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Title: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Invelious on 03 Jun 2011, 15:21
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2011/06/03/pol-senate-page.html

Props girl, mad props.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Crucifire on 03 Jun 2011, 15:55
Props indeed. Shame it cost the poor girl her job, possibly her career in politics altogether, but I can't say I disagree with her sentiment and motive.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Ken on 03 Jun 2011, 16:01
Wait, there's a throne?
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Matariki Rain on 03 Jun 2011, 16:09
Wait, there's a throne?

Standard convention in the Commonwealth countries which are still constitutional monarchies. How else would you do it?
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Post by: Casiella on 03 Jun 2011, 17:34
Props indeed. Shame it cost the poor girl her job, possibly her career in politics altogether, but I can't say I disagree with her sentiment and motive.

I suspect that she'll find a way. ;) And while I won't pretend to understand Canadian politics, I assume that someone in the anti-Harper camp will be interested in working with her.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Crucifire on 03 Jun 2011, 17:42
Possibly. I can't pretend to understand too much about Canadian politics either (why oh why did I never pay attention in socials class) but Elizabeth May, leader of the Green Party, said the protest was inappropriate and in the wrong place according to the article, and Green Party is way on the other side of the fence from Harper's Conservative Party.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: orange on 03 Jun 2011, 17:56
Quote from: Winston Churchill
Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen.

Quote from: Benjamin Franklin
When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: DA5UN on 03 Jun 2011, 18:46
Possibly. I can't pretend to understand too much about Canadian politics either (why oh why did I never pay attention in socials class) but Elizabeth May, leader of the Green Party, said the protest was inappropriate and in the wrong place according to the article, and Green Party is way on the other side of the fence from Harper's Conservative Party.

They likely went to her expecting a comment commending the girl, as you say the Green Party is opposite the political spectrum of Harper. Though the Senate Chamber has a very strict behavioral policy and not to mention interrupting the Gov. General's speech is quite rude (seeing as how he is the representative of the Queen to Canada.)

Lot's of courage with the girl though.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Bacchanalian on 03 Jun 2011, 22:35
Meh.  That will change absolutely nothing.  Getting experience in politics and working her way up the ladder in the political scene over the course of a few years while she learns how to really have an impact would have.

Call me a cynic, but I think she's a fool and too starry-eyed to see it.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Invelious on 03 Jun 2011, 23:49
Meh.  That will change absolutely nothing.  Getting experience in politics and working her way up the ladder in the political scene over the course of a few years while she learns how to really have an impact would have.

Call me a cynic, but I think she's a fool and too starry-eyed to see it.

Or now she has the attention of the entire country, she spread her message and further exposed our fail prime minister. She has a legion of youth and adults now all supporting her, and for simply raising a sign she has been the national story of the media in this country. The political party whom she shares the same views with will no doubt be supporting her and a job opportunity will no doubt present itself. 

She has also gone down in Canadian history as the first and only political protester to official protest within our House of Commons, in the face of every member of parliament, senator, all 6 justices of the peace, the governor general and of course, the prime minister.

Her objective was set, and achieved.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Bacchanalian on 04 Jun 2011, 01:31
She'll be forgotten in three weeks.
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Post by: Akrasjel Lanate on 04 Jun 2011, 07:51
Props indeed. Shame it cost the poor girl her job, possibly her career in politics altogether, but I can't say I disagree with her sentiment and motive.

Oh really
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Cain Jacobi on 04 Jun 2011, 20:52
Mad props to this girl for standing up for what she believes in.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Chowda on 06 Jun 2011, 04:36
Awwww, the girl believes money grows on trees to pay for free lunches and can't understand why there has to be cuts.

How cute.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Lyn Farel on 06 Jun 2011, 13:08
Probably out of ignorance but, her protest was about money cuts ?
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Z.Sinraali on 06 Jun 2011, 13:30
Awwww, the girl believes money grows on trees to pay for free lunches and can't understand why there has to be cuts.

How cute.

Because government actions are totally deterministic, and definitely not a result of elite and popular preference structures as filtered through the electoral and policy-making processes. No sir. The only things that can happen in government are those that must happen.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Shal Novastorm on 07 Jun 2011, 21:43
Awwww, the girl believes money grows on trees to pay for free lunches and can't understand why there has to be cuts.

How cute.

Yea doesn't she know that money is needed to blow up browns and allow for massive tax breaks for the upper class? Silly girl thinks the government should feed the hungry.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: orange on 08 Jun 2011, 07:43
I am going to throw it out there that any further discussion of politics is going to result in violations of the forums rules.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Invelious on 08 Jun 2011, 08:01
I am going to throw it out there that any further discussion of politics is going to result in violations of the forums rules.

Politics at times, brings out the worst in some people.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Crucifire on 08 Jun 2011, 15:59
Awwww, the girl believes money grows on trees to pay for free lunches and can't understand why there has to be cuts.

How cute.

Yea doesn't she know that money is needed to blow up browns and allow for massive tax breaks for the upper class? Silly girl thinks the government should feed the hungry.
P.much nailed it.
Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: orange on 08 Jun 2011, 17:42
Sarcasm in a political conversation, over the internet, is likely to only lead to flames.  It will likely lead to stereotyping each other as being "liberal" or "conservative."  But where someone lands on the political spectrum can vary with the topic.   The quick remarks are not going to change anyone's political opinion, they will only serve to alienate them.

Simply put, we are not going to agree on the purpose or structure of governments.

Title: Re: Democracy at its Finest.
Post by: Casiella on 08 Jun 2011, 19:20
Actually, we've had civil, courteous discussions on political differences (http://backstage.eve-inspiracy.com/index.php?topic=270.0).

It is possible, after all, TV news to the contrary.