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Title: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Casiella on 20 Jun 2012, 14:13
Anybody here play this? I've been considering getting into it. I understand it's one of the few games more complex (and darker!) than EVE.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Louella Dougans on 20 Jun 2012, 14:41
Yes.

it is amusing.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Jev North on 20 Jun 2012, 14:52
The interface is also more gratingly painful and confusing than EVE. (Yes, it's possible.) Initially, anyway. After a while, you just see blonde, brunette, redhead..
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Desiderya on 20 Jun 2012, 15:39
It is nice. I'm having a DF binge whenever a new version releases.
If you're not afraid of reading a lot in the df wiki until you get a grip on the game - go ahead, it's one of a kind. ;)
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 21 Jun 2012, 19:56
Aside from the horribly confusing interface, it's actually an incredibly fun game.


I've been told the interface is part of the charm, though, so vOv
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Ghost Hunter on 22 Jun 2012, 13:15
Losing is Fun.

Remember this always.

Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Casiella on 22 Jun 2012, 13:35
What's your favorite tileset, people?
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Jev North on 22 Jun 2012, 13:41
Extended ASCII.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Casiella on 22 Jun 2012, 14:23
I got the Ironhand graphics set but can't figure out how to install it. And since I'm running under Linux, I can't just use the bundled version with it.

Will attack all this again tonight or this weekend.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Desiderya on 23 Jun 2012, 14:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESNRQFEzirA&feature=relmfu


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmg1lHBO-IE&feature=relmfu


Digged that stuff out again - and found that a second one was made.
Edit:
From here: http://www.bravemule.com/
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Vikarion on 26 Jun 2012, 21:15
Ok, so I decided to see if I could learn this. I'm using the Phoebus tileset (because, seriously, I hate ASCII), and I'm on my second fortress with it. I abandoned my first fort once I learned the ropes.

So...how are things going? Well, I have 30-40 dwarves, and most of them are ecstatically happy. That's the good side. The bad sides...well, I decided - after getting hit by child-napper after child-napper - to completely seal my base from the surface. (I have iron and plenty of wood by this point.) So, about 10-20 minutes after I do that, a Goblin army shows up. Ok, good timing, I think. Then a forgotten beast shows up, and it's made of fire. He immediately burns down almost every tree left outside. Then he burns up the Goblin army. I'm afraid to go out.

Then my dwarves started getting really thirsty, because for some reason my "repeat task" on the stills canceled. So I opened up access to an underground reservoir, and then accidentally trapped most of my dwarves in the mud. :s Fortunately, I got to them in time. Oh, and I'm pretty sure there's a vampire somewhere in my fort.

And yet, my dwarves are still ecstatically happy. My theory is that the fungus growing on the floor of my fort is drugging them. Or maybe its my penchant for statues and tons of food. In any case, we cannot get out, so we're going deeper.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Desiderya on 27 Jun 2012, 04:44
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Then a forgotten beast shows up, and it's made of fire. He immediately burns down almost every tree left outside. Then he burns up the Goblin army. I'm afraid to go out.

:DwarfFortress:
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Milo Caman on 27 Jun 2012, 04:48
I've never been able to get into DF, but I recommend that everyone who hasn't read the saga of Boatmurdered (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/). I was crying with laughter for a good hour the first time I read it.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Jev North on 27 Jun 2012, 04:56
Damn it, Milo. scooped.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Graanvlokkie on 27 Jun 2012, 05:55
I've never been able to get into DF, but I recommend that everyone who hasn't read the saga of Boatmurdered (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/). I was crying with laughter for a good hour the first time I read it.

After reading a good portion of that site I am now going to get this game.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Milo Caman on 27 Jun 2012, 06:21
Damn it, Milo. scooped.

Wait what?
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Casiella on 27 Jun 2012, 09:00
I picked up the new Getting Started with Dwarf Fortress book from O'Reilly, which contains a lot of the same info as the wiki but seems better presented.

Also, this falls in line with my theory that many gamers - including many of us - are less focused on MMORPGs or even science fiction and more on sandbox gameplay, because this scratches a lot of the same itches as Minecraft and reading EVE stories. In fact, the author of GSWDF is an EVE player and has blogged extensively about it.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Desiderya on 27 Jun 2012, 09:58
If you liked boatmurdered you're going to like the Saga of Gemclod (http://gemclod.goondorfs.net/) as well.
It references Boatmurdered, too.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Louella Dougans on 29 Jun 2012, 16:22
most of the time, the main industry in my fort becomes stitching images onto clothes taken from dead goblins and selling these clothes to the trade caravans.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Casiella on 30 Jun 2012, 18:08
I was doing fine selling rock crafts and toys from my second fortress. A legendary miner / stonecrafter had been killed by a vampire, but otherwise no real problems. Food production was going well, military pwned a minotaur and some goblins... then a dragon landed. My last soldier (an accidental recruit, no less) killed it with her spear in the hospital after it devastated my entire top level. We started to rebuild, but a goblin ambush followed by a siege depleted us too much. Eventually we drove off the cackling invaders, but miasma and grief just overwhelmed my poor little dwarves.

On the plus side, I want to go mine in EVE now. ;)
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Louella Dougans on 01 Jul 2012, 01:55
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Welcome to Dwarf Fortress, where there is a fine line between insanity and gameplay. The line menaces with spikes of obsessive compulsion.

is a quote I saw on a different forum.


my current fort has a population of 126, down from a high of 243, after we invaded and destroyed the underworld. It is the year 1085.

There are some 3000+ dead goblins on the units list.

One of the statues in the fort is of sth like: "Osbu Grimstrangle the goblin and Ironlicked the dog. Osbu Grimstrangle is making a plaintive gesture, Ironlicked is laughing. The artwork relates to the killing of the goblin Osbu Grimstrangle by the dog Ironlicked during the 4th Attempted Abduction in 1057"

it is o.O at times.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Gottii on 01 Jul 2012, 10:13
I've never been able to get into DF, but I recommend that everyone who hasn't read the saga of Boatmurdered (http://lparchive.org/Dwarf-Fortress-Boatmurdered/). I was crying with laughter for a good hour the first time I read it.

After reading a good portion of that site I am now going to get this game.

This.
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: Casiella on 01 Jul 2012, 10:16
Protip: don't dig way down into hidden caverns until you have a decent military. >_>
Title: Re: Dwarf Fortress
Post by: BloodBird on 01 Jul 2012, 10:33
"A few more war dogs ran out and attacked. I have to say I'm slightly terrified by them. One of the bitches actually gave birth while she was attacking, and her puppies joined in on the carnage. At the end of the day, the three mandrills were dead, and they took one war dog with them and injured another one and a puppy."

Born on the battlefield indeed. :eek: :lol:

Conan the barbarian has nothing on these dogs.