is the most unstable of political structures." 8)
How do you balance those aspects? That's a personal decision only you can make. However, the best place to start is figure out what your own personal goals and priorities are, what the group's goals and priorities are, and what the goals and priorities are of the other major players who comprise the group. Then, figure out where they all align and overlap, and count your blessings if they are many, because that reduces your workload greatly.
For the remainder, give and take is required, and how much you are willing to give or take in order to meet the middle, is the very question that most of us spend our entire lives answering.
Hope that halps a lil bit. ;)
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I never roleplay based on my corporation affiliations. If people ask, I'll of course answer accordingly, but it's nothing I volunteer. Mostly because the corporations I'm in have nothing to do with the RP community. Do what you feel is right and won't diminish the enjoyment of the game for you.
No hard feelings about the past.
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There's alot in a name.
If you don't believe me, whisper the words "Ubiqua Seraph" softly into Graelyn's ear over and over.
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There's alot in a name.
If you don't believe me, whisper the words "Ubiqua Seraph" softly into Graelyn's ear over and over.
No, whisper his own (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=3940.msg71130#msg71130) name into his ear over and over.
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That will be weird to see Silas as a henchman rather than her own boss.
I know I may be a bit late to the party, but....SO MUCH THIS!!!!!!!!
Next to John you are one of the best bosses I've had in EVE, and it just seems wrong not seeing you in charge of your own corp. I would rather see you strike out on your own and build some sabik stuff than join another corp just because they want you too, but thats my stance so in reality do what adds up to more fun for you.
On a side note I would actually love to see you take the whole sabik thing and run with it, just cause I know from experience that you would do one hell of a job with it.
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On a side note I would actually love to see you take the whole sabik thing and run with it, just cause I know from experience that you would do one hell of a job with it.
This.... :)
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*Stops daydreaming about the possibilities of John/Silas creating a empire of evil and destruction*
I would stick with the name myself.
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Ya'll are sweet.
Sticking with it for now, thanks for opinions.
....Sabik Victor!
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*Stops daydreaming about the possibilities of John/Silas creating a empire of evil and destruction*
Don't dream it, be it.