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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => EVE OOC Summit => Topic started by: Katrina Oniseki on 17 Jan 2013, 11:46
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Okay, so, you're all gagging at the title. Geez Kat, can't you pick something with less ponies and hugging?
Nope! See, I've noticed a trend that likely has been here since EVE RolePlay first started, will be here long after this thread, and isn't even unique to EVE RP. Well, here's the thing that I have noticed:
EVE is a terrible dystopian place.
Oh my gosh! Kat discovered something amazing! We should all give her katnip. No, see... what I'm getting at is that a lot of us roleplay our characters with a mild form of method acting. When our characters feel sadness, or rage, or malice, or joy... many of us tend to feel the same. For myself, some of the most believable moments in roleplay are when I'm experiencing and fabricating the same emotions as Katrina.
Just last night, I held two very powerful RP sessions, where Katrina was expressing her grief at the loss of Simca. I was actually moved to tears, sniffling and wiping my eyes in both of them. I actually almost broke out in sobbing during one of them until I realized how powerfully the emotions were hitting and laughed it off.
In other interactions, Katrina will get so angry about something that really doesn't bother me, that even I will need to walk away from the computer. Joyful moments with her are shared by myself, where I'm moved to butterflies in my stomach and bouncing in my seat.
Okay Kat, so you're a big softie. What's your point?
My point is that deep down, I think a lot of us forget and lose track of the unique power we have. Unlike in reality, where we often lack the self control to just put the brakes on our emotions. We lack the ability to simply pause real life and say, "I'm not going to get mad at this." Kudos to you if you have mastered this ability, but many of us have not.
In roleplaying, we have this ability, and we all need to remember to use it more often when bleedover starts. I see a lot of people getting up in arms just from roleplay. Even myself. So, to the point of this post, I'm begging and reminding my fellow roleplayers to try and keep an eye on what they say to others OOC due to roleplay. Remember that what happens to our characters is not happening to us.
This is, in the end, just a game. We're all just trying to write a big fat book together, and while we may come to blows about OOC issues... we should at least try not to get upset and be mean to each other about things that happen to our characters.
Let's all try to get along out of game, and save the bile for our characters' IC moments.
:cube:
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+1.
Arguments and strife aren't without merit, but can be had on every corner. Genuine interest and validation are rare as diamonds and addictive as crack. Just a thought.
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:cube: Back, and +1'd.
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-1 Grimdark for OP
8)
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:cube:
♥ Kat
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-1 Grimdark for OP
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"Let the hate flow through you, Oniseki. Like your blood, come to think of it." - S.V.
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Hate leads to the dark side. The dark side has all the cool powers.
+1
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Tricky thing to do, but damned essential.
Back in my halcyon days as a college LARPer, most of the troupe used to go out for coffee after game, en mass, at Sherry's or something and kind of wind down. Hanging out OOC and being social helps keep IC hatreds and rivalries from sinking their teeth in OOC.
... And even there, it still happened. When I first started dating the girl would I later marry, one of the other LARPers phoned up my beloved's ex-boyfriend, knowing full well that he was on deployment in Japan, to tell him that he had to come back right away to rescue her from this terrible, wicked person who had seduced her.
I was playing a corruption-worshipping Follower of Set at the time, which may have had something to do with it. Also, the fellow player who did the calling was crazier than average.
The reason I mention this is because we have no way of going out for coffee, or even, usually, of seeing one another's faces, so it's pretty easy to start to conflate the person at the keyboard with the character on the screen. The closest we have is Backstage, here, with its rules on courtesy..
Which is a pretty damn nifty and important thing, now I think about it.
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But, but, but, Im afraid that if im not a petty, ego-driven, passive-aggressive griefer at heart, then I will lose all interest in EVE and be unable to relate to its population! :cry:
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+1
Experienced the same things. :)
When in doubt, ask oocly before getting up in arms.
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There are times where I truly wish to engage a fellow roleplay corp ICly in a grueling conflict that would threaten one of the two corps with capitulation and disband. But then I remind myself "Wait, the roleplay community is already small enough. We don't need less RPers around". Thus, I agree with the OP and think it would be beneficial if we all thought, every day after an IC conflict that may bleedover into OOC, "How boring would my space-life be without this person to clash against IC?". So let's all be friends and have space-coffee OOC while violencing each other's boats and (perhaps even more importantly) egos. No matter how much we may want to chop each other's heads off IC, it's quite important to keep things civil OOC so that we may have more pixelated heads to cheap off and have fun with in the future. Because who wants to even interact with someone who hates them OOC? No one.
Eternal cheesy anime-style frenemies and rivalries! Gogo!
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Agreed with more or less everything said so far. So +10000!
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Confirming Aria is evil.
Also hi, bye, and +1. :3
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Eternal cheesy anime-style frenemies and rivalries! Gogo!
Thought about posting some really terrible, seizure-inducing anime GIF, but don't want to be sued at this stage in my life. :D
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One of the reasons why we step on vendettas that are dragged onto backstage pretty hard where we detect them.
Also, very much true.
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There are times where I truly wish to engage a fellow roleplay corp ICly in a grueling conflict that would threaten one of the two corps with capitulation and disband. But then I remind myself "Wait, the roleplay community is already small enough. We don't need less RPers around". Thus, I agree with the OP and think it would be beneficial if we all thought, every day after an IC conflict that may bleedover into OOC, "How boring would my space-life be without this person to clash against IC?". So let's all be friends and have space-coffee OOC while violencing each other's boats and (perhaps even more importantly) egos. No matter how much we may want to chop each other's heads off IC, it's quite important to keep things civil OOC so that we may have more pixelated heads to cheap off and have fun with in the future. Because who wants to even interact with someone who hates them OOC? No one.
Eternal cheesy anime-style frenemies and rivalries! Gogo!
(http://i.imgur.com/sGsPl.png)
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Tricky thing to do, but damned essential.
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The reason I mention this is because we have no way of going out for coffee, or even, usually, of seeing one another's faces, so it's pretty easy to start to conflate the person at the keyboard with the character on the screen. The closest we have is Backstage, here, with its rules on courtesy..
Which is a pretty damn nifty and important thing, now I think about it.
This is one reason I am grateful for, and usually try to attend, the London pub meets. It's difficult to get real OOC rage built up against the Imperials when they have done their best to get you wasted on tequila.
That said. IC Arnulf tends to try for a zen-like approach to conflict. He feels that getting angry will only make him careless.
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Psyops, propaganda and flame wars are not good for the community?
Who would have guessed?
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Everything said is true and win.
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I love most of you OOC but that does not mean I won't ruin your lives in game. Game is the important word. The two are different things.
If I had a friendly character then there would be tea and cookies on the regular.
My character is a bastard so as they say "prepare to die!"
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Oh, indeed. I will kill juuust about everyone here for fun and glory and all.
I will offer hugs oocly though!
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*hands Kat some Katnip despite her protestations* First one is free.
Seriously though, it can be worthwhile checking yourself before you hit 'Post' - it is incredibly difficult to firewall your characters emotions from your own, especially given the effort we make to play our characters as believably as possible.
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I'd be far more likely to formulate a terrible impression of someone from the ignorant crap they say in OOC channels than their roleplay behavior.
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There are people that assume that when a character expresses a contrary opinion IC, that there was an OOC motive for making that opinion, and only an OOC motive.
This usually causes such things as conversation-spamming, and accusations in the "OOC" channel, about people "ruining rp".
Example:
Character belonging to group A is talking about something.
Character belonging to group B, criticises the conversation.
A and B have been established in EVE PF as being hostile to each other.
And yet, character A, tries to paint character B as having OOC motivations, and claims B is "ruining RP".
This idea that B should only engage IC enemies in a consensual-RP fashion, I believe is also damaging to the wider RP community.