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Title: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Ember Vykos on 11 Apr 2011, 06:30
So, as a few of you may know, and most of you probably dont, I left EVE a month or two ago. Ive already been bitten by the bug again, and even with finals coming up and perhaps more importantly Dragon Age 2 sitting in my PS3 at home I am wanting to come back. I figure initially I probably wont be able to play much, but this would be the perfect time to start station training all the base skills while I beat DA2 and hopefully pass my classes.

My reason for posting is to get some ideas on what you guys(and gals) think is missing in EVE RP. I still havent really decided on what I want to base this character on or even what race I want to be yet. So gimme all the missing stereotypes, character types, and underrepresented factions in your eyes, and maybe some of them will open my eyes and give me a few more ideas to draw from when I sit down and start working on my character. :D
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Casiella on 11 Apr 2011, 07:08
Can I ask first whether you intend to focus on in-space combat or something else?
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Ember Vykos on 11 Apr 2011, 07:21
Heh. Good question and I totally forgot to mention that. Ideally I will probably be focusing on combat of some sort. Might try being more of a political figure as well so its kinda open really, but I do have to have my PVP in there somewhere. :D
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Casiella on 11 Apr 2011, 07:30
Well, I know you did the Angel thing. If you're looking to go back to that, of course, I'm sure the options still exist.

But perhaps something a little softer might work, or even sneakier... maybe associated with, say, an intelligence service. You could also eschew NPC factions and work out something more mercenary-based with a bit of RP around it.

Most of my thoughts tend away from the combat stuff for obvious reasons, so I'll just shut up now. But I am happy to see you "back"!
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Marcus Gord on 11 Apr 2011, 07:37
My reason for posting is to get some ideas on what you guys(and gals) think is missing in EVE RP.

Well, there was this pretty awesome female Civire in my alliance a couple of months back.... :lol:

But on a serious note, I'm not exactly sure what's missing, or if anything is missing. People seem to be representing each faction, the difference is in how they do it. There's only the one Caldari Liberal bloc entity, though, as far as I know? I-RED is nullsec and stuff though, from what I know. There might be something in there for a more empire based deal?

Not so sure about Character, though. How many hard line Liberal ex-navy Achur are there?  :s That's something I'd need to think about more.

EDIT: The 'did you know' thing gave me an idea. How many Hyasoda capsuleer corps have there been?
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Amann Karris on 11 Apr 2011, 07:51
Pro-CONCORD anti-drug task force.  I'm also not saying this simply because I am writing a rather long-ish short story about this particular topic.  Seriously, I'm not.

Stop looking at me like that!
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Casiella on 11 Apr 2011, 08:10
That sounds so... legit. That's ungood.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Amann Karris on 11 Apr 2011, 08:23
That sounds so... legit. That's ungood.
This is EVE.  Is anyone truly good?
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Marcus Gord on 11 Apr 2011, 08:29
Given the changes they say they're making to smuggling, that could actually work!
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Amann Karris on 11 Apr 2011, 08:33
Given the changes they say they're making to smuggling, that could actually work!
If it's half as interesting as I see in my mind, it could be epic.  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Hamish Grayson on 11 Apr 2011, 08:38
There hasn't been a decent sized Mordu's Legion corp around in a long while.   To me, Mordu's seems like an awesome source of RP for a PVP corp that would allow for a broader involvement in politics since they aren't a Caldari State aligned megacorp per se.   They work mostly for the Caldari yes, and get goodies and stuff from the Caldari Navy but they also do work for the other factions as well - even the Federation.  
 
Also while they are generally viewed as ‘the good guys’ by most people and probably try to be, we can see from missions (do you still see the legion in missions?) that more often than not when a faction hires the Legion it’s because they need some dirty work done.  So they offer grey area RP.

There are also a lot of options available to a Mordu’s group.   Faction Warfare is obvious: as you move through the StaPro ranks your Legion standing sky rockets though I think this might have more to do with State standings than StaPro standings.  They have very close ties to the Caldari Nav and their partner is listed as Home Guard, but there is nothing that indicates they care much for Heth.   This allows you to do the State loyalist thing without being a goose stepping lolspacenazi.  

If you run missions for them, they go after Guristas a lot and if you run for the Guristas they go after the Legion a lot and they also recruit from all races and creeds, so you wouldn’t be limited at all to who you accept.  You could become the anti-veto sucking up RPers with no other place to go :P

Alternatively, if you are not interested in FW - their contract the Intaki means you could set up as anti-pirates in Syndicate and Placid.  

You could go the straight up Merc route too.  Wormholes have actually opened up the merc business recently.  Most WH corps are rich carebears and that makes them targets for extortionist and great clients for Mercs.

Noir. runs a channel to help up and coming Mercs to find clients and if your kill stats are good enough they’ll take your corp into their alliance.

If you want to do 0.0 they have a Station in Pure Blind which is a VERY target rich environment right now.    Carebear NC pilots with faction gear as far as the eye can see.   There is an Alliance that lives in the Mordu’s station called Mordu’s Angels – cool dudes but they haven’t RPed since 2005 as far as I know.  It wouldn’t be hard to get blue with them if you are willing to shoot at NC and know a little about PVP.    They are recruiting corps right now too, and would be RP friendly.

Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Kybernetes Moros on 11 Apr 2011, 10:19
Pro-CONCORD anti-drug task force.  I'm also not saying this simply because I am writing a rather long-ish short story about this particular topic.  Seriously, I'm not.

Stop looking at me like that!

A staunchly pro-CONCORD anything would be pretty interesting, I think; from what I've seen (which could very easily miss something out and invalidate this point entirely), the opinions of CONCORD range from 'must be removed' to 'eh, not so bad' amongst capsuleers.

Where characters don't mind CONCORD so much, it seems to often be incidental to another cause -- CONCORD helps their empire of choice, or similar. Seeing someone that throws themselves pretty solidly behind CONCORD, rather than any distinct empire, would be quite cool to see, at least for me.

I'm not sure if this would get in the way of the combat you mentioned or not. On the one hand, you have the Global Criminal Countdowns for engaging the 'wrong' folks being just that, which could get in the way of having had the character throw their lot in with CONCORD; on the other, there are a lot of outlaws kicking about, you've the aforementioned smuggling changes, and wardecs if you're into that kinda thing.

Hamish's points about Mordu's Legion are also a good bunch; seeing more of the Legion would be pretty nice.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Marcus Gord on 11 Apr 2011, 10:56
I actually looked for a Mordus corp a while ago, but didn't find anything. It would be interesting for sure. (I might even join a character to it if you let me, and help out....)
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Ember Vykos on 11 Apr 2011, 14:06
Well, there was this pretty awesome female Civire in my alliance a couple of months back.... :lol:



Thanks Marcus. I doubt I'll bring Ember back, but maybe another awesome female Civire.  :D

Also what was the name of the drink I have to get when I come back into the Skyhook? I forgot the name of it and I cant find it in my logs.  :(

Mordu's Legion

That is a good idea. I had totally forgot about them, but it sounds really interesting, might have to look them up in evelopedia.  :D
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Ulphus on 11 Apr 2011, 14:27
My reason for posting is to get some ideas on what you guys(and gals) think is missing in EVE RP.

I think there needs to be more "normal" people. One of the things that happens in RPG like this is that lots of people want to play the edge cases; the pirates, the rogue drones, the terrorists etc. I suspect that if you polled all the RPers in Eve and did a demographic analysis that they would be a lot different to what the general population is like.

That's why I encourage you to create a mainstream character. Someone who follows the precepts of their society as best they can in a pod, to give the outliers a version of normal(ish) to contrast with. A straight guy, if you will, to their oddballs.

You asked :)
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Hamish Grayson on 11 Apr 2011, 14:38
That is a good idea.

I know.  I rock.  It's a gift.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Kaleigh Doyle on 11 Apr 2011, 14:47
Be a self-employed, independent capsuleer who isn't helplessly bound to a faction, can think for themselves, isn't a racist, that has personal goals.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Hamish Grayson on 11 Apr 2011, 14:49
Be a self-employed, independent capsuleer who isn't helplessly bound to a faction, can think for themselves, isn't a racist, that has personal goals.

What would we call these free captains? 
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Casiella on 11 Apr 2011, 14:50
I've done that before, and I'm sort of doing part of that now. (Not completely self-employed.)

It leads to some fascinating interactions about things other than IGS rehashes.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Kaleigh Doyle on 11 Apr 2011, 14:50
Be a self-employed, independent capsuleer who isn't helplessly bound to a faction, can think for themselves, isn't a racist, that has personal goals.

What would we call these free captains? 

How about 'pilots'?

And you don't have to be self-employed either. I meant, not being intrinsically bound to some megacorporation or npc entity, not necessarily in your own capsuleer corporation.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Marcus Gord on 11 Apr 2011, 16:01
Well, there was this pretty awesome female Civire in my alliance a couple of months back.... :lol:



Thanks Marcus. I doubt I'll bring Ember back, but maybe another awesome female Civire.  :D

Also what was the name of the drink I have to get when I come back into the Skyhook? I forgot the name of it and I cant find it in my logs.  :(


Zydrine Burn  ;)
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Horatius Caul on 12 Apr 2011, 09:04
The SoCT!

And I don't say that just because I'm trying to start something up... no, wait, that's exactly why I say that.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Lyn Farel on 12 Apr 2011, 15:18
The SoCT!

And I don't say that just because I'm trying to start something up... no, wait, that's exactly why I say that.


Seriously ?
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Horatius Caul on 13 Apr 2011, 00:09
The SoCT!

And I don't say that just because I'm trying to start something up... no, wait, that's exactly why I say that.


Seriously ?
Srsly.

Throw me an evemail or three if you're interested.

EDIT: or PM here on the forum. I'll probably respond quicker to that.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Chowda on 14 Apr 2011, 16:39
There are also a lot of options available to a Mordu’s group.   Faction Warfare is obvious: as you move through the StaPro ranks your Legion standing sky rockets though I think this might have more to do with State standings than StaPro standings.  
You get a major bump every promotion.  I'm not sure if it was just based on my faction standing at the time and skills, but my last few promotions got me a 0.5 increase in raw faction standing.  And for some reason, The State seems to like ML more than it like The State. :)

In my opinion, it is a good in-game angle, in or out of State Pro.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Ember Vykos on 15 Apr 2011, 18:48
Thanks for all the replies guys. I think Ive settled on the Mordu's Legion angle. Initially I'm probably just gonna use it as character background since I have no idea how to run a corp much less a mercenary one, but we'll see how it goes.
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Mathra Hiede on 16 Apr 2011, 02:51
Damn - and here I was hoping to poach you into the Khanid areas >_> again <_<

Hope you enjoy what you have chosen/chose
Title: Re: Suggestions and whats lacking.
Post by: Ember Vykos on 16 Apr 2011, 13:31
Damn - and here I was hoping to poach you into the Khanid areas >_> again <_<

That's your baby Math, and I wish you all the best with it. :D I did think about it for a bit, but the Caldari related stuff has always been my favorite.

Hope you enjoy what you have chosen/chose

Thanks. Hope you do too. ;)