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Title: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 21 May 2012, 12:44
Seeing if there is any interest for this: A Amarrian Industrial Corp, high / low sec.  Loyal to the Empire and its core values. 

Khanid Solutions:

For centuries, Amarr has stood as the pinnacle civilization in New Eden, it is we who have pioneered, built, and maintained the greatest Empire that has ever been known. 

However, today my brothers and sisters, I do not come to speak to you of our glories past, but of our current situation.

As I walked through the Emperor Family Academy in Amarr Prime, I looked through the viewports at our factories, and what did I see?  The mighty robotic and human arms piecing together a Rifter class frigate, built with Caldari minerals.  And this is not a isolated incident, all over the Empire, foreign goods, built by foreign peoples, and built with foreign minerals are saturating our markets.  Our sovereignty is called into question, not by force of arms but through our economy. 

Our economy, once the envy of the cluster, now slowly being overtaken by the Gallente and Minmatar, and far outstripped by the burgeoning Caldari hubs!

But we are not beaten!  We are not dismayed!  No my brothers and sisters we are ready!  Ready to strike back, ready to turn the full force of the Amarrian economy back to its former glory.  I make a call to all devout Amarrians, true to the faith and our cause, to lend their aid to revitalizing our economy!  I make a call for you to join us, Khanid Solutions, in helping to further this goal!  I make a call for all Amarrian industrialists, miners, researchers, and far flung patriots, to return home!  Your Empire needs you!

edit: This is of course a work in progress :) and I welcome feedback!
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Valadeus on 21 May 2012, 13:18
It's certainly a neat idea. Is this intended to be an RP corp or is it primarily just a background write-up to why the corp was formed with no intention of RP?
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 21 May 2012, 13:19
Its intended to be a rp corp, rp for us industrialists :) the writeup is why its formed, but no, it will continue to be rp.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Aldrith Shutaq on 21 May 2012, 13:25
Finally, someone I can get ships from!

We'll talk IC and once you guys get established you can count on KotMC as being a customer. We will also protect you from any agressors. I also have an indy alt I've been working on and I may put her in your corp.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 21 May 2012, 13:35
Khanid Solutions Interview, a ingame chat that will be our recruitment channel :) if anyone wants to join in and tlak about it.  I'm awaiting corp stasis to join my corp :( its a odd thing.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Valadeus on 21 May 2012, 15:06
My only recommendation in that case, is to remember that the economy of the Empire is strongly based on slave labor (foreign people). Would your corporation be supportive of using slave labor or would it be trying to get Amarr and non-slaves to get involved in construction? (Or both)
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 21 May 2012, 15:22
To my understanding, slave labor is both a necessity to the Empire, and a form of education to non-believers.  So in this case yes, slaves would be used in factories, such is our culture.  They wouldn't be farmers, or unskilled laborers, so educated slaves, but slaves none the less.

Amarrians don't have to treat slaves poorly though, so well treated slaves, but again... slaves.... sorry :(

edit: As far as would we advocate amarrians work on our projects?  Of course, employee our Amarrian brothers and sisters, as overseers, supervisors, builders, engineers, anything at all.  Would slaves be substituted in?  Of course, but they are owned slaves by fellow Amarrians, so its not so much a foreign good as a domestic one still (horrible as it is to say)

Unless someone can tell me different.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Syagrius on 21 May 2012, 16:31
It is a very good idea and I think fills a need.  Having said that, get ready industrial RP can be a lonely road.  Some of us are trying the same thing surrounding Federation industrial RP.  If you don’t mind dealing with godless heretics I am sure there is a soulless capitalist or three in the Federation that would love to have under the table access to the Imperial market.  Best of luck!
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Valadeus on 21 May 2012, 17:31
To my understanding, slave labor is both a necessity to the Empire, and a form of education to non-believers.  So in this case yes, slaves would be used in factories, such is our culture.  They wouldn't be farmers, or unskilled laborers, so educated slaves, but slaves none the less.

Amarrians don't have to treat slaves poorly though, so well treated slaves, but again... slaves.... sorry :(

edit: As far as would we advocate amarrians work on our projects?  Of course, employee our Amarrian brothers and sisters, as overseers, supervisors, builders, engineers, anything at all.  Would slaves be substituted in?  Of course, but they are owned slaves by fellow Amarrians, so its not so much a foreign good as a domestic one still (horrible as it is to say)

Unless someone can tell me different.

You really don't need to apologize to me, :D! I'm just asking questions to help you work out any details you may not have worked out. I currently play an Amarr Holder, the kind that actually keeps slaves so yeah...
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 21 May 2012, 19:36
You might also want to talk to Lucius Vindictus and the"Khanid Trade Syndicate" alliance. They don't RP as much as they used to but might be a useful ally (or financial opponent).

 
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 21 May 2012, 21:38
Hmmm I haven't heard of them, but I'll be sure to try and get in contact in the next few days.  Right now the big question is, "Are other races allowed in" I'm trying to find more information on how the Amarr view the reclaimed... in the book Templar One, the treatment of Doctor Gable seems to imply once reclaimed there is a full acceptance, but need more info :(
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: orange on 21 May 2012, 22:25
I will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have about Industrial RP.

An important part of RPing Industry is to realize that every capsuleer is effectively an industrial manager.  The corporation's role is to coordinate and deconflict activities.  The corporation needs to focus on enabling its members activities.  Things like BPO Libraries, readily available Copy Labs, etc are means by which a corporation can help a former solo industrialist grow.

You shouldn't have "slave" characters - slaves are the ones working on the planets and in the labs and factories.  Use your naming, Khanid Solutions, to avoid the question of why you might have a Gallente trader, Detesis Scientist, and Matari Engineer in your corporation.  They are experts in their fields and are willing to support the Empire and faith at a price.  Perhaps there are daily readings that they have to put up with or they must speak with a priest about how their faith is developing, but you will not get non-Amarrian capsuleers to join if you are going to treat them as "slaves."
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 21 May 2012, 22:38
Oh, I never meant to imply slave characters (capsuleers) were on the table o.o I'm sorry if I did.  I simply meant what is the view of a converted Caldari/Gallente/....Minmatar? in the eyes of a Amarrian, are they granted citizenship if they want it?  Would it be alright to have non ammarians, or for a true amarr corp do I need only amarrians >.>
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: BloodBird on 22 May 2012, 00:45
Oh, I never meant to imply slave characters (capsuleers) were on the table o.o I'm sorry if I did.  I simply meant what is the view of a converted Caldari/Gallente/....Minmatar? in the eyes of a Amarrian, are they granted citizenship if they want it?  Would it be alright to have non ammarians, or for a true amarr corp do I need only amarrians >.>

That depends completely on you and how liberal you are. PIE is, for example, an Amarr-only corp, and that works for them. Last I saw KOTMC they accepted anyone that fit their criteria for joining. That criteria is again completely up to you - will your organization allow non-Amarr eggers to join you and be helpful so long as they put up with your rules and methods, or not? Are there any limitations to non-Amarr toons, like no access to wallet, or required non-game-mechanic penalties (your mentioned sermons, for instance) or not?

Depending on if you want your corp to be loyal to the Empire or no, and to what extent etc. this all depends as well.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 22 May 2012, 11:05
Hmmm as long as they accept the faith, they'll be in methinks.  Which, for the federation friend who posted about under the table offers, could be a work in point :D
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: orange on 22 May 2012, 11:07
Oh, I never meant to imply slave characters (capsuleers) were on the table o.o I'm sorry if I did.  I simply meant what is the view of a converted Caldari/Gallente/....Minmatar? in the eyes of a Amarrian, are they granted citizenship if they want it?  Would it be alright to have non ammarians, or for a true amarr corp do I need only amarrians >.>

I wouldn't think anyone in the Amarr Empire is a citizen, but everyone is a subject of the Empire.*  Non-Amarrian subjects & converts might be treated with suspicion, especially if they are the first generation to be of the Amarrian faith.

*The Republic & Federation have citizens, the State is filled with employees and denizens.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Karmilla Strife on 22 May 2012, 11:37
I'm interested! I've been trying to get back into industrial work but things slowed down when my business partners all left the game. Amarr RP without FW or CVA is a plus for me as well. I'll get in touch in game!
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Chell Charon on 22 May 2012, 12:10
Supported. Whether thats a good or a bad thing IC..
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 22 May 2012, 12:53
Well I just got in corp, setting things up and all that now, so if you want in at the ground floor, feel free to apply :)

Lets make it work!  For the Empire!
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 22 May 2012, 13:18
So just to be clear, you are setting up as an obviously Amarrian-loyal corporation with ships full of juicy goodies?  :twisted:
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 22 May 2012, 13:33
200k ehp Orca, catch me if you can  8)
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Tiberious Thessalonia on 22 May 2012, 14:23
Hehe, okay.

Nah, just kidding (maybe).  Good luck with your corp!
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 22 May 2012, 14:32
:) thanks, and yeah I was prepared to be bombarded heavily :( Now to await stasis to end on my joining members, and to set up the industry.  Heres looking forward to working with you all.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Esna Pitoojee on 22 May 2012, 19:07
Adding another voice to the mix - will be good to have another solid loyalist about, and of course looking forward to seeing your industrial success!
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 22 May 2012, 21:19
Actually may be putting a stop to this before I begin.

Another corporation, Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment, seems to already exist, with a established memberbase with the exact same objectives I have.

Can anyone speak for their character, or that they know of them?
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: orange on 22 May 2012, 21:35
Actually may be putting a stop to this before I begin.

Another corporation, Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment, seems to already exist, with a established memberbase with the exact same objectives I have.

Can anyone speak for their character, or that they know of them?

There are lots of things to do industrial, they may have one niche and you could attempt to capture another.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 22 May 2012, 22:09
True... they are in a alliance, maybe attempt to join that?
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Safai on 22 May 2012, 22:41
Not necessarily. By the looks of it the alliance itself is not an Amarr loyalist group. The writeup in your OP has good things going for it, my suggestion is to keep working what you have and see how you develop as your own entity.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Ran Shad on 24 May 2012, 11:30
===FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE===

DOMAIN REGION –

The management of Khanid Solutions and the Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment are pleased to announce the acquisition of K-S0L by IMER. All agree that a corporate merger is the best way to serve the Empresses Holy Warriors and ensure they are equipped with the most advanced ships and equipment available.

IMER has offered for employment packages to all K-SOL personnel and are looking forward to welcoming the new members to IMER.

All personnel interested in joining should contact the Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment either via neocom message or by dropping by our virtual offices located at IMER-Pub .

IMER is an established Amarrian manufacturing and mission corporation.
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Silas Vitalia on 24 May 2012, 12:09
Get that out on IGS
Title: Re: Guaging Interest: NOt sure if right place :( Amarr Indy Corp
Post by: Loriarti on 28 May 2012, 15:52
I'd like to apologize for abandoning this thread, everyone interested in a corp like this I strongly advertise looking at IMER (Imperial Manufacturing and Engineering Regiment) they're a great group of guys.

Some old friends of mine asked me to return to nullsec, and I was convinced to return, so perhaps one day when I return! :(