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EVE-Online RP Discussion and Resources => CCP Public Library => Topic started by: hellgremlin on 25 Jul 2012, 17:58
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It seems some industrious chap noticed a visible change in the Promised Land wormhole opened by Sansha.
He also posted something I hadn't heard before: that complex fullerene shards (CFS) might have something to do with accessing said wormhole. Apparently, CFS have been found in the wrecks of downed Sansha motherships in incursions.
Now... see, I want to get all excited about this again, like how I got excited for Arek'Jalaan... and imagine that CCP has actually added some kind of content involving using CFS as a "key" to unlock otherwise inaccessible wormholes...
... but honestly, I don't believe they care about the storyline enough to do that sort of thing. Especially after DropBear's departure from fiction-land.
What do y'all think?
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Just to clarify, the CFS were dropped from live event motherships, and do not appear in Kundalini or Uroborus drops.
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The Promised Land wormhole graphic was updated in the last patch, for reasons unclear. I am curious to see if the Angel Epic Arc Sansha Wormholes have changed as well, the graphic was very out of date and somewhat jarring in the current graphical environment.
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Can you link one of the killmails where the Revenant dropped CFS?
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Just to clarify, the CFS were dropped from live event motherships, and do not appear in Kundalini or Uroborus drops.
As I remember a Jovian Admiral dropped some in the early years too.
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Just to clarify, the CFS were dropped from live event motherships, and do not appear in Kundalini or Uroborus drops.
As I remember a Jovian Admiral dropped some in the early years too.
The primary source of the shards was when a Jovian Ambassador got vaporized by a teleporter accident, sending the shards all over the universe. To my knowledge nothing dropped by Ouria remained in the game because illegal items were part of the loot drop.
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... but honestly, I don't believe they care about the storyline enough to do that sort of thing. Especially after DropBear's departure from fiction-land.
What do y'all think?
I don't always think you're right.
But I think you're right.
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Nice work by Faulx; pretty much the only A'J torchbearer left. :|
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... but honestly, I don't believe they care about the storyline enough to do that sort of thing. Especially after DropBear's departure from fiction-land.
What do y'all think?
This is untrue, no matter how many times people repeat it, especially as CCP has recently reconstituted a storyline team under the direction of TorfiFrans (as reported by Delegate Zero during the ATX broadcast).
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Ah, I did not know there was a team back in action.
Still, it feels like the fiction guys are doing fiction on their off-hours while concentrating on other things. And missing a lot in the process.
I mean look at this:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Idonis_Ardishapur
The page for Idonis Ardishapur lists Ezzara IV and Arzad II as separate and different planets, stating that the orbital bombardment extermination of the Starkmanir occurred on the former, while the Outcast colony lies on the latter. AFAIK Starkman Prime = Arzad II, and I'm not sure where Ezzara IV even came from.
Where are the galaxy-shattering, Seyllin-scale mega events? Where are the awesome videos of capital ships crashing into stations? I want space opera, but instead I'm getting space downtempo. Space chillout mixes.
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Ah, I did not know there was a team back in action.
Still, it feels like the fiction guys are doing fiction on their off-hours while concentrating on other things. And missing a lot in the process.
I mean look at this:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Idonis_Ardishapur
The page for Idonis Ardishapur lists Ezzara IV and Arzad II as separate and different planets, stating that the orbital bombardment extermination of the Starkmanir occurred on the former, while the Outcast colony lies on the latter. AFAIK Starkman Prime = Arzad II, and I'm not sure where Ezzara IV even came from.
From the looks of the page history, someone in ISD (Mercury?) tidied up Publius' article in November last year. Seems like the Ezzara error was entered at that point.
The Starkmanir (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Starkmanir) and Starkman Prime (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Starkman_Prime) articles seem to be correct, so what you're saying is that CCP's newly-reformed storyline team, instead of getting to sorting out the stuff that needs to be sorted out, should have gone through everything to catch a single planet name error in a semi-stub article for a minor historical character that was introduced six months ago?
I really wish CCP would dedicate that sort of resources to fiction, but at this point it's really nit-picking.
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It was just an example I spotted that bugged me.
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Ah, I did not know there was a team back in action.
Still, it feels like the fiction guys are doing fiction on their off-hours while concentrating on other things. And missing a lot in the process.
I mean look at this:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Idonis_Ardishapur
The page for Idonis Ardishapur lists Ezzara IV and Arzad II as separate and different planets, stating that the orbital bombardment extermination of the Starkmanir occurred on the former, while the Outcast colony lies on the latter. AFAIK Starkman Prime = Arzad II, and I'm not sure where Ezzara IV even came from.
From the looks of the page history, someone in ISD (Mercury?) tidied up Publius' article in November last year. Seems like the Ezzara error was entered at that point.
The Starkmanir (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Starkmanir) and Starkman Prime (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Starkman_Prime) articles seem to be correct, so what you're saying is that CCP's newly-reformed storyline team, instead of getting to sorting out the stuff that needs to be sorted out, should have gone through everything to catch a single planet name error in a semi-stub article for a minor historical character that was introduced six months ago?
I really wish CCP would dedicate that sort of resources to fiction, but at this point it's really nit-picking.
Oh.... ehm... yeah... I had many open construction sites on the wiki. When you start it is most of the time more work than you think; and it is hard to do next to something else (work, mining. transport, POS stuff etc...). As I havent Idonis listed on my contribution page (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Contributions_by_Publius_Valerius), is most likely the reason that I forgot him or not looked up from time to time. Maybe make a comment on the talk page about the stuff which bother you.....
As for the other articles.... Starkman Prime and other stuff.... If I remember right had the past wiki team (pre immersion-project) the YARR, Wyke, me and many others a discussion.... about the topic Starkman Homeworld, because there were different mention... form ingame iteams, over chronicles, the a really old timeline chart, and many other questions... sadly I forgot the talk page.... or it ovewirtten (over save). So all in all, the Starkman where already a problem case, which never got really sorted out (and their use in TEA highlighted this errors.... maybe one good thing about the book). So back to the topic, everything which is in the wiki now isnt translated everywhere, most likely there are sides/complex in eve with old discreptions or some iteams which have still the old describtion.
Sadly Im to lazy to search right now.... so I have add some links, from categorys which I had made in my old times, where I was more activ on the wiki, maybe you will find the ansers/questions you seek. Or maybe even the talk pages.... if later, plz add a link, because I think Wyke or some other player had add a full list with all ingame infos form wiki over missions over to mission rats from http://eveinfo.com. So there were alot of conflicting/inconsistent infos already in the past, and will still be in the present.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Hand_of_Arzad
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Amarr_Trade_Goods
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Minmatar_Trade_Goods
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Category:Ammatar_Trade_Goods
... but honestly, I don't believe they care about the storyline enough to do that sort of thing. Especially after DropBear's departure from fiction-land.
What do y'all think?
This is untrue, no matter how many times people repeat it, especially as CCP has recently reconstituted a storyline team under the direction of TorfiFrans (as reported by Delegate Zero during the ATX broadcast).
Was always a torfi fan.... http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=3334 He had save Wilbur ;).
Nice work by Faulx; pretty much the only A'J torchbearer left. :|
He is one of the few which I see in the update page on the wiki.... :(
Edit: Totally forgot there was also something with the planet it was gas or barren ingame, which had mean that the number was wrong.... but it is so long I already forget to half which I know about the Ammatars etc.... :(
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... but honestly, I don't believe they care about the storyline enough to do that sort of thing. Especially after DropBear's departure from fiction-land.
What do y'all think?
I don't always think you're right.
But I think you're right.
Ehm... If I remember right is Abraxas currently on the Dust site to add there some new infos, I think there will dropping some stuff to us.
I also know how sadly it sounds, even if I wrote it. But dont forget breadcrumb is also something to eat :P (just joking). I think that after Dust 514 and hopefuly gets it CCP some cash early and alot so that they can bump up some teams. I think currently is it a transitional time, where CCP (which is a medium size company) has just to much on his to do list, that "minior" things arent in the focus right now. So overall Im happy the AT X was nice (and that PL lost). That we have a new chron and that there is still work on the fiction side, like the Khanid II page. It is all step by step, and I have experienced some stuff can be more time consuming than you thing first [remember a player - Victor - which had wanted to add all certifacts to the wiki, but I sadly It was a bigger task than it looks].
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Clarified the exact location of Starkman Prime, which was previously implied to have been variously in Minmatar or Amarr space. The planet’s location was cemented in the Arzad system, and references added to Chronicle “Khumaak” to make it clear the system once belonged to the Minmatar but that it had changed hands at the time the Chronicle took place. Reference also added to Chronicle “The Outcast” that Arzad is currently a disputed border zone.
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This is untrue, no matter how many times people repeat it, especially as CCP has recently reconstituted a storyline team under the direction of TorfiFrans (as reported by Delegate Zero during the ATX broadcast).
Wait, Torfi's now in charge of storyline!?
Best news I've heard in years!
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All - The explanation for this is pretty simple, and sadly is all rooted in A'J, not actual story action.
I spent a lot of time photographing wormholes for Project Catapult (http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Project_Catapult), specifically to find ol' Kuvakei. Of course, the Promised Land wormhole being what it is, it was the most interesting. CCP had a default background they used for every "generic" icon, and they also used whatever system that was, presumably somewhere in Jove-land, for their default snaps and their launch points for Live Event invasions.
When Crucible rolled around and the nebulae changed, I filed a comment or a bug somewhere, damn if I can find it, saying that there was one nebula they forgot - the one in Sansha's wormhole. It still had the old pre-Crucible graphics.
I dropped my sub shortly after, but the bug remained on file, and showed up as fixed in the latest release. Mark726 of EVE Travel, collaborator with Faulx on A'J Project Compass and me on A'J Project Tesseract, helped me out and flew out there to check.
21 Jun mark726 @webspaceships
From patch notes: "The wormhole graphic in the Promised Land system has been altered." cc @EVE_Rhavas #eveonline #tweetfleet
25 Jun mark726 @webspaceships
Iiiiinteresting. Violent Wormhole in Promised Land now only shows galactic disk in background. No nebulae. cc @EVE_Rhavas
So... it's possible that we might have some info on where Kuvakei is hiding at last. But it's also possible that this is CCP's new dumbed-down generic background.
If it's Fade, I'd also submit that Faulx is looking in the wrong place. He needs to look at A0 systems - namely K4YZ-Y (it would be very interesting to see the Abandoned Battlefield in this system) and FI01-8.
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The 'default background' was the Caldari Nebulae from early EVE launch. The same nebulae was present in the portraits of the original Caldari ship backgrounds. To my knowledge the Jovian nebulae has never been used, not even in the Jovian ship portraits (which also used the Caldari background IIRC).
I'm not sure where Fade came into the equation, as the lack of any solar nebulae means whatever is on the otherside of the wormhole could be anywhere in the universe. Or inside a massive superstructure hangar?
Edit ; I stand corrected, they used the Jovian nebulae in the original Jovian ship portraits.
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/9507/20060825084258gv7.png
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This is untrue, no matter how many times people repeat it, especially as CCP has recently reconstituted a storyline team under the direction of TorfiFrans (as reported by Delegate Zero during the ATX broadcast).
Wait, Torfi's now in charge of storyline!?
Best news I've heard in years!
Maybe... AFAIK Torfi was also the "creative" mind behind Incarna.
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Maybe... AFAIK Torfi was also the "creative" mind behind Incarna.
The problem with Incarna wasn't in it's vision. It was in implementation... but don't get me started on that. ;)