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General Discussion => The Speakeasy: OOG/Off-topic Discussion => Topic started by: Invelious on 24 Nov 2011, 11:42
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114353-Bigpoint-Makes-Big-Bucks-Off-1300-MMO-Item
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The most pathetic among us will ruin every nice thing. :bash:
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Free to play is the future, boys. Let us all embrace it now!
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And I thought spending $250 on my artwork was a lot...
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That's 2.6M dollars...
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2M euros / 2.6M dollars in four days.
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:wut: :brilliant:
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Basically their "Ed" in R&D was like, "can we pump out those drones to the players for sale?" And 1 hour later "Bob" the manager was like $$$
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Cripes...
I honestly don't know how to respond to this.
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Cripes...
I honestly don't know how to respond to this.
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2454/1322028321991.jpg)
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Thats Pay-to-Win stuff, you do know the difference.
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Thats Pay-to-Win stuff, you do know the difference.
Fair enough, its still $1300, your not winning buy paying $1300 for pixels.
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How much have you been paying for playing EVE?
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How much have you been paying for playing EVE?
I've paid 100 norwegian crowns every month for the last 6 years atl, and that's only one account. I've 4 atm and have held 2 for at least 5 years. That's 7200 for one account, and 6000 for another, the last 2 have each existed for the last year at least, paid every month, that's 1200 per account, and all that's 15600 at the very least. Translate that into dollars or euro's if you want and then tell me how much 'cheaper' this pixelated item might be.
I'm not unhappy over the amount of money CCP has gotten from me over the years because I consider it to be money well-spent. I AM unhappy about the monocles and other crap in the NEX store becasue it's alot of money for... entierly worthless items. Even if they had value, like ship-enhancements etc. it still would not measure up to allowing me to play the game itself. And this item here is in the exact same line. An entierly value-less item the makers are asking an absurd amount of RL cash for. There is no point in trying to argue that paying for one's subscription is expensive over the years just as these items are, subscriptions serve an entierly different purpose and function.
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I expect I've spent somewhere in the rough vicinity of 650$ on my EVE account payment, plus another 115$ on 3 ETCs at various times...
Yeah, I've spent less than 2/3 of the cost of ONE of these items, over four years, and I generally consider this to be money well spent.
Which brings up my next question - what would happen if "Dark Orbit" had EVE-style griefers? I mean people who would get together and expend huge amounts of their own resources simply to off these shiny combat drones to produce massive tears from their owners? I don't even know if you can do this in "Dark Orbit", but I presume not or they wouldn't dare sell something so valuable if it could be lost to a bunch of bored people intent on making your life miserable.
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The world is full of items that are worthless to some valuable to others; just because its a digital product doesn't mean It's worthless if the customer gets some use from it. That said, the philosophy that power can be bought in a game is a contentious matter amongst gamers and their perception of 'fair play' in PvP environments. For me personally, I'd have to be pretty committed to a game to spend THAT much hard coin for pay to play items.
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An MMO has been my escape from the reality of my life, where I am poor as dirt. I can sit at the computer and play the game, and meet the other people in the game on "even terms" so to speak.
I cannot afford the real money things, so I suppose MMOs are just another thing I am soon to be too poor to enjoy. Isnt that awesome?
I mean, why play the game to earn some advantage, when you can just BUY IT? Right??
:roll:
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An MMO has been my escape from the reality of my life, where I am poor as dirt. I can sit at the computer and play the game, and meet the other people in the game on "even terms" so to speak.
I cannot afford the real money things, so I suppose MMOs are just another thing I am soon to be too poor to enjoy. Isnt that awesome?
I mean, why play the game to earn some advantage, when you can just BUY IT? Right??
:roll:
Here's the thing. I'm not exactly poor as dirt but I too play mmos to get away from bullshit consumerism and greed culture. Its good fun to play in an environment where everyone is effectively coming from an even start and plays on their talents. For me the suspension of disbelief erodes rapidly when people are leveraging their real-world income to gain a game advantage. I mean why the fuck would I feel like doing that too? I'll just go out for a nice meal instead.
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Exactly. Game designers should be spending a lot of time thinking about that and not just following the dictates of avarice and taking the chance to go for moneyz with the new shiny. There are places where this kind of thing fits, but in others it is destructive to the spirit of gaming.
Otherwise we're gonna need a Occupy Virtual Space real soon.
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Exactly. Game designers should be spending a lot of time thinking about that and not just following the dictates of avarice and taking the chance to go for moneyz with the new shiny. There are places where this kind of thing fits, but in others it is destructive to the spirit of gaming.
Otherwise we're gonna need a Occupy Virtual Space real soon.
Of course, given the average MMO gamers' capacity for irony, those Occupations will be in Subscription-based MMOs, paying the devs for their protest.
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Exactly. Game designers should be spending a lot of time thinking about that and not just following the dictates of avarice and taking the chance to go for moneyz with the new shiny. There are places where this kind of thing fits, but in others it is destructive to the spirit of gaming.
Otherwise we're gonna need a Occupy Virtual Space real soon.
Wouldn't have this been exactly what the Jita/market hub protests were? "Even if it's profitable - fuck that shit. We're paying our subscriptions for you to invent good gameplay, not just cash in on the FOTM for making cash on the internets, and even if we can't stop it instantly we're damn well going to make it clear we're displeased" ?